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Frank Erskine September 29th 07 08:43 AM

Wiring query
 
On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 08:36:10 -0700, "cerberus"
wrote:

I'm in the process of wiring some some new ceiling light fittings & have
found the following configuration;

(a) = 3 reds twisted together

(b) = 2 Blacks twisted together

(c) = 1 black (marked with red tape

(d) = Earth

I assume that (b) is the 'loop termination' & only (a) (c) & (d) are used in
the fitting?

No. The three reds "twisted" together will be live in, live out, and
switch feed. The blacks twisted together will be neutral in and
neutral out.
You therefore want to use (b)(Neutral), (c)(Switched Live) and of
course (d)Earth.

HTH -

--
Frank Erskine

Andy Cap September 29th 07 08:46 AM

Wiring query
 
On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 08:36:10 -0700, "cerberus"
wrote:

I'm in the process of wiring some some new ceiling light fittings & have
found the following configuration;

(a) = 3 reds twisted together

(b) = 2 Blacks twisted together

(c) = 1 black (marked with red tape

(d) = Earth

I assume that (b) is the 'loop termination' & only (a) (c) & (d) are used in
the fitting?

Don.



No. The two blacks and the red tagged black, or switched live.

The three reds are just a live common point.

Andy

Alan September 29th 07 09:14 AM

Wiring query
 
In message , cerberus
wrote
I'm in the process of wiring some some new ceiling light fittings & have
found the following configuration;

(a) = 3 reds twisted together

(b) = 2 Blacks twisted together

(c) = 1 black (marked with red tape

(d) = Earth

I assume that (b) is the 'loop termination' & only (a) (c) & (d) are used in
the fitting?


http://www.diydata.com/planning/electric_lights/electric_lights.php

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Alan
news2006 {at} amac {dot} f2s {dot} com

The Medway Handyman September 29th 07 10:53 AM

Wiring query
 
cerberus wrote:
"Andy Cap" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 08:36:10 -0700, "cerberus"

wrote:

I'm in the process of wiring some some new ceiling light fittings &
have found the following configuration;

(a) = 3 reds twisted together

(b) = 2 Blacks twisted together

(c) = 1 black (marked with red tape

(d) = Earth

I assume that (b) is the 'loop termination' & only (a) (c) & (d)
are used in
the fitting?

Don.



No. The two blacks and the red tagged black, or switched live.

The three reds are just a live common point.

Andy


Cheers Frank & Andy.

The adage 'measure twice cut once' springs to mind ;-)


Don't tell too many people - changing light fittings is good business!
SWMBO buys new light fitting, husband unscrews ceiling rose, sees all those
wire & panics!


--
Dave
The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk
01634 717930
07850 597257



Vass[_2_] September 29th 07 11:52 AM

Wiring query
 

"cerberus" wrote in message
. uk...
I'm in the process of wiring some some new ceiling light fittings & have
found the following configuration;


Your clocks wrong on your PC
hth
--
Vass



Bob Eager September 29th 07 11:54 AM

Wiring query
 
On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 10:52:38 UTC, "Vass"
wrote:


"cerberus" wrote in message
. uk...
I'm in the process of wiring some some new ceiling light fittings & have
found the following configuration;


Your clocks wrong on your PC


His clock is fine. His time zone is wrong.

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Vass[_2_] September 29th 07 12:17 PM

Wiring query
 

"Bob Eager" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 10:52:38 UTC, "Vass"
wrote:


"cerberus" wrote in message
. uk...
I'm in the process of wiring some some new ceiling light fittings &
have
found the following configuration;


Your clocks wrong on your PC


His clock is fine. His time zone is wrong.

ah ok



Andy Cap September 29th 07 01:17 PM

Wiring query
 
On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 13:11:38 -0700, "cerberus"
wrote:


"Vass" wrote in message
...

"cerberus" wrote in message
. uk...
I'm in the process of wiring some some new ceiling light fittings & have
found the following configuration;


Your clocks wrong on your PC
hth
--
Vass


Nope time & date correct, but it is showing everyone else as 11 hrs behind
for some reason?

Don.


Must be us then ! ;-)

Andy



SJP September 29th 07 04:13 PM

Wiring query
 

"cerberus" wrote in message
...

"Andy Cap" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 13:11:38 -0700, "cerberus"

wrote:


"Vass" wrote in message
...

"cerberus" wrote in message
. uk...
I'm in the process of wiring some some new ceiling light fittings &
have
found the following configuration;

Your clocks wrong on your PC
hth
--
Vass


Nope time & date correct, but it is showing everyone else as 11 hrs
behind
for some reason?

Don.


Must be us then ! ;-)

Andy



Just checked, Bob was spot on. Grandaughter's been twiddling again!

But you've still not corrected it



cerberus[_2_] September 29th 07 04:36 PM

Wiring query
 
I'm in the process of wiring some some new ceiling light fittings & have
found the following configuration;

(a) = 3 reds twisted together

(b) = 2 Blacks twisted together

(c) = 1 black (marked with red tape

(d) = Earth

I assume that (b) is the 'loop termination' & only (a) (c) & (d) are used in
the fitting?

Don.



cerberus[_2_] September 29th 07 04:58 PM

Wiring query
 

"Andy Cap" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 08:36:10 -0700, "cerberus"

wrote:

I'm in the process of wiring some some new ceiling light fittings & have
found the following configuration;

(a) = 3 reds twisted together

(b) = 2 Blacks twisted together

(c) = 1 black (marked with red tape

(d) = Earth

I assume that (b) is the 'loop termination' & only (a) (c) & (d) are used
in
the fitting?

Don.



No. The two blacks and the red tagged black, or switched live.

The three reds are just a live common point.

Andy


Cheers Frank & Andy.

The adage 'measure twice cut once' springs to mind ;-)

Don.



cerberus[_2_] September 29th 07 07:02 PM

Wiring query
 

"The Medway Handyman" wrote in message
...
cerberus wrote:
"Andy Cap" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 08:36:10 -0700, "cerberus"

wrote:

I'm in the process of wiring some some new ceiling light fittings &
have found the following configuration;

(a) = 3 reds twisted together

(b) = 2 Blacks twisted together

(c) = 1 black (marked with red tape

(d) = Earth

I assume that (b) is the 'loop termination' & only (a) (c) & (d)
are used in
the fitting?

Don.



No. The two blacks and the red tagged black, or switched live.

The three reds are just a live common point.

Andy


Cheers Frank & Andy.

The adage 'measure twice cut once' springs to mind ;-)


Don't tell too many people - changing light fittings is good business!
SWMBO buys new light fitting, husband unscrews ceiling rose, sees all
those wire & panics!


--
Dave
The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk
01634 717930
07850 597257


'Her indoors' is a happy bunny now she can play with her new halogens ;-)

Don.



cerberus[_2_] September 29th 07 07:21 PM

Wiring query
 

"SJP" wrote in message
...

"cerberus" wrote in message
...

"Andy Cap" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 13:11:38 -0700, "cerberus"

wrote:


"Vass" wrote in message
...

"cerberus" wrote in message
. uk...
I'm in the process of wiring some some new ceiling light fittings &
have
found the following configuration;

Your clocks wrong on your PC
hth
--
Vass


Nope time & date correct, but it is showing everyone else as 11 hrs
behind
for some reason?

Don.


Must be us then ! ;-)

Andy



Just checked, Bob was spot on. Grandaughter's been twiddling again!

But you've still not corrected it


Oh yes I have.

Don.



Ed Sirett September 29th 07 07:55 PM

Wiring query
 
On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 10:53:34 +0100, The Medway Handyman wrote:

cerberus wrote:
"Andy Cap" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 08:36:10 -0700, "cerberus"

wrote:

I'm in the process of wiring some some new ceiling light fittings &
have found the following configuration;

(a) = 3 reds twisted together

(b) = 2 Blacks twisted together

(c) = 1 black (marked with red tape

(d) = Earth

I assume that (b) is the 'loop termination' & only (a) (c) & (d)
are used in
the fitting?

Don.



No. The two blacks and the red tagged black, or switched live.

The three reds are just a live common point.

Andy


Cheers Frank & Andy.

The adage 'measure twice cut once' springs to mind ;-)


Don't tell too many people - changing light fittings is good business!
SWMBO buys new light fitting, husband unscrews ceiling rose, sees all those
wire & panics!

Indeed so. And the variation where husband/'friend'/'someone my mother
knows'/'odd jobs bloke' puts all the reds together, all the blacks, and
connects those to the new fitting....




--
Ed Sirett - Property maintainer and registered gas fitter.
The FAQ for uk.diy is at http://www.diyfaq.org.uk
Gas fitting FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/GasFitting.html
Sealed CH FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/SealedCH.html
Choosing a Boiler FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/BoilerChoice.html

Steve[_4_] September 29th 07 08:21 PM

Wiring query
 
Ed Sirett wrote:
On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 10:53:34 +0100, The Medway Handyman wrote:

cerberus wrote:
"Andy Cap" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 08:36:10 -0700, "cerberus"

wrote:

I'm in the process of wiring some some new ceiling light fittings &
have found the following configuration;

(a) = 3 reds twisted together

(b) = 2 Blacks twisted together

(c) = 1 black (marked with red tape

(d) = Earth

I assume that (b) is the 'loop termination' & only (a) (c) & (d)
are used in
the fitting?

Don.


No. The two blacks and the red tagged black, or switched live.

The three reds are just a live common point.

Andy
Cheers Frank & Andy.

The adage 'measure twice cut once' springs to mind ;-)

Don't tell too many people - changing light fittings is good business!
SWMBO buys new light fitting, husband unscrews ceiling rose, sees all those
wire & panics!

Indeed so. And the variation where husband/'friend'/'someone my mother
knows'/'odd jobs bloke' puts all the reds together, all the blacks, and
connects those to the new fitting....




LOL... mind you it is nice when attractive housewife considers you to be
a wizard for sorting it out after hubby gave up!

Lighting circuits must cause more confusion than any other electrical
problem for the wannabe diy'er !

Steve

cerberus[_2_] September 29th 07 09:11 PM

Wiring query
 

"Vass" wrote in message
...

"cerberus" wrote in message
. uk...
I'm in the process of wiring some some new ceiling light fittings & have
found the following configuration;


Your clocks wrong on your PC
hth
--
Vass


Nope time & date correct, but it is showing everyone else as 11 hrs behind
for some reason?

Don.



cerberus[_2_] September 29th 07 09:21 PM

Wiring query
 

"Andy Cap" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 13:11:38 -0700, "cerberus"

wrote:


"Vass" wrote in message
...

"cerberus" wrote in message
. uk...
I'm in the process of wiring some some new ceiling light fittings &
have
found the following configuration;

Your clocks wrong on your PC
hth
--
Vass


Nope time & date correct, but it is showing everyone else as 11 hrs behind
for some reason?

Don.


Must be us then ! ;-)

Andy



Just checked, Bob was spot on. Grandaughter's been twiddling again!

Don.



[email protected] September 30th 07 12:07 AM

Wiring query
 
cerberus wrote:
I'm in the process of wiring some some new ceiling light fittings & have
found the following configuration;

(a) = 3 reds twisted together

(b) = 2 Blacks twisted together

(c) = 1 black (marked with red tape

(d) = Earth

I assume that (b) is the 'loop termination' & only (a) (c) & (d) are used in
the fitting?

Don.


Need a wiki article on this, Anyone wantt o move their explanation
there?
http://www.wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index....ecial:Allpages


NT


Ed Sirett September 30th 07 06:37 PM

Wiring query
 
On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 19:21:09 +0000, Steve wrote:

Ed Sirett wrote:
On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 10:53:34 +0100, The Medway Handyman wrote:

cerberus wrote:
"Andy Cap" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 08:36:10 -0700, "cerberus"

wrote:

I'm in the process of wiring some some new ceiling light fittings &
have found the following configuration;

(a) = 3 reds twisted together

(b) = 2 Blacks twisted together

(c) = 1 black (marked with red tape

(d) = Earth

I assume that (b) is the 'loop termination' & only (a) (c) & (d)
are used in
the fitting?

Don.


No. The two blacks and the red tagged black, or switched live.

The three reds are just a live common point.

Andy
Cheers Frank & Andy.

The adage 'measure twice cut once' springs to mind ;-)
Don't tell too many people - changing light fittings is good business!
SWMBO buys new light fitting, husband unscrews ceiling rose, sees all those
wire & panics!

Indeed so. And the variation where husband/'friend'/'someone my mother
knows'/'odd jobs bloke' puts all the reds together, all the blacks, and
connects those to the new fitting....




LOL... mind you it is nice when attractive housewife considers you to be
a wizard for sorting it out after hubby gave up!

Lighting circuits must cause more confusion than any other electrical
problem for the wannabe diy'er !

Yes. Often you find that people will have a go at lighting but bottle out
on socket replacement due to the higher rating!


--
Ed Sirett - Property maintainer and registered gas fitter.
The FAQ for uk.diy is at http://www.diyfaq.org.uk
Gas fitting FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/GasFitting.html
Sealed CH FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/SealedCH.html
Choosing a Boiler FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/BoilerChoice.html


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