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Dark Angel[_2_] September 5th 07 10:32 PM

Cats and gravel
 
OK, i recently gravelled a section of my front yard using 10mm pea gravel,
and since then every cat in the neighbourhood has been using it as its
personal litter tray.

I was wondering, would putting down 20mm gravel in its place solve the
problem? As its larger they cant paw it over so well.

Anyone had any experience with this?


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nightjar September 6th 07 01:50 AM

Cats and gravel
 

"Dark Angel" wrote in message
...
OK, i recently gravelled a section of my front yard using 10mm pea gravel,
and since then every cat in the neighbourhood has been using it as its
personal litter tray.

I was wondering, would putting down 20mm gravel in its place solve the
problem? As its larger they cant paw it over so well.

Anyone had any experience with this?


I used 20mm chippings specifically to prevent the well-known problem of
small gravel attracting cats to use it as a litter tray. Over the past 10
years, none of the 6 tonnes I put down has tempted any cats.

Colin Bignell



Mogga September 6th 07 08:31 AM

Cats and gravel
 
On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 22:32:13 +0100, "Dark Angel"
wrote:

OK, i recently gravelled a section of my front yard using 10mm pea gravel,
and since then every cat in the neighbourhood has been using it as its
personal litter tray.

I was wondering, would putting down 20mm gravel in its place solve the
problem? As its larger they cant paw it over so well.

Anyone had any experience with this?


Putting a big dog there might help.
Or a water pistol.
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Lobster September 6th 07 09:33 AM

Cats and gravel
 
Dark Angel wrote:
OK, i recently gravelled a section of my front yard using 10mm pea
gravel, and since then every cat in the neighbourhood has been using
it as its personal litter tray.

I was wondering, would putting down 20mm gravel in its place solve
the problem? As its larger they cant paw it over so well.

Anyone had any experience with this?


Yep, I laid an area of 20mm gravel not long ago and cats crap all over
it. Don't think the turds gets buried in it as much as they would with
10mm, so you may regard that as a benefit. I suspect it depends on
what other substrates are available nearby for your local cat
population, as to whether they choose your gravel.

David


EricP September 6th 07 03:38 PM

Cats and gravel
 
On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 22:32:13 +0100, "Dark Angel"
wrote:

OK, i recently gravelled a section of my front yard using 10mm pea gravel,
and since then every cat in the neighbourhood has been using it as its
personal litter tray.

I was wondering, would putting down 20mm gravel in its place solve the
problem? As its larger they cant paw it over so well.

Anyone had any experience with this?


Yes. You are up cat-crap creek.

Cats seem conditioned to litter trays and you have provided a nice big
one for them. It gets worse as the smell gets bedded into the stuff
and attracts more.

Only suggestion would be to liberally dose the stuff with pepper or
jeyes fluid. The smell from it will put them off for a while but it
may kill you off as well.

Cats are becoming a menace here and have surged from four to over
twenty this summer. It's becoming impossible to leave a door or window
open without one or another from calmly walking in. And I like them.
:((

Dark Angel[_2_] September 6th 07 05:27 PM

Cats and gravel
 

"Lobster" wrote in message...
Yep, I laid an area of 20mm gravel not long ago and cats crap all over
it.


Strange as I have 20mm gravel round the back, but they dont crap there.
Though that may be because my back yard is fairly enclosed, wheras the front
is open.


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tony sayer September 6th 07 06:12 PM

Cats and gravel
 
In article , Dark Angel darkangel5NOSPA
scribeth thus
OK, i recently gravelled a section of my front yard using 10mm pea gravel,
and since then every cat in the neighbourhood has been using it as its
personal litter tray.

I was wondering, would putting down 20mm gravel in its place solve the
problem? As its larger they cant paw it over so well.

Anyone had any experience with this?



Yes the moggy we've just acquired can cope with 20 mil!, takes its time
farting about, makes several "Test holes" before deciding which one to
crap in, then a really elaborate cover up operation around 5 mins from
start to finish!...

SWMBO is now digging up a corner of the lawn and is going to persuade
matey to give that area a go!...
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Andy Hall September 6th 07 06:37 PM

Cats and gravel
 
On 2007-09-06 18:12:11 +0100, tony sayer said:

In article , Dark Angel darkangel5NOSPA
scribeth thus
OK, i recently gravelled a section of my front yard using 10mm pea gravel,
and since then every cat in the neighbourhood has been using it as its
personal litter tray.

I was wondering, would putting down 20mm gravel in its place solve the
problem? As its larger they cant paw it over so well.

Anyone had any experience with this?



Yes the moggy we've just acquired can cope with 20 mil!, takes its time
farting about, makes several "Test holes" before deciding which one to
crap in, then a really elaborate cover up operation around 5 mins from
start to finish!...

SWMBO is now digging up a corner of the lawn and is going to persuade
matey to give that area a go!...


Have you told her that she's going to be disappointed, or are you going
to let her discover the hard way?

Unless this place is kept scrupulously clean and attractive, pussy
will find other places to be better and will go there instead.


OB September 6th 07 08:13 PM

Cats and gravel
 
On Thu, 6 Sep 2007 18:37:02 +0100, Andy Hall
wrote:
.....

SWMBO is now digging up a corner of the lawn and is going to persuade
matey to give that area a go!...


Have you told her that she's going to be disappointed, or are you going
to let her discover the hard way?

Unless this place is kept scrupulously clean and attractive, pussy
will find other places to be better and will go there instead.

If she puts best quality non-peat free compost and some expensive
plants in it , the cat is bound to use it. A roof to keep it dry would
be appreciated too.

The Medway Handyman September 6th 07 08:37 PM

Cats and gravel
 
Dark Angel wrote:
OK, i recently gravelled a section of my front yard using 10mm pea
gravel, and since then every cat in the neighbourhood has been using
it as its personal litter tray.

I was wondering, would putting down 20mm gravel in its place solve the
problem? As its larger they cant paw it over so well.

Anyone had any experience with this?


I've got 20mm gravel on my front harden & drive and find the odd poo there,
but I'm not convinced its just cats - we have urban foxes. Are they likely
to crap the same as cats do?

I saw one t'other night & lobbed a handful of gravel at it, most of which
made contact - haven't seen it since.

20mm gravel is a better missile :-)


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www.medwayhandyman.co.uk
01634 717930
07850 597257



Andy Hall September 6th 07 08:57 PM

Cats and gravel
 
On 2007-09-06 20:37:55 +0100, "The Medway Handyman"
said:

Dark Angel wrote:
OK, i recently gravelled a section of my front yard using 10mm pea
gravel, and since then every cat in the neighbourhood has been using
it as its personal litter tray.

I was wondering, would putting down 20mm gravel in its place solve the
problem? As its larger they cant paw it over so well.

Anyone had any experience with this?


I've got 20mm gravel on my front harden & drive and find the odd poo there,
but I'm not convinced its just cats - we have urban foxes. Are they likely
to crap the same as cats do?


They do crap, yes.

As to the size of the Richards, it depends on the size of the animal.
I've seen small foxes and there are certainly large cats.



Geoff Beale September 6th 07 10:49 PM

Cats and gravel
 
OB wrote:

On Thu, 6 Sep 2007 18:37:02 +0100, Andy Hall
wrote:
....

SWMBO is now digging up a corner of the lawn and is going to
persuade matey to give that area a go!...


Have you told her that she's going to be disappointed, or are you
going to let her discover the hard way?

Unless this place is kept scrupulously clean and attractive, pussy
will find other places to be better and will go there instead.

If she puts best quality non-peat free compost and some expensive
plants in it , the cat is bound to use it. A roof to keep it dry would
be appreciated too.


Better to bury the cat in the hole and be done with it.
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Mark September 7th 07 09:42 AM

Cats and gravel
 
On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 22:32:13 +0100, "Dark Angel"
wrote:

OK, i recently gravelled a section of my front yard using 10mm pea gravel,
and since then every cat in the neighbourhood has been using it as its
personal litter tray.


http://www.aquatics-online.co.uk/cat...sp#product1377

(I don't know the company BTW).

M

tony sayer September 7th 07 09:46 AM

Cats and gravel
 
In article , The Medway
Handyman scribeth thus
Dark Angel wrote:
OK, i recently gravelled a section of my front yard using 10mm pea
gravel, and since then every cat in the neighbourhood has been using
it as its personal litter tray.

I was wondering, would putting down 20mm gravel in its place solve the
problem? As its larger they cant paw it over so well.

Anyone had any experience with this?


I've got 20mm gravel on my front harden & drive and find the odd poo there,
but I'm not convinced its just cats - we have urban foxes. Are they likely
to crap the same as cats do?

I saw one t'other night & lobbed a handful of gravel at it, most of which
made contact - haven't seen it since.

20mm gravel is a better missile :-)


We've now got Deer turning up in our front garden sometimes lovely
creatures and very timid, all due to the guided busway works across the
way from here disturbing them!....
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Andy Hall September 7th 07 10:26 AM

Cats and gravel
 
On 2007-09-07 09:46:19 +0100, tony sayer said:

In article , The Medway
Handyman scribeth thus
Dark Angel wrote:
OK, i recently gravelled a section of my front yard using 10mm pea
gravel, and since then every cat in the neighbourhood has been using
it as its personal litter tray.

I was wondering, would putting down 20mm gravel in its place solve the
problem? As its larger they cant paw it over so well.

Anyone had any experience with this?


I've got 20mm gravel on my front harden & drive and find the odd poo there,
but I'm not convinced its just cats - we have urban foxes. Are they likely
to crap the same as cats do?

I saw one t'other night & lobbed a handful of gravel at it, most of which
made contact - haven't seen it since.

20mm gravel is a better missile :-)


We've now got Deer turning up in our front garden sometimes lovely
creatures and very timid, all due to the guided busway works across the
way from here disturbing them!....


What's a guided busway?



Martyn Pollard[_2_] September 7th 07 11:34 AM

Cats and gravel
 
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 09:42:08 +0100, Mark wrote:

http://www.aquatics-online.co.uk/cat...sp#product1377

(I don't know the company BTW).

M

Found an interesting link on that page
http://www.ssscat.com/english/index.html
I was sceptical about those spray deterrents but just look at the cat in
those videos!

I use the ultrasonic scarers and they do seem to work, but you need a few
of them to overlap coverage for a larger area. For the first few days the
cats didn't seem to care about the noise - one even sat near it! It took a
couple of weeks for them to get the message. Haven't found any presents on
the lawn since then so perhaps they like to do their business in peace and
quiet? The ones I bought were from ebay for about £16 each. Worth buying
the power adaptor too as they get through two PP3s every couple of months.

However the scarers do have the (un?)wanted side effect that all the kids
in the area can also hear them...

Martyn


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Andy Hall September 7th 07 11:55 AM

Cats and gravel
 
On 2007-09-07 11:24:14 +0100, Owain said:

Andy Hall wrote:
What's a guided busway?


It's an ordinary road bus which runs in a concrete channel. Sensors on
the bus detect the channel and do the steering. Because the bus is
controlled so precisely the busway can be narrower than an ordinary bus
lane.

Sort of like a tram with an internal combustion engine, that doesn't
need tramlines.

They've got one in Edinburgh, goes past the Screwfix depot.

Owain


So does it have a driver? If it does, I don't see what's gained.



Mark September 7th 07 12:33 PM

Cats and gravel
 
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 10:34:27 GMT, Martyn Pollard
wrote:

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 09:42:08 +0100, Mark wrote:

http://www.aquatics-online.co.uk/cat...sp#product1377

(I don't know the company BTW).

M

Found an interesting link on that page
http://www.ssscat.com/english/index.html
I was sceptical about those spray deterrents but just look at the cat in
those videos!


I bet the kids love it too ;-)

I use the ultrasonic scarers and they do seem to work, but you need a few
of them to overlap coverage for a larger area. For the first few days the
cats didn't seem to care about the noise - one even sat near it! It took a
couple of weeks for them to get the message. Haven't found any presents on
the lawn since then so perhaps they like to do their business in peace and
quiet? The ones I bought were from ebay for about £16 each. Worth buying
the power adaptor too as they get through two PP3s every couple of months.

However the scarers do have the (un?)wanted side effect that all the kids
in the area can also hear them...


And dogs? I wonder if it scares away desriable wildlife too?

M

tony sayer September 7th 07 07:11 PM

Cats and gravel
 
In article , Andy Hall
scribeth thus
On 2007-09-07 09:46:19 +0100, tony sayer said:

In article , The Medway
Handyman scribeth thus
Dark Angel wrote:
OK, i recently gravelled a section of my front yard using 10mm pea
gravel, and since then every cat in the neighbourhood has been using
it as its personal litter tray.

I was wondering, would putting down 20mm gravel in its place solve the
problem? As its larger they cant paw it over so well.

Anyone had any experience with this?

I've got 20mm gravel on my front harden & drive and find the odd poo there,
but I'm not convinced its just cats - we have urban foxes. Are they likely
to crap the same as cats do?

I saw one t'other night & lobbed a handful of gravel at it, most of which
made contact - haven't seen it since.

20mm gravel is a better missile :-)


We've now got Deer turning up in our front garden sometimes lovely
creatures and very timid, all due to the guided busway works across the
way from here disturbing them!....


What's a guided busway?




This wondrous contraption which is supposed to sort out a lot of public
transport ill's in the area.

Has the sobriquet "misguided bus"....


http://www.cambridgeshire.gov.uk/transport/guided/
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Andy Hall September 7th 07 08:09 PM

Cats and gravel
 
On 2007-09-07 19:11:30 +0100, tony sayer said:

This wondrous contraption which is supposed to sort out a lot of public
transport ill's in the area.

Has the sobriquet "misguided bus"....


http://www.cambridgeshire.gov.uk/transport/guided/


Now I see

Given that they have a railway line to play with, I would have thought
that an extra two lane road would have been more useful.


tony sayer September 7th 07 08:36 PM

Cats and gravel
 
In article , Andy Hall
scribeth thus
On 2007-09-07 19:11:30 +0100, tony sayer said:

This wondrous contraption which is supposed to sort out a lot of public
transport ill's in the area.

Has the sobriquet "misguided bus"....


http://www.cambridgeshire.gov.uk/transport/guided/


Now I see

Given that they have a railway line to play with, I would have thought
that an extra two lane road would have been more useful.


Or keeping it as a railway but the council leader is determined to have
her misguided bus...
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Andy Hall September 7th 07 08:57 PM

Cats and gravel
 
On 2007-09-07 20:36:04 +0100, tony sayer said:

In article , Andy Hall
scribeth thus
On 2007-09-07 19:11:30 +0100, tony sayer said:

This wondrous contraption which is supposed to sort out a lot of public
transport ill's in the area.

Has the sobriquet "misguided bus"....


http://www.cambridgeshire.gov.uk/transport/guided/


Now I see

Given that they have a railway line to play with, I would have thought
that an extra two lane road would have been more useful.


Or keeping it as a railway but the council leader is determined to have
her misguided bus...


When was it last a railway, for passengers at least?

Bit surprising since Shona is blue. If she'd been orange, I could have
understood it.



tony sayer September 7th 07 09:29 PM

Cats and gravel
 
In article , Andy Hall
scribeth thus
On 2007-09-07 20:36:04 +0100, tony sayer said:

In article , Andy Hall
scribeth thus
On 2007-09-07 19:11:30 +0100, tony sayer said:

This wondrous contraption which is supposed to sort out a lot of public
transport ill's in the area.

Has the sobriquet "misguided bus"....


http://www.cambridgeshire.gov.uk/transport/guided/

Now I see

Given that they have a railway line to play with, I would have thought
that an extra two lane road would have been more useful.


Or keeping it as a railway but the council leader is determined to have
her misguided bus...


When was it last a railway, for passengers at least?


Seem to remember it was around the early 80's but may be wrong on that..

Bit surprising since Shona is blue. If she'd been orange, I could have
understood it.


Yes...
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Adrian C September 9th 07 05:50 PM

Cats and gravel
 
tony sayer wrote:
SWMBO is now digging up a corner of the lawn and is going to persuade
matey to give that area a go!...


Nah, Train the cats to go somewhere else....

http://www.litterkwitter.com.au/en/what_is.php#whatis


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Andy Hall September 9th 07 07:02 PM

Cats and gravel
 
On 2007-09-09 17:50:42 +0100, Adrian C said:

tony sayer wrote:
SWMBO is now digging up a corner of the lawn and is going to persuade
matey to give that area a go!...


Nah, Train the cats to go somewhere else....

http://www.litterkwitter.com.au/en/what_is.php#whatis


So how would this deal with cats that like to drink from the toilet?



Adrian C September 9th 07 07:20 PM

Cats and gravel
 
Andy Hall wrote:
Adrian C
http://www.litterkwitter.com.au/en/what_is.php#whatis


So how would this deal with cats that like to drink from the toilet?


Get another cat, train that cat to use the loo as per link. The other
cats if they have any sense will maybe refrain from drinking from the
same loo?

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Andy Hall September 9th 07 07:32 PM

Cats and gravel
 
On 2007-09-09 19:20:54 +0100, Adrian C said:

Andy Hall wrote:
Adrian C
http://www.litterkwitter.com.au/en/what_is.php#whatis


So how would this deal with cats that like to drink from the toilet?


Get another cat, train that cat to use the loo as per link. The other
cats if they have any sense will maybe refrain from drinking from the
same loo?


You would think so, wouldn't you. Some pedigree cats seem to have a
different perspective. DAMHIK.



dennis@home September 9th 07 10:25 PM

Cats and gravel
 

"Owain" wrote in message
...
Andy Hall wrote:
What's a guided busway?


It's an ordinary road bus which runs in a concrete channel. Sensors on the
bus detect the channel and do the steering. Because the bus is controlled
so precisely the busway can be narrower than an ordinary bus lane.

Sort of like a tram with an internal combustion engine, that doesn't need
tramlines.

They've got one in Edinburgh, goes past the Screwfix depot.


They tried one here a few years ago.. it was scrapped because its
unreliable.


IKILLCATHATERS October 10th 18 06:44 PM

Cats and gravel
 
replying to Geoff Beale, IKILLCATHATERS wrote:
Let's bury you instead

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GB October 10th 18 06:50 PM

Cats and gravel
 
On 10/10/2018 18:44, IKILLCATHATERS wrote:
replying to Geoff Beale, IKILLCATHATERS wrote:
Let's bury you instead


What made you dig that old post up?



Brian Gaff October 10th 18 07:20 PM

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Who knows, maybe it was an irrepressible urge to be silly?
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"GB" wrote in message
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On 10/10/2018 18:44, IKILLCATHATERS wrote:
replying to Geoff Beale, IKILLCATHATERS wrote:
Let's bury you instead


What made you dig that old post up?





John Rumm October 10th 18 10:24 PM

Cats and gravel
 
On 10/10/2018 18:50, GB wrote:
On 10/10/2018 18:44, IKILLCATHATERS wrote:
replying to Geoff Beale, IKILLCATHATERS wrote:
Let's bury you instead


What made you dig that old post up?


He needed some thinking time to really hone that whip smart comeback...

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ARW October 15th 18 07:38 PM

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On 10/10/2018 18:50, GB wrote:
On 10/10/2018 18:44, IKILLCATHATERS wrote:
replying to Geoff Beale, IKILLCATHATERS wrote:
Let's bury you instead


What made you dig that old post up?



Well it's a thick as **** HomeOwnersHub poster.

They make my apprentices look smart, and that takes some doing.



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