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Floor Sanding Problem
I have previously employed a company to sand a couple of floors in my
flat and I wanted them to do the bathroom but after they didnt turn up for an estimate for me I couldnt get in touch and I think they might on holiday as this is a local Trades Fortnight . I phoned another guy and when he heard it was a long narrow bathroom he said his machine wouldnt fit as it would be too broad .I thought about this and called him again and suggested taking the w/h basin and toilet out ..he then said that he was in London on holiday but said he would get an associate to call which he did and came out tonight .He claimed that the machine he used was about 3 and a half feet broad . He showed me the brochure but from what I saw ( a picture ) it looked nothing like that size . It looked similar to the one the previous company had used ..the normal type you can hire . Anyone seen such a machine ...I thought he was taking the **** .....I also wondered after he left how they get them up two or three flights of stairs as they must weigh a ton .....He also said that they had a minimum fee of £250....and there is no way I am paying that for a bathroom floor which is 2.3m x .6m along where the bath is and 2.1m x 1.3 where the w/h basin and toilet are . I'm tempted just to try doing it myself . Stuart |
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"Stuart B" wrote in message ... I have previously employed a company to sand a couple of floors in my flat and I wanted them to do the bathroom but after they didnt turn up for an estimate for me I couldnt get in touch and I think they might on holiday as this is a local Trades Fortnight . I phoned another guy and when he heard it was a long narrow bathroom he said his machine wouldnt fit as it would be too broad .I thought about this and called him again and suggested taking the w/h basin and toilet out ..he then said that he was in London on holiday but said he would get an associate to call which he did and came out tonight .He claimed that the machine he used was about 3 and a half feet broad . He showed me the brochure but from what I saw ( a picture ) it looked nothing like that size . It looked similar to the one the previous company had used ..the normal type you can hire . Anyone seen such a machine ...I thought he was taking the **** .....I also wondered after he left how they get them up two or three flights of stairs as they must weigh a ton .....He also said that they had a minimum fee of £250....and there is no way I am paying that for a bathroom floor which is 2.3m x .6m along where the bath is and 2.1m x 1.3 where the w/h basin and toilet are . 1 Go to local hire shop. 2 Ask for a Belt Sander with coarse, medium and fine grade belts (A couple of each) and a Palm Sander, with suitable grit papers. 3 Buy a pack of quality face masks suitable for the job and some gloves if required. 4 Go home and knock the ALL nails in the floor down to around 2-3mm under flush. Fill larger gaps in boards with papier mache. 5 Following the instructions from the shop or on the paperwork for the devices sand your floor using the coarse through to fine. 6 Vacuum thoroughly the entire area after (And poss' during) the job and wipe clean with clean turps. 7 Coat said finished floor with a quality floor varnish and leave. Preferably go away for the weekend and let it set. (After all unless you can levitate you ain't gonna use the bog!) 8 When dry stand back and admire your handiwork. |
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1 Go to local hire shop. 2 Ask for a Belt Sander with coarse, medium and fine grade belts (A couple of each) and a Palm Sander, with suitable grit papers. 3 Buy a pack of quality face masks suitable for the job and some gloves if required. 4 Go home and knock the ALL nails in the floor down to around 2-3mm under flush. Fill larger gaps in boards with papier mache. 5 Following the instructions from the shop or on the paperwork for the devices sand your floor using the coarse through to fine. 6 Vacuum thoroughly the entire area after (And poss' during) the job and wipe clean with clean turps. 7 Coat said finished floor with a quality floor varnish and leave. Preferably go away for the weekend and let it set. (After all unless you can levitate you ain't gonna use the bog!) 8 When dry stand back and admire your handiwork. What R said, but buy a random orbit sander with 40, 60, 80 & 120 grit discs. Like this http://www.axminster.co.uk/product.a...file=1&jump=24 Cheaper than a hire. -- Dave The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk 01634 717930 07850 597257 |
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On 24 Jul, 01:02, Stuart B wrote:
I have previously employed a company to sand a couple of floors in my flat and I wanted them to do the bathroom but after they didnt turn up for an estimate for me I couldnt get in touch and I think they might on holiday as this is a local Trades Fortnight . I phoned another guy and when he heard it was a long narrow bathroom he said his machine wouldnt fit as it would be too broad .I thought about this and called him again and suggested taking the w/h basin and toilet out ..he then said that he was in London on holiday but said he would get an associate to call which he did and came out tonight .He claimed that the machine he used was about 3 and a half feet broad . He showed me the brochure but from what I saw ( a picture ) it looked nothing like that size . It looked similar to the one the previous company had used ..the normal type you can hire . Anyone seen such a machine ...I thought he was taking the **** .....I also wondered after he left how they get them up two or three flights of stairs as they must weigh a ton .....He also said that they had a minimum fee of £250....and there is no way I am paying that for a bathroom floor which is 2.3m x .6m along where the bath is and 2.1m x 1.3 where the w/h basin and toilet are . I'm tempted just to try doing it myself . Stuart Mass sanding of floors in domestic premises is normally unnecessary, and sometimes ruins the floor by exposing worm tunnels. Usually a thorough clean brings them up well, with spot sanding of any black gloop with a handheld. Its also a lot less work. If you do want to do it, diy sounds good, that area is fairly small. NT |
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In message , The Medway Handyman
writes R wrote: 1 Go to local hire shop. 2 Ask for a Belt Sander with coarse, medium and fine grade belts (A couple of each) and a Palm Sander, with suitable grit papers. 3 Buy a pack of quality face masks suitable for the job and some gloves if required. 4 Go home and knock the ALL nails in the floor down to around 2-3mm under flush. Fill larger gaps in boards with papier mache. 5 Following the instructions from the shop or on the paperwork for the devices sand your floor using the coarse through to fine. 6 Vacuum thoroughly the entire area after (And poss' during) the job and wipe clean with clean turps. 7 Coat said finished floor with a quality floor varnish and leave. Preferably go away for the weekend and let it set. (After all unless you can levitate you ain't gonna use the bog!) 8 When dry stand back and admire your handiwork. What R said, but buy a random orbit sander with 40, 60, 80 & 120 grit discs. Like this http://www.axminster.co.uk/product.a...ndom+orbit+san der&user_search=1&sfile=1&jump=24 Cheaper than a hire. All this looks fine, but how do you sand into the corners? -- Ian |
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In message , The Medway Handyman writes What R said, but buy a random orbit sander with 40, 60, 80 & 120 grit discs. Like this http://www.axminster.co.uk/product.a...ndom+orbit+san der&user_search=1&sfile=1&jump=24 Cheaper than a hire. All this looks fine, but how do you sand into the corners? You don't - a suitably placed plant takes care of that :-) Or a detail sander. -- Dave The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk 01634 717930 07850 597257 |
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The Medway Handyman wrote:
ian wrote: In message , The Medway Handyman writes What R said, but buy a random orbit sander with 40, 60, 80 & 120 grit discs. Like this http://www.axminster.co.uk/product.a...ndom+orbit+san der&user_search=1&sfile=1&jump=24 Cheaper than a hire. All this looks fine, but how do you sand into the corners? You don't - a suitably placed plant takes care of that :-) Or a detail sander. Or do it by hand. |
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Philosopher writes The Medway Handyman wrote: ian wrote: In message , The Medway Handyman writes What R said, but buy a random orbit sander with 40, 60, 80 & 120 grit discs. Like this http://www.axminster.co.uk/product.a...ndom+orbit+san der&user_search=1&sfile=1&jump=24 Cheaper than a hire. All this looks fine, but how do you sand into the corners? You don't - a suitably placed plant takes care of that :-) Or a detail sander. Or do it by hand. OK, so long as I know there's no better way :-)) -- Ian |
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In message , The Natural Philosopher writes The Medway Handyman wrote: ian wrote: In message , The Medway Handyman writes What R said, but buy a random orbit sander with 40, 60, 80 & 120 grit discs. Like this http://www.axminster.co.uk/product.a...ndom+orbit+san der&user_search=1&sfile=1&jump=24 Cheaper than a hire. All this looks fine, but how do you sand into the corners? You don't - a suitably placed plant takes care of that :-) Or a detail sander. Or do it by hand. OK, so long as I know there's no better way :-)) By hand is the best way: It just takes a long time. We are wedded to power tools: I had t shape a bit of worktop and lacked a suitable router bit. I sawed the oak, planed it and set to with coarse sandpaper. It looks no different to the bits the chippies had used a router on. And its almost a nicer experience doing it..instead of a noisy screaming power tool and dust everywhere, you stick the radio on or the telly, sit down with a nice cup of coffee and get stick in to a 3 hour session of scraping and sanding. AND lose quite a few calories in the process, and don't end up with numb fingers. |
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On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 12:01:16 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
wrote: wrote: On 24 Jul, 01:02, Stuart B wrote: I have previously employed a company to sand a couple of floors in my flat and I wanted them to do the bathroom but after they didnt turn up for an estimate for me I couldnt get in touch and I think they might on holiday as this is a local Trades Fortnight . I phoned another guy and when he heard it was a long narrow bathroom he said his machine wouldnt fit as it would be too broad .I thought about this and called him again and suggested taking the w/h basin and toilet out ..he then said that he was in London on holiday but said he would get an associate to call which he did and came out tonight .He claimed that the machine he used was about 3 and a half feet broad . He showed me the brochure but from what I saw ( a picture ) it looked nothing like that size . It looked similar to the one the previous company had used ..the normal type you can hire . Anyone seen such a machine ...I thought he was taking the **** .....I also wondered after he left how they get them up two or three flights of stairs as they must weigh a ton .....He also said that they had a minimum fee of £250....and there is no way I am paying that for a bathroom floor which is 2.3m x .6m along where the bath is and 2.1m x 1.3 where the w/h basin and toilet are . I'm tempted just to try doing it myself . Stuart Mass sanding of floors in domestic premises is normally unnecessary, and sometimes ruins the floor by exposing worm tunnels. Usually a thorough clean brings them up well, with spot sanding of any black gloop with a handheld. Its also a lot less work. If you do want to do it, diy sounds good, that area is fairly small. NT Yawn. Its a flat, probably modern.. Juts get a butch orbital sander and a decent vaccuum and do it yourself. It IS a flat as you say but over 100 years old . Stuart |
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On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 00:49:13 +0100, "The Medway Handyman"
wrote: R wrote: 1 Go to local hire shop. 2 Ask for a Belt Sander with coarse, medium and fine grade belts (A couple of each) and a Palm Sander, with suitable grit papers. 3 Buy a pack of quality face masks suitable for the job and some gloves if required. 4 Go home and knock the ALL nails in the floor down to around 2-3mm under flush. Fill larger gaps in boards with papier mache. 5 Following the instructions from the shop or on the paperwork for the devices sand your floor using the coarse through to fine. 6 Vacuum thoroughly the entire area after (And poss' during) the job and wipe clean with clean turps. 7 Coat said finished floor with a quality floor varnish and leave. Preferably go away for the weekend and let it set. (After all unless you can levitate you ain't gonna use the bog!) 8 When dry stand back and admire your handiwork. What R said, but buy a random orbit sander with 40, 60, 80 & 120 grit discs. Like this http://www.axminster.co.uk/product.a...file=1&jump=24 Cheaper than a hire. I already have one and a detail sander as well which will do the corners . Stuart |
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"Go home and knock the ALL nails in the floor down to around 2-3mm under
flush" Then: sand floor; spend ages filling the tops of all the nails and sanding filler; dye floor to owner's spec and varnish with three coats; come back next day; drain down central heating; mend pipe with nail stuck through it; refill ch; wait for floor to dry out; start again... Don't say I didna warn ya. S "Stuart B" wrote in message ... On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 00:49:13 +0100, "The Medway Handyman" wrote: R wrote: 1 Go to local hire shop. 2 Ask for a Belt Sander with coarse, medium and fine grade belts (A couple of each) and a Palm Sander, with suitable grit papers. 3 Buy a pack of quality face masks suitable for the job and some gloves if required. 4 Go home and knock the ALL nails in the floor down to around 2-3mm under flush. Fill larger gaps in boards with papier mache. 5 Following the instructions from the shop or on the paperwork for the devices sand your floor using the coarse through to fine. 6 Vacuum thoroughly the entire area after (And poss' during) the job and wipe clean with clean turps. 7 Coat said finished floor with a quality floor varnish and leave. Preferably go away for the weekend and let it set. (After all unless you can levitate you ain't gonna use the bog!) 8 When dry stand back and admire your handiwork. What R said, but buy a random orbit sander with 40, 60, 80 & 120 grit discs. Like this http://www.axminster.co.uk/product.a...file=1&jump=24 Cheaper than a hire. I already have one and a detail sander as well which will do the corners . Stuart |
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