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Arthur 51 July 23rd 07 11:40 AM

Last qstn on stringers
 
Hi all.
The wall side string..how thick does this need to be?

Thanks.

Arthur.


The Natural Philosopher July 23rd 07 12:19 PM

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Arthur 51 wrote:
Hi all.
The wall side string..how thick does this need to be?

Thanks.

Arthur.

19mm=3/4" is generally a sensible size.

Arthur 51 July 23rd 07 12:42 PM

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On 23 Jul, 12:19, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Arthur 51 wrote:
Hi all.
The wall side string..how thick does this need to be?


Thanks.


Arthur.


19mm=3/4" is generally a sensible size.


Thanks, Nat.


John Rumm July 23rd 07 01:12 PM

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Arthur 51 wrote:

The wall side string..how thick does this need to be?


Looks best when it matches the other side. 3/4" would be about as slim
as you could go and still have enough thickness to include decent
rebates for the treads and risers and be able to get tight wedges in.

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Cheers,

John.

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Arthur 51 July 23rd 07 02:57 PM

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On 23 Jul, 13:12, John Rumm wrote:
Arthur 51 wrote:
The wall side string..how thick does this need to be?


Looks best when it matches the other side. 3/4" would be about as slim
as you could go and still have enough thickness to include decent
rebates for the treads and risers and be able to get tight wedges in.

--
Cheers,

John.


For a long time I had assumed that rebates are required for treads but
as
no one had mentioned them in earlier discussions. And even after
finding various web sites containing diagrams of stairs I couldn't
detect any mention of rebates. I had begun to think they
were an outdated method and replaced by simple blocks and wedges.

So if I use a 40mm thick string will 12mm be deep enough for the
rebates?

Arthur


John Rumm July 23rd 07 04:00 PM

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Arthur 51 wrote:

For a long time I had assumed that rebates are required for treads but
as
no one had mentioned them in earlier discussions. And even after
finding various web sites containing diagrams of stairs I couldn't
detect any mention of rebates. I had begun to think they
were an outdated method and replaced by simple blocks and wedges.


Many of the web sites you find discuss the open string style more common
in the US. The more common fully housed strings we commonly use still
work much better if correctly rebated and wedged IMHO.

Some designs use a combination of the two - open strings on the banister
side, and closed on the wall side:

http://www.stairplan.com/staircases.htm

So if I use a 40mm thick string will 12mm be deep enough for the
rebates?


Yup. I only had relatively short lengths of unsupported string (5 steps)
so used 1" thick PAR stock (so about 21 - 22mm ish in reality), and
rebated that for the treads and risers to about half depth. I cut the
wedges out of stock that was probably twice that depth since it is what
was to hand and made them a little easier to hammer into place.

I did not rebate the string into the plaster of the wall - although you
can do if you want to give it extra support.

(I have a bunch of photos of my stairs during construction - I can stick
hires versions up for download if that is any use to you)


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Cheers,

John.

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Brian G July 23rd 07 06:36 PM

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Arthur 51 wrote:
Hi all.
The wall side string..how thick does this need to be?

Thanks.

Arthur.


Arthur,

The same thickness as the other side (at least one and a quarter inches [or
metric equivalent]) - especially if you are going to 'house' the steps and
risers into the string and the use wedges to fix (the correct method).

If you intent to simply glue and screw timber 'cleats' onto the strings to
support the steps and risers, then you can go a little thinner with the
material.


Brian G



Brian G July 23rd 07 07:09 PM

Last qstn on stringers
 
Arthur 51 wrote:
Hi all.
The wall side string..how thick does this need to be?

Thanks.

Arthur.


Arthur,

Have a look at this link and be amazed at what this man does with stairs.

http://www.plamann.com/currentwork.html

Brian G



raden July 23rd 07 09:33 PM

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In message , Brian G
writes
Arthur 51 wrote:
Hi all.
The wall side string..how thick does this need to be?

Thanks.

Arthur.


Arthur,

Have a look at this link and be amazed at what this man does with stairs.

http://www.plamann.com/currentwork.html

Given time ...

--
geoff

Brian G July 23rd 07 10:22 PM

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raden wrote:
In message , Brian G
writes
Arthur 51 wrote:
Hi all.
The wall side string..how thick does this need to be?

Thanks.

Arthur.


Arthur,

Have a look at this link and be amazed at what this man does with
stairs. http://www.plamann.com/currentwork.html

Given time ...


You ought to see his workshop... he occasionally posts on
alt.binaries.pictures.woodwork.




raden July 23rd 07 10:41 PM

Last qstn on stringers
 
In message , Brian G
writes
raden wrote:
In message , Brian G
writes
Arthur 51 wrote:
Hi all.
The wall side string..how thick does this need to be?

Thanks.

Arthur.

Arthur,

Have a look at this link and be amazed at what this man does with
stairs. http://www.plamann.com/currentwork.html

Given time ...


You ought to see his workshop... he occasionally posts on
alt.binaries.pictures.woodwork.

That would only invoke jealousy ...

--
geoff

John Rumm July 24th 07 01:03 AM

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Brian G wrote:

Have a look at this link and be amazed at what this man does with stairs.

http://www.plamann.com/currentwork.html


That's just showing off! ;-)

Especially:

http://www.plamann.com/groinedceilingforoffice.html

--
Cheers,

John.

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Arthur 51 July 24th 07 10:47 AM

Last qstn on stringers
 
On 24 Jul, 01:03, John Rumm wrote:
Brian G wrote:
Have a look at this link and be amazed at what this man does with stairs.


http://www.plamann.com/currentwork.html


That's just showing off! ;-)

Especially:

http://www.plamann.com/groinedceilingforoffice.html

--
Cheers,

John.



Harrumph!
Must admit. He does seem to be a tad better than average.

Arthur



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