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Thomarse July 13th 07 01:12 PM

doors doors doors, where to get big ones!
 
I wish bigger was better when it came to internal doors as then they
would be so popular I'd be able to walk into my local DIY store and
buy what I need!...

In my victorian terrace I have doors which I want to replace as they
are the horibble looking laminated brown fake wood effect ones that
look like something out of the 70's...

The problem is their size!.. It seems people used to be alot taller
and fatter in victorian days as these doors are massive compared to
anything I can find i standard DIY sheds.

Does anyone know where I can get some basic hardboard, white, panel
effect doors (which in any other size you can pick up for £20 or so)
but in the following size...

33" wide (possibly 32", I cant reember off the top of my head... and
80" tall as opposed to the standard 78"

Any help or advice or anyone who has suffered the same problem please
advise... I am worried thsi is going to turn out to be costly... I
only need 3 of the things!

Tom


Thomarse July 13th 07 01:17 PM

doors doors doors, where to get big ones!
 
On Jul 13, 1:12 pm, Thomarse wrote:
I wish bigger was better when it came to internal doors as then they
would be so popular I'd be able to walk into my local DIY store and
buy what I need!...

In my victorian terrace I have doors which I want to replace as they
are the horibble looking laminated brown fake wood effect ones that
look like something out of the 70's...

The problem is their size!.. It seems people used to be alot taller
and fatter in victorian days as these doors are massive compared to
anything I can find i standard DIY sheds.

Does anyone know where I can get some basic hardboard, white, panel
effect doors (which in any other size you can pick up for £20 or so)
but in the following size...

33" wide (possibly 32", I cant reember off the top of my head... and
80" tall as opposed to the standard 78"

Any help or advice or anyone who has suffered the same problem please
advise... I am worried thsi is going to turn out to be costly... I
only need 3 of the things!

Tom


Typical, I finally post it and then look on the WIckes site as I have
been doing for weeks and they appear to have what I need... forget my
ramblings!!

Any info on doors etc woudl still be useful though as its always handy
to know a good supplier etc...originally the idea was to have stripped
pine doors, but I definately cant find those in this size anywhere,
not new anyway...


[email protected] July 13th 07 01:18 PM

doors doors doors, where to get big ones!
 
On Jul 13, 1:12 pm, Thomarse wrote:
Does anyone know where I can get some basic hardboard, white, panel
effect doors (which in any other size you can pick up for £20 or so)
but in the following size...

33" wide (possibly 32", I cant reember off the top of my head... and
80" tall as opposed to the standard 78"


The ones sold by Wickes are made by Premdor http://www.premdor.co.uk/
who have a much wider range (including larger sizes for some doors)
and their website will give you a local stockist.

MBQ


[email protected] July 13th 07 01:20 PM

doors doors doors, where to get big ones!
 
On Jul 13, 1:17 pm, Thomarse wrote:
On Jul 13, 1:12 pm, Thomarse wrote:
Typical, I finally post it and then look on the WIckes site as I have
been doing for weeks and they appear to have what I need... forget my
ramblings!!


They have only a very limited range and will no longer order other
sizes.

See my other post.

MBQ


Thomarse July 13th 07 01:34 PM

doors doors doors, where to get big ones!
 
On Jul 13, 1:20 pm, "
wrote:
On Jul 13, 1:17 pm, Thomarse wrote:

On Jul 13, 1:12 pm, Thomarse wrote:
Typical, I finally post it and then look on the WIckes site as I have
been doing for weeks and they appear to have what I need... forget my
ramblings!!


They have only a very limited range and will no longer order other
sizes.

See my other post.

MBQ


Thanks for the info and link, very useful... However I'm a little
confused, the prices on the Premdor site are much higher than what
Wickes sell the doors for.. How can this be?


The Natural Philosopher July 13th 07 01:56 PM

doors doors doors, where to get big ones!
 
Thomarse wrote:
On Jul 13, 1:20 pm, "
wrote:
On Jul 13, 1:17 pm, Thomarse wrote:

On Jul 13, 1:12 pm, Thomarse wrote:
Typical, I finally post it and then look on the WIckes site as I have
been doing for weeks and they appear to have what I need... forget my
ramblings!!

They have only a very limited range and will no longer order other
sizes.

See my other post.

MBQ


Thanks for the info and link, very useful... However I'm a little
confused, the prices on the Premdor site are much higher than what
Wickes sell the doors for.. How can this be?


Discount.

Tony Bryer July 13th 07 02:08 PM

doors doors doors, where to get big ones!
 
On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 05:12:51 -0700 Thomarse wrote :
33" wide (possibly 32", I cant reember off the top of my head...
and 80" tall as opposed to the standard 78"


6'8" x 2'8" - still available if you go to a timber merchant or
specialist door supplier

--
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Thomarse July 13th 07 02:24 PM

doors doors doors, where to get big ones!
 
On Jul 13, 1:56 pm, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Thomarse wrote:
On Jul 13, 1:20 pm, "
wrote:
On Jul 13, 1:17 pm, Thomarse wrote:


On Jul 13, 1:12 pm, Thomarse wrote:
Typical, I finally post it and then look on the WIckes site as I have
been doing for weeks and they appear to have what I need... forget my
ramblings!!
They have only a very limited range and will no longer order other
sizes.


See my other post.


MBQ


Thanks for the info and link, very useful... However I'm a little
confused, the prices on the Premdor site are much higher than what
Wickes sell the doors for.. How can this be?


Discount.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I dont see how Premdor can sell a door for £80 and the same door which
has been sold to Wickes by Premdor costs only £20 in Wickes... isnt
the middle man supposed to make it more expensive, so to make a
profit? Obviously Wickes buy them in bulk at a greatly reduced
rate..But surely not so much reduced that they can sell at a quarter
of the price?


Andy Burns July 13th 07 02:28 PM

doors doors doors, where to get big ones!
 
On 13/07/2007 14:24, Thomarse wrote:

I dont see how Premdor can sell a door for £80 and the same door which
has been sold to Wickes by Premdor costs only £20 in Wickes...


They don't really want the hassle of selling you a single door, they'd
rather sell them by the lorry-load to Wickes, so the price they offer to
you is punitively high.



Thomarse July 13th 07 02:50 PM

doors doors doors, where to get big ones!
 
On Jul 13, 2:28 pm, Andy Burns wrote:
On 13/07/2007 14:24, Thomarse wrote:

I dont see how Premdor can sell a door for £80 and the same door which
has been sold to Wickes by Premdor costs only £20 in Wickes...


They don't really want the hassle of selling you a single door, they'd
rather sell them by the lorry-load to Wickes, so the price they offer to
you is punitively high.


That makes sense... just seems a little odd in this case as their
website is very "consumer friendly" and looks like tey are trying to
attract people in to buy...

Oh well, i'll get my doors from wickes unless they dont stock the big
ones then I will resort back to Premdor!


Steve Firth July 13th 07 04:10 PM

doors doors doors, where to get big ones!
 
Thomarse wrote:

Does anyone know where I can get some basic hardboard, white, panel
effect doors (which in any other size you can pick up for £20 or so)
but in the following size...


Oh FFS, you're moaning about one hideous type of door installed by the
insane DIY fanatics of the 1970s only to consider replacing them with
hideous 1980s hardboard and paper crap.

Get some doors made by the local joiner, who can do a decent job. I've
had to replace an extremely non-standard door in a Georgian house and
I'm utterly grateful that we had the sense to get a proper one made
rather than to try and fit a recent pastiche.

[email protected] July 13th 07 04:29 PM

doors doors doors, where to get big ones!
 
On Jul 13, 2:24 pm, Thomarse wrote:
On Jul 13, 1:56 pm, The Natural Philosopher wrote:





Thomarse wrote:
On Jul 13, 1:20 pm, "
wrote:
On Jul 13, 1:17 pm, Thomarse wrote:


On Jul 13, 1:12 pm, Thomarse wrote:
Typical, I finally post it and then look on the WIckes site as I have
been doing for weeks and they appear to have what I need... forget my
ramblings!!
They have only a very limited range and will no longer order other
sizes.


See my other post.


MBQ


Thanks for the info and link, very useful... However I'm a little
confused, the prices on the Premdor site are much higher than what
Wickes sell the doors for.. How can this be?


Discount.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I dont see how Premdor can sell a door for £80 and the same door which
has been sold to Wickes by Premdor costs only £20 in Wickes... isnt
the middle man supposed to make it more expensive, so to make a
profit? Obviously Wickes buy them in bulk at a greatly reduced
rate..But surely not so much reduced that they can sell at a quarter
of the price?-


The price through my local stockist (Blanchfords, Princes Risborough)
was very similar to what I would have paid in Wickes and included free
delivery. I was advised that if I only wanted 4, it would be cheaper
to buy 5 and throw one away so there is some element of discount/
minimum order at work. As it happens I did want 5 so it was not an
issue for me.

MBQ


[email protected] July 13th 07 04:32 PM

doors doors doors, where to get big ones!
 
On Jul 13, 2:24 pm, Thomarse wrote:
On Jul 13, 1:56 pm, The Natural Philosopher wrote:





Thomarse wrote:
On Jul 13, 1:20 pm, "
wrote:
On Jul 13, 1:17 pm, Thomarse wrote:


On Jul 13, 1:12 pm, Thomarse wrote:
Typical, I finally post it and then look on the WIckes site as I have
been doing for weeks and they appear to have what I need... forget my
ramblings!!
They have only a very limited range and will no longer order other
sizes.


See my other post.


MBQ


Thanks for the info and link, very useful... However I'm a little
confused, the prices on the Premdor site are much higher than what
Wickes sell the doors for.. How can this be?


Discount.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I dont see how Premdor can sell a door for £80 and the same door which
has been sold to Wickes by Premdor costs only £20 in Wickes... isnt
the middle man supposed to make it more expensive, so to make a
profit? Obviously Wickes buy them in bulk at a greatly reduced
rate..But surely not so much reduced that they can sell at a quarter
of the price?


Forgot to add, be careful you are comparing like for like. Premdor do
the same pattern doors (at least in some ranges) in the cheap and
cheerful cardboard and wet string variety (ie similar to Wickes)
through to fire door quality.

MBQ


Thomarse July 16th 07 11:08 AM

doors doors doors, where to get big ones!
 
On Jul 13, 4:10 pm, (Steve Firth) wrote:
wrote:
Does anyone know where I can get some basic hardboard, white, panel
effect doors (which in any other size you can pick up for £20 or so)
but in the following size...


Oh FFS, you're moaning about one hideous type of door installed by the
insane DIY fanatics of the 1970s only to consider replacing them with
hideous 1980s hardboard and paper crap.

Get some doors made by the local joiner, who can do a decent job. I've
had to replace an extremely non-standard door in a Georgian house and
I'm utterly grateful that we had the sense to get a proper one made
rather than to try and fit a recent pastiche.


Oh Steve - If only the world was as black and white as that!...

The old doors were literally hidious and brown and not at all in
keeping with the house. In an ideal world I'd have a joiner come round
and hand craft me some timber doors to original specs... And I'd
probably pay someone to hand build my kitchen, infact I'd have a local
"crafts person" in to do everything... I'm on your wavelength there!

Unfortunately money does come into the equation....and I cant justify
paying out that amount of money on doors, when I can get cheap ones at
a very small fraction of the price and be satisfied with the
result.... Perhaps then once day when money isnt quite as tight I can
consider the crafted option....

Well done for getting your door hand crafted! I'm glad you had the
money to do so.... Perhaps if you had a houseful of doors to replace
in a house that you were only looking to live in for 5 years or so you
wouldnt have gone to the trouble....Or mayb you would, but I have my
own opinions on that logic!

Tom


Steve Firth July 16th 07 06:55 PM

doors doors doors, where to get big ones!
 
Thomarse wrote:


Well done for getting your door hand crafted! I'm glad you had the
money to do so....


Well... in fact it cost the same price give or take a tenner as buying
one from one of the sheds. Although TBH we didn't have an option because
the door frames are completely non-standard so the closest we could find
was a door from a salvage yard which cost £,£££.pp s


Thomarse July 18th 07 08:29 AM

doors doors doors, where to get big ones!
 
On Jul 16, 6:55 pm, (Steve Firth) wrote:
wrote:

Well done for getting your door hand crafted! I'm glad you had the
money to do so....


Well... in fact it cost the same price give or take a tenner as buying
one from one of the sheds. Although TBH we didn't have an option because
the door frames are completely non-standard so the closest we could find
was a door from a salvage yard which cost £,£££.pp s


Please give me the details of the person who built you a custom made
door for £25, I will certainly employ him!

Tom


Steve Firth July 18th 07 04:52 PM

doors doors doors, where to get big ones!
 
Thomarse wrote:

Please give me the details of the person who built you a custom made
door for £25, I will certainly employ him!


A £25 door is worth less than you pay for it.

Thomarse July 20th 07 08:05 AM

doors doors doors, where to get big ones!
 
On Jul 18, 4:52 pm, (Steve Firth) wrote:
wrote:
Please give me the details of the person who built you a custom made
door for £25, I will certainly employ him!


A £25 door is worth less than you pay for it.


Most products are worth less than yuo pay fo them!... they are only
worth what people are willing to pay for them... And I think for a bog
standard door that will vastly improve the look of my home £25 a door
is cheap and worth it. As I said before, a handmade timber door would
be the ideal, but is not practical in my situation, as is probably the
case with 90% of the population..

I guess your custom built door cost a little more than the £25 I was
talking about then?.. Nice idea though


Ed Sirett July 20th 07 07:31 PM

doors doors doors, where to get big ones!
 
On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 05:12:51 -0700, Thomarse wrote:

I wish bigger was better when it came to internal doors as then they
would be so popular I'd be able to walk into my local DIY store and
buy what I need!...

In my victorian terrace I have doors which I want to replace as they
are the horibble looking laminated brown fake wood effect ones that
look like something out of the 70's...

The problem is their size!.. It seems people used to be alot taller
and fatter in victorian days as these doors are massive compared to
anything I can find i standard DIY sheds.

Does anyone know where I can get some basic hardboard, white, panel
effect doors (which in any other size you can pick up for £20 or so)
but in the following size...

33" wide (possibly 32", I cant reember off the top of my head... and
80" tall as opposed to the standard 78"

Any help or advice or anyone who has suffered the same problem please
advise... I am worried thsi is going to turn out to be costly... I
only need 3 of the things!

Tom


A real building/timber merchant is what you need.
Common standard sizes are 30,32& 33 x 78 &80".




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