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I wish bigger was better when it came to internal doors as then they
would be so popular I'd be able to walk into my local DIY store and buy what I need!... In my victorian terrace I have doors which I want to replace as they are the horibble looking laminated brown fake wood effect ones that look like something out of the 70's... The problem is their size!.. It seems people used to be alot taller and fatter in victorian days as these doors are massive compared to anything I can find i standard DIY sheds. Does anyone know where I can get some basic hardboard, white, panel effect doors (which in any other size you can pick up for £20 or so) but in the following size... 33" wide (possibly 32", I cant reember off the top of my head... and 80" tall as opposed to the standard 78" Any help or advice or anyone who has suffered the same problem please advise... I am worried thsi is going to turn out to be costly... I only need 3 of the things! Tom |
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On Jul 13, 1:12 pm, Thomarse wrote:
I wish bigger was better when it came to internal doors as then they would be so popular I'd be able to walk into my local DIY store and buy what I need!... In my victorian terrace I have doors which I want to replace as they are the horibble looking laminated brown fake wood effect ones that look like something out of the 70's... The problem is their size!.. It seems people used to be alot taller and fatter in victorian days as these doors are massive compared to anything I can find i standard DIY sheds. Does anyone know where I can get some basic hardboard, white, panel effect doors (which in any other size you can pick up for £20 or so) but in the following size... 33" wide (possibly 32", I cant reember off the top of my head... and 80" tall as opposed to the standard 78" Any help or advice or anyone who has suffered the same problem please advise... I am worried thsi is going to turn out to be costly... I only need 3 of the things! Tom Typical, I finally post it and then look on the WIckes site as I have been doing for weeks and they appear to have what I need... forget my ramblings!! Any info on doors etc woudl still be useful though as its always handy to know a good supplier etc...originally the idea was to have stripped pine doors, but I definately cant find those in this size anywhere, not new anyway... |
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On Jul 13, 1:12 pm, Thomarse wrote:
Does anyone know where I can get some basic hardboard, white, panel effect doors (which in any other size you can pick up for £20 or so) but in the following size... 33" wide (possibly 32", I cant reember off the top of my head... and 80" tall as opposed to the standard 78" The ones sold by Wickes are made by Premdor http://www.premdor.co.uk/ who have a much wider range (including larger sizes for some doors) and their website will give you a local stockist. MBQ |
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On Jul 13, 1:17 pm, Thomarse wrote:
On Jul 13, 1:12 pm, Thomarse wrote: Typical, I finally post it and then look on the WIckes site as I have been doing for weeks and they appear to have what I need... forget my ramblings!! They have only a very limited range and will no longer order other sizes. See my other post. MBQ |
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On Jul 13, 1:20 pm, "
wrote: On Jul 13, 1:17 pm, Thomarse wrote: On Jul 13, 1:12 pm, Thomarse wrote: Typical, I finally post it and then look on the WIckes site as I have been doing for weeks and they appear to have what I need... forget my ramblings!! They have only a very limited range and will no longer order other sizes. See my other post. MBQ Thanks for the info and link, very useful... However I'm a little confused, the prices on the Premdor site are much higher than what Wickes sell the doors for.. How can this be? |
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Thomarse wrote:
On Jul 13, 1:20 pm, " wrote: On Jul 13, 1:17 pm, Thomarse wrote: On Jul 13, 1:12 pm, Thomarse wrote: Typical, I finally post it and then look on the WIckes site as I have been doing for weeks and they appear to have what I need... forget my ramblings!! They have only a very limited range and will no longer order other sizes. See my other post. MBQ Thanks for the info and link, very useful... However I'm a little confused, the prices on the Premdor site are much higher than what Wickes sell the doors for.. How can this be? Discount. |
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On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 05:12:51 -0700 Thomarse wrote :
33" wide (possibly 32", I cant reember off the top of my head... and 80" tall as opposed to the standard 78" 6'8" x 2'8" - still available if you go to a timber merchant or specialist door supplier -- Tony Bryer SDA UK 'Software to build on' http://www.sda.co.uk |
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On Jul 13, 1:56 pm, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Thomarse wrote: On Jul 13, 1:20 pm, " wrote: On Jul 13, 1:17 pm, Thomarse wrote: On Jul 13, 1:12 pm, Thomarse wrote: Typical, I finally post it and then look on the WIckes site as I have been doing for weeks and they appear to have what I need... forget my ramblings!! They have only a very limited range and will no longer order other sizes. See my other post. MBQ Thanks for the info and link, very useful... However I'm a little confused, the prices on the Premdor site are much higher than what Wickes sell the doors for.. How can this be? Discount.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I dont see how Premdor can sell a door for £80 and the same door which has been sold to Wickes by Premdor costs only £20 in Wickes... isnt the middle man supposed to make it more expensive, so to make a profit? Obviously Wickes buy them in bulk at a greatly reduced rate..But surely not so much reduced that they can sell at a quarter of the price? |
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On 13/07/2007 14:24, Thomarse wrote:
I dont see how Premdor can sell a door for £80 and the same door which has been sold to Wickes by Premdor costs only £20 in Wickes... They don't really want the hassle of selling you a single door, they'd rather sell them by the lorry-load to Wickes, so the price they offer to you is punitively high. |
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On Jul 13, 2:28 pm, Andy Burns wrote:
On 13/07/2007 14:24, Thomarse wrote: I dont see how Premdor can sell a door for £80 and the same door which has been sold to Wickes by Premdor costs only £20 in Wickes... They don't really want the hassle of selling you a single door, they'd rather sell them by the lorry-load to Wickes, so the price they offer to you is punitively high. That makes sense... just seems a little odd in this case as their website is very "consumer friendly" and looks like tey are trying to attract people in to buy... Oh well, i'll get my doors from wickes unless they dont stock the big ones then I will resort back to Premdor! |
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Thomarse wrote:
Does anyone know where I can get some basic hardboard, white, panel effect doors (which in any other size you can pick up for £20 or so) but in the following size... Oh FFS, you're moaning about one hideous type of door installed by the insane DIY fanatics of the 1970s only to consider replacing them with hideous 1980s hardboard and paper crap. Get some doors made by the local joiner, who can do a decent job. I've had to replace an extremely non-standard door in a Georgian house and I'm utterly grateful that we had the sense to get a proper one made rather than to try and fit a recent pastiche. |
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On Jul 13, 2:24 pm, Thomarse wrote:
On Jul 13, 1:56 pm, The Natural Philosopher wrote: Thomarse wrote: On Jul 13, 1:20 pm, " wrote: On Jul 13, 1:17 pm, Thomarse wrote: On Jul 13, 1:12 pm, Thomarse wrote: Typical, I finally post it and then look on the WIckes site as I have been doing for weeks and they appear to have what I need... forget my ramblings!! They have only a very limited range and will no longer order other sizes. See my other post. MBQ Thanks for the info and link, very useful... However I'm a little confused, the prices on the Premdor site are much higher than what Wickes sell the doors for.. How can this be? Discount.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I dont see how Premdor can sell a door for £80 and the same door which has been sold to Wickes by Premdor costs only £20 in Wickes... isnt the middle man supposed to make it more expensive, so to make a profit? Obviously Wickes buy them in bulk at a greatly reduced rate..But surely not so much reduced that they can sell at a quarter of the price?- The price through my local stockist (Blanchfords, Princes Risborough) was very similar to what I would have paid in Wickes and included free delivery. I was advised that if I only wanted 4, it would be cheaper to buy 5 and throw one away so there is some element of discount/ minimum order at work. As it happens I did want 5 so it was not an issue for me. MBQ |
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On Jul 13, 2:24 pm, Thomarse wrote:
On Jul 13, 1:56 pm, The Natural Philosopher wrote: Thomarse wrote: On Jul 13, 1:20 pm, " wrote: On Jul 13, 1:17 pm, Thomarse wrote: On Jul 13, 1:12 pm, Thomarse wrote: Typical, I finally post it and then look on the WIckes site as I have been doing for weeks and they appear to have what I need... forget my ramblings!! They have only a very limited range and will no longer order other sizes. See my other post. MBQ Thanks for the info and link, very useful... However I'm a little confused, the prices on the Premdor site are much higher than what Wickes sell the doors for.. How can this be? Discount.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I dont see how Premdor can sell a door for £80 and the same door which has been sold to Wickes by Premdor costs only £20 in Wickes... isnt the middle man supposed to make it more expensive, so to make a profit? Obviously Wickes buy them in bulk at a greatly reduced rate..But surely not so much reduced that they can sell at a quarter of the price? Forgot to add, be careful you are comparing like for like. Premdor do the same pattern doors (at least in some ranges) in the cheap and cheerful cardboard and wet string variety (ie similar to Wickes) through to fire door quality. MBQ |
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On Jul 13, 4:10 pm, (Steve Firth) wrote:
wrote: Does anyone know where I can get some basic hardboard, white, panel effect doors (which in any other size you can pick up for £20 or so) but in the following size... Oh FFS, you're moaning about one hideous type of door installed by the insane DIY fanatics of the 1970s only to consider replacing them with hideous 1980s hardboard and paper crap. Get some doors made by the local joiner, who can do a decent job. I've had to replace an extremely non-standard door in a Georgian house and I'm utterly grateful that we had the sense to get a proper one made rather than to try and fit a recent pastiche. Oh Steve - If only the world was as black and white as that!... The old doors were literally hidious and brown and not at all in keeping with the house. In an ideal world I'd have a joiner come round and hand craft me some timber doors to original specs... And I'd probably pay someone to hand build my kitchen, infact I'd have a local "crafts person" in to do everything... I'm on your wavelength there! Unfortunately money does come into the equation....and I cant justify paying out that amount of money on doors, when I can get cheap ones at a very small fraction of the price and be satisfied with the result.... Perhaps then once day when money isnt quite as tight I can consider the crafted option.... Well done for getting your door hand crafted! I'm glad you had the money to do so.... Perhaps if you had a houseful of doors to replace in a house that you were only looking to live in for 5 years or so you wouldnt have gone to the trouble....Or mayb you would, but I have my own opinions on that logic! Tom |
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Thomarse wrote:
Well done for getting your door hand crafted! I'm glad you had the money to do so.... Well... in fact it cost the same price give or take a tenner as buying one from one of the sheds. Although TBH we didn't have an option because the door frames are completely non-standard so the closest we could find was a door from a salvage yard which cost £,£££.pp s |
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On Jul 16, 6:55 pm, (Steve Firth) wrote:
wrote: Well done for getting your door hand crafted! I'm glad you had the money to do so.... Well... in fact it cost the same price give or take a tenner as buying one from one of the sheds. Although TBH we didn't have an option because the door frames are completely non-standard so the closest we could find was a door from a salvage yard which cost £,£££.pp s Please give me the details of the person who built you a custom made door for £25, I will certainly employ him! Tom |
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Please give me the details of the person who built you a custom made door for £25, I will certainly employ him! A £25 door is worth less than you pay for it. |
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On Jul 18, 4:52 pm, (Steve Firth) wrote:
wrote: Please give me the details of the person who built you a custom made door for £25, I will certainly employ him! A £25 door is worth less than you pay for it. Most products are worth less than yuo pay fo them!... they are only worth what people are willing to pay for them... And I think for a bog standard door that will vastly improve the look of my home £25 a door is cheap and worth it. As I said before, a handmade timber door would be the ideal, but is not practical in my situation, as is probably the case with 90% of the population.. I guess your custom built door cost a little more than the £25 I was talking about then?.. Nice idea though |
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On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 05:12:51 -0700, Thomarse wrote:
I wish bigger was better when it came to internal doors as then they would be so popular I'd be able to walk into my local DIY store and buy what I need!... In my victorian terrace I have doors which I want to replace as they are the horibble looking laminated brown fake wood effect ones that look like something out of the 70's... The problem is their size!.. It seems people used to be alot taller and fatter in victorian days as these doors are massive compared to anything I can find i standard DIY sheds. Does anyone know where I can get some basic hardboard, white, panel effect doors (which in any other size you can pick up for £20 or so) but in the following size... 33" wide (possibly 32", I cant reember off the top of my head... and 80" tall as opposed to the standard 78" Any help or advice or anyone who has suffered the same problem please advise... I am worried thsi is going to turn out to be costly... I only need 3 of the things! Tom A real building/timber merchant is what you need. Common standard sizes are 30,32& 33 x 78 &80". -- Ed Sirett - Property maintainer and registered gas fitter. The FAQ for uk.diy is at http://www.diyfaq.org.uk Gas fitting FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/GasFitting.html Sealed CH FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/SealedCH.html Choosing a Boiler FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/BoilerChoice.html Gas Fitting Standards Docs he http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/GasFittingStandards |
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