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:Jerry: wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Rose tinted specs, I'm afraid. The chances of a Minor breaking
down
are much greater than a modern car. Only thing is it may be
easier to
fix. However, most would replace the points with an electronic
system
- to prevent the thing going constantly off tune. It's easy to
'convert' back to points if you feel the need to carry spares.


The thing is you simply carried a screwdriver and a set of feeler
gauges
with you in the glove box..and a spare set of points usually. Less
than
3 minutes at the roadside usually.

Still have in the A35 as well as a Krooklok to clout the starting motor
into motion!

On my P6 3500 which was the last car I had with points, it was a
once a
week job setting the dwell angle if you wanted to keep it at peak
performance. Fitted a Luminition kit and gave myself some more time
for
the Sunday papers...


If so you must have had a fault in the distributor or poorly
manufactured points (most likely) or no lubrication on the heel-to-cam
contact area, when I had my P6 3500 the points rarely went out of
adjustment, nor do I remember there being too many problems with cars
being returned after servicing - unlike some cars - when the cars were
(almost) current models.

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:Jerry: wrote:
"Adrian" wrote in message
...
snip

That reminds me - need to find a grease gun from 'somewhere'.
Asked at the 'tool store' on the market today - but got blank looks

http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...10850&ts=39828

More clumsy bit of kit than mine bought in the 60's - though I think I
paid a £5 or about at that time!

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Hi

On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 20:22:29 GMT, "clot" wrote:

Adrian wrote:
HI Jerry

On Sat, 7 Jul 2007 17:39:14 +0100, ":Jerry:"
wrote:


"Adrian" wrote in message
...
snip

I'm hoping that the Minor is sufficiently like my old Spridget that
I
can find my way round the basic servicing - and my expert friend up
near Killarney has promised to help with all the other stuff...


90 percent is the same, just make sure that the front trunions are
healthy and keep them correctly serviced (the Spridget, Midget, A40
had front wishbones), the rest is much the same.


That reminds me - need to find a grease gun from 'somewhere'.
Asked at the 'tool store' on the market today - but got blank looks
g
I've got one. No! It's mine! Needed for the joints on the A35 - not my
joints! Seriously, do you have freecycle web over there? you might be
able to get one that way.

I did take a look (we did a lot of freecycling to get rid of 'stuff'
before we left the UK - so I'm familiar with the idea).

There's a Cork City freecycle - but it doesn't seem to 'stretch' out
here to the back of beyond g. I've signed up anyway and will see
what geographical range the group covers - you never know....

I'll have to ask around - there's one local car spares shop, but it's
got more pretty lights and big chrome tubes to go round your exhaust
rather than 'useful' car tools....

If all else fails CPC stock a couple - and they will deliver out here
(though the last order from them came, mysteriously, via an airport in
Germany....!)

Thanks
Adrian

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HI Jerry

On Sat, 7 Jul 2007 21:25:03 +0100, ":Jerry:"
wrote:


"Adrian" wrote in message
.. .
snip

That reminds me - need to find a grease gun from 'somewhere'.
Asked at the 'tool store' on the market today - but got blank looks

http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...10850&ts=39828


Yep - that's exactly what I need.
Trouble is - Screwfix can't be bothered to deliver out here to Ireland
- so they won't be getting my money !

Thanks anyway
Adrian

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"clot" wrote in message
...
:Jerry: wrote:
"Adrian" wrote in message
...
snip

That reminds me - need to find a grease gun from 'somewhere'.
Asked at the 'tool store' on the market today - but got blank
looks

http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...10850&ts=39828

More clumsy bit of kit than mine bought in the 60's - though I think
I paid a £5 or about at that time!

Horses for courses, comes down to what you're used to.

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"clot" wrote in message
...
snip

Still have in the A35 as well as a Krooklok to clout the starting
motor into motion!

Do that to many a modern design of starter motor and it will never
work again!

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Adrian wrote:
Hi

On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 20:22:29 GMT, "clot" wrote:

Adrian wrote:
HI Jerry

On Sat, 7 Jul 2007 17:39:14 +0100, ":Jerry:"
wrote:


"Adrian" wrote in message
...
snip

I'm hoping that the Minor is sufficiently like my old Spridget
that I
can find my way round the basic servicing - and my expert friend
up near Killarney has promised to help with all the other stuff...


90 percent is the same, just make sure that the front trunions are
healthy and keep them correctly serviced (the Spridget, Midget, A40
had front wishbones), the rest is much the same.


That reminds me - need to find a grease gun from 'somewhere'.
Asked at the 'tool store' on the market today - but got blank looks
g
I've got one. No! It's mine! Needed for the joints on the A35 - not
my joints! Seriously, do you have freecycle web over there? you
might be able to get one that way.

I did take a look (we did a lot of freecycling to get rid of 'stuff'
before we left the UK - so I'm familiar with the idea).

There's a Cork City freecycle - but it doesn't seem to 'stretch' out
here to the back of beyond g. I've signed up anyway and will see
what geographical range the group covers - you never know....

I'll have to ask around - there's one local car spares shop, but it's
got more pretty lights and big chrome tubes to go round your exhaust
rather than 'useful' car tools....

If all else fails CPC stock a couple - and they will deliver out here
(though the last order from them came, mysteriously, via an airport in
Germany....!)


Sadly, though I work with people in offices in Cork, I'm not familiar
with the area. Do you still see old Fergusson, Marshall or Fordson
tractors about. I'll bet their owners have grease guns.

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:Jerry: wrote:
"clot" wrote in message
...
Jerry: wrote:
"Adrian" wrote in message
...
snip

That reminds me - need to find a grease gun from 'somewhere'.
Asked at the 'tool store' on the market today - but got blank
looks

http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...10850&ts=39828

More clumsy bit of kit than mine bought in the 60's - though I think
I paid a £5 or about at that time!

Horses for courses, comes down to what you're used to.

True, but it would take up more space in my toolbox than the existing
grease gun. I think this toolbox is a WWII munitions box!

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:Jerry: wrote:
"clot" wrote in message
...
snip

Still have in the A35 as well as a Krooklok to clout the starting
motor into motion!

Do that to many a modern design of starter motor and it will never
work again!

That made me smile! But seriously , when did you last have to thump a
starting motor - I mean a "modern car"?

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Hi

On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 20:55:57 GMT, "clot" wrote:

Adrian wrote:
Hi

On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 20:22:29 GMT, "clot" wrote:

Adrian wrote:
HI Jerry

On Sat, 7 Jul 2007 17:39:14 +0100, ":Jerry:"
wrote:


"Adrian" wrote in message
...
snip

I'm hoping that the Minor is sufficiently like my old Spridget
that I
can find my way round the basic servicing - and my expert friend
up near Killarney has promised to help with all the other stuff...


90 percent is the same, just make sure that the front trunions are
healthy and keep them correctly serviced (the Spridget, Midget, A40
had front wishbones), the rest is much the same.


That reminds me - need to find a grease gun from 'somewhere'.
Asked at the 'tool store' on the market today - but got blank looks
g
I've got one. No! It's mine! Needed for the joints on the A35 - not
my joints! Seriously, do you have freecycle web over there? you
might be able to get one that way.

I did take a look (we did a lot of freecycling to get rid of 'stuff'
before we left the UK - so I'm familiar with the idea).

There's a Cork City freecycle - but it doesn't seem to 'stretch' out
here to the back of beyond g. I've signed up anyway and will see
what geographical range the group covers - you never know....

I'll have to ask around - there's one local car spares shop, but it's
got more pretty lights and big chrome tubes to go round your exhaust
rather than 'useful' car tools....

If all else fails CPC stock a couple - and they will deliver out here
(though the last order from them came, mysteriously, via an airport in
Germany....!)


Sadly, though I work with people in offices in Cork, I'm not familiar
with the area.

We're out in the far South-West - about an hour and 45 years away from
Cork City g - it's great !

Do you still see old Fergusson, Marshall or Fordson
tractors about. I'll bet their owners have grease guns.

Good thought - one of our neighbours is into old machinery -
I'll bet that he knows where to get a grease gun !

Thanks
Adrian

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Adrian wrote:
Hi

On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 20:55:57 GMT, "clot" wrote:

Adrian wrote:
Hi

On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 20:22:29 GMT, "clot"
wrote:

Adrian wrote:
HI Jerry

On Sat, 7 Jul 2007 17:39:14 +0100, ":Jerry:"
wrote:


"Adrian" wrote in message
...
snip

I'm hoping that the Minor is sufficiently like my old Spridget
that I
can find my way round the basic servicing - and my expert
friend up near Killarney has promised to help with all the
other stuff...


90 percent is the same, just make sure that the front trunions
are healthy and keep them correctly serviced (the Spridget,
Midget, A40 had front wishbones), the rest is much the same.


That reminds me - need to find a grease gun from 'somewhere'.
Asked at the 'tool store' on the market today - but got blank
looks g
I've got one. No! It's mine! Needed for the joints on the A35 - not
my joints! Seriously, do you have freecycle web over there? you
might be able to get one that way.

I did take a look (we did a lot of freecycling to get rid of 'stuff'
before we left the UK - so I'm familiar with the idea).

There's a Cork City freecycle - but it doesn't seem to 'stretch' out
here to the back of beyond g. I've signed up anyway and will see
what geographical range the group covers - you never know....

I'll have to ask around - there's one local car spares shop, but
it's got more pretty lights and big chrome tubes to go round your
exhaust rather than 'useful' car tools....

If all else fails CPC stock a couple - and they will deliver out
here (though the last order from them came, mysteriously, via an
airport in Germany....!)


Sadly, though I work with people in offices in Cork, I'm not familiar
with the area.

We're out in the far South-West - about an hour and 45 years away from
Cork City g - it's great !

Do you still see old Fergusson, Marshall or Fordson
tractors about. I'll bet their owners have grease guns.

Good thought - one of our neighbours is into old machinery -
I'll bet that he knows where to get a grease gun !

Thanks
Adrian

A pleasure. I just hope it works out for you.

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"clot" wrote in message
...
:Jerry: wrote:
"clot" wrote in message
...
snip

Still have in the A35 as well as a Krooklok to clout the starting
motor into motion!

Do that to many a modern design of starter motor and it will never
work again!

That made me smile! But seriously , when did you last have to thump
a starting motor - I mean a "modern car"?

In may work, if they were 'thumpable', quite often...

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In article ews.net,
:Jerry: wrote:
And you think a Marina a good alterative to a Minor?

I didn't say that, but if you want an up dated Minor the Marina does
fit the bill - if you want a classic British motor car then you will
be happy with an *unmodified* Minor and drive it accordingly. I'm not
such a stickler for originality, for example I do see the sense in
fitting disc brakes and or a servo, I can even see the rational in
converting it to twin carbs but do draw the line at changing engines,
gearboxes or axles and certainly not fitting an engine etc. that would
not have been available to the factory at the time.

The 1275 engine was concurrent with Minor production. And changing the
axle ratio makes sense for today's roads - unless you intend keeping clear
of motorways. I changed the axle ratio on my '54 Magnette in the '60s for
this very reason. At one time people placed a greater emphasis on top gear
performance than they do now.

Some advocate fitting other makes of engine. I don't. The 1275 is simply a
later version of the A Series and perfectly in keeping.



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Dave Plowman London SW
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In article ,
Adrian wrote:
That reminds me - need to find a grease gun from 'somewhere'.
Asked at the 'tool store' on the market today - but got blank looks

I don't see why - they're still used for other things. But then most
market 'tool' stores don't sell tools. ;-)

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Dave Plowman London SW
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In article ,
clot wrote:
:Jerry: wrote:
"clot" wrote in message
...
snip

Still have in the A35 as well as a Krooklok to clout the starting
motor into motion!

Do that to many a modern design of starter motor and it will never
work again!

That made me smile! But seriously , when did you last have to thump a
starting motor - I mean a "modern car"?

Modern pre-engage types can stick too.

Inertia types like on the Minor usually respond to a good clean - they're
pretty simple devices.

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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

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:Jerry: wrote:

I didn't say that, but if you want an up dated Minor the Marina does
fit the bill

Errm wasn't the Marina more of an Austin Cambridge than a Minor?

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:Jerry: wrote:

"clot" wrote in message
...
snip

Still have in the A35 as well as a Krooklok to clout the starting
motor into motion!

Do that to many a modern design of starter motor and it will never
work again!

I used to use the wheel brace on the Land Rover for the same job. Ideal
shape, long, heavy with a right angled bend that allowed it to reach
around "gubbins" to hit the right spot.

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Adrian wrote:

That reminds me - need to find a grease gun from 'somewhere'.
Asked at the 'tool store' on the market today - but got blank looks

Lots of choice at agricultural suppliers. I got mine from SCATS which
sadly seems determined to turn itself into a pet store these days.

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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
clot wrote:
Jerry: wrote:
"clot" wrote in message
...
snip

Still have in the A35 as well as a Krooklok to clout the starting
motor into motion!

Do that to many a modern design of starter motor and it will never
work again!

That made me smile! But seriously , when did you last have to thump a
starting motor - I mean a "modern car"?

Modern pre-engage types can stick too.

Inertia types like on the Minor usually respond to a good clean -
they're pretty simple devices.

Agreed. I knew intuitively which spanner or part of the socket set to
grab.But now, I cannot recall, is it a 7/8 BST or not?

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Steve Firth wrote:
Jerry: wrote:

"clot" wrote in message
...
snip

Still have in the A35 as well as a Krooklok to clout the starting
motor into motion!

Do that to many a modern design of starter motor and it will never
work again!

I used to use the wheel brace on the Land Rover for the same job.
Ideal shape, long, heavy with a right angled bend that allowed it to
reach around "gubbins" to hit the right spot.

Made me smile!

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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember (Steve Firth)
saying something like:

:Jerry: wrote:

I didn't say that, but if you want an up dated Minor the Marina does
fit the bill

Errm wasn't the Marina more of an Austin Cambridge than a Minor?

No, same dreadful torsion bar and lever arm damped suspension (directly
derived from the Minor), cart springs at the rear, same engine family in
the cheaper ones, a dreadful Triumph gearbox, and cheap and nasty trim.

They could be made to handle (proper coilovers at the front and some
form of anti-tramp at the rear) and go reasonably well ('B' tuning
tricks on the 1800s), but not a patch on a decently sorted Avenger or
Scrote of the day.
--

Dave

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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Adrian
saying something like:

That reminds me - need to find a grease gun from 'somewhere'.
Asked at the 'tool store' on the market today - but got blank looks

You'll find grease guns a-plenty at your local farmers' store.
--

Dave

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Hi Dave

On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 22:35:49 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
Adrian wrote:
That reminds me - need to find a grease gun from 'somewhere'.
Asked at the 'tool store' on the market today - but got blank looks

I don't see why - they're still used for other things. But then most
market 'tool' stores don't sell tools. ;-)

True - it's not quite the same range as Screwfix g

I'll have to ask my neighbour - as well as spending lots of time
'playing' with old farm machinery he also runs the local 'Folk Museum'
(no - not lots of old bu**ers with tie-dye t-shirts and cheap guitars
- local history stuff).

I'm sure he knows where to I can get one

Off to the markets again today - weather forecast is for
heavy showers, possibly thundery - but, at the moment,
there's hardly any wind and not a cloud in the sky !

Don'cha love the Irish weather forecasts ? g

Regards
Adrian

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Hi Steve

On Sat, 7 Jul 2007 23:03:49 +0100, (Steve Firth)
wrote:

Adrian wrote:

That reminds me - need to find a grease gun from 'somewhere'.
Asked at the 'tool store' on the market today - but got blank looks

Lots of choice at agricultural suppliers. I got mine from SCATS which
sadly seems determined to turn itself into a pet store these days.

Now that's a fine idea !
There's a big agri suppliers just over the hill near Bantry -
nextdoor to the 'builders providers' (what you might call a builders
merchant).

Now why didn't I think of that ??

Thanks
Adrian

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"Steve Firth" wrote in message
. ..
:Jerry: wrote:

I didn't say that, but if you want an up dated Minor the Marina
does
fit the bill

Errm wasn't the Marina more of an Austin Cambridge than a Minor?

Not mechanically, although the marketing men tried to market the
1800cc Marina as a A60 (range) replacement, most people who replaced
their A60 bought into the 1800 'Landcrab' range as the Marina didn't
have the kerbside weight to be a replacement for the Cambridge.

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"Steve Firth" wrote in message
. ..
snip

Lots of choice at agricultural suppliers. I got mine from SCATS
which
sadly seems determined to turn itself into a pet store these days.

Unfortunately it's reflecting the improvements made in the design of
farm machinery and at the same time the problems of the farming
industry - can't blame them for trying to survive in a though market,
far to many agricultural suppliers / engineers have gone under in
recent years. :~(

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In article ,
Steve Firth wrote:
I didn't say that, but if you want an up dated Minor the Marina does
fit the bill

Errm wasn't the Marina more of an Austin Cambridge than a Minor?

Not really. The basic one (1300) was more Minor - engine and suspension,
etc. The larger one (1800) had a B Series engine.

In terms of interior space it was closer to the Farina range. The estate
especially was pretty spacious.

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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Steve Firth wrote:
I didn't say that, but if you want an up dated Minor the Marina
does
fit the bill

Errm wasn't the Marina more of an Austin Cambridge than a Minor?

Not really. The basic one (1300) was more Minor - engine and
suspension,
etc. The larger one (1800) had a B Series engine.

In terms of interior space it was closer to the Farina range. The
estate
especially was pretty spacious.


The silly thing is, with a bit more refinement [1], such as using
either the Midget or MGB front axle, a better gearbox and better
method of securing / suspending the rear axle the Marina could have
been a good car. Both the Maxi and the later Marina are prime examples
of what went wrong with B(L)MC. :~(

[1] relitive to what was then current.

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:Jerry: wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Steve Firth wrote:
I didn't say that, but if you want an up dated Minor the Marina
does
fit the bill
Errm wasn't the Marina more of an Austin Cambridge than a Minor?
Not really. The basic one (1300) was more Minor - engine and
suspension,
etc. The larger one (1800) had a B Series engine.

In terms of interior space it was closer to the Farina range. The
estate
especially was pretty spacious.


The silly thing is, with a bit more refinement [1], such as using
either the Midget or MGB front axle, a better gearbox and better
method of securing / suspending the rear axle the Marina could have
been a good car. Both the Maxi and the later Marina are prime examples
of what went wrong with B(L)MC. :~(


Not really. MGB and Midget front axles were high maintenance abortions:
McPherson struts were cheap and OK, and a live rear axle was no worse
than an escort.

The real problem wasn't design per se, but manufacturing quality.

They rusted faster than an escort, and all the switches and knobs broke
(off)

At the time when the Europeans were coming in with galvanized bodies,
full underseal etc etc it simply wasn't acceptable enough (for a private
buy)or cheap enough (for fleet use).


Its amazing that in a world of "me too" cars you juts have to be
slightly cheaper or slightly better to capture a huge slice of the
market. The Ford Escort was slightly cheaper and slightly better IIRC.

So was the Vauxhall Viva. A very decent little McPherson strut live rear
axle thing. Or its bigger brother..the one before the cavalier..


[1] relitive to what was then current.

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In article ews.net,
:Jerry: wrote:

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Steve Firth wrote:
I didn't say that, but if you want an up dated Minor the Marina
does
fit the bill

Errm wasn't the Marina more of an Austin Cambridge than a Minor?

Not really. The basic one (1300) was more Minor - engine and
suspension, etc. The larger one (1800) had a B Series engine.

In terms of interior space it was closer to the Farina range. The
estate especially was pretty spacious.


The silly thing is, with a bit more refinement [1], such as using
either the Midget or MGB front axle, a better gearbox and better method
of securing / suspending the rear axle the Marina could have been a
good car. Both the Maxi and the later Marina are prime examples of what
went wrong with B(L)MC. :~(

I'm not sure the MGB front suspension would have been any better in terms
of refinement. It after all dates from about the same time - but Austin
based rather than Morris. And still used that abortion - lever arm dampers.
The SD1 and Dolomite range had already got reasonable live axle rear
suspension - one could only assume it was too expensive or possibly too
intrusive in boot space for the Marina.

The Maxi was actually quite a decent car let down by the usual lack of
development before sale and dreadful build quality.

Perhaps the worst feature of the Marina was that even the bits it did use
weren't properly sorted at design stage - early road testers complained
bitterly about the understeer and forced BL to do something about it. Many
also suffered extreme clutch judder. Given the a bog standard layout such
things are unbelievable.

[1] relitive to what was then current.

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To e-mail, change noise into sound.

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Roger ) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying :

According to Wikipedia the top speed on electricity only is a mere 42
mph.

In the UK, 30mph.

Acceleration even remotely approaching "sloth-like" also causes it to kick
out of ZEV mode.

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"Adrian" wrote in message
. 245.131...
Roger ) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying :

According to Wikipedia the top speed on electricity only is a mere 42
mph.

In the UK, 30mph.

Acceleration even remotely approaching "sloth-like" also causes it to kick
out of ZEV mode.

The Prius accelerates very well indeed.

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Doctor Drivel ) gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying :

Acceleration even remotely approaching "sloth-like" also causes it to
kick out of ZEV mode.

The Prius accelerates very well indeed.

No, it doesn't.

With the petrol engine kicking, it's acceleration is lacklustre.
Keeping to ZEV mode, you'd out-accelerated by any random mollusc.

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In article ews.net,
Doctor Drivel wrote:
Acceleration even remotely approaching "sloth-like" also causes it to
kick out of ZEV mode.

The Prius accelerates very well indeed.

It does indeed if your benchmark is a milk float. It doesn't if you
compare it to any other similar sized car.

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Dave Plowman London SW
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"Doctor Drivel" wrote in message
reenews.net...

"Adrian" wrote in message
. 245.131...
Roger ) gurgled happily, sounding much
like they
were saying :

According to Wikipedia the top speed on electricity only is a mere
42
mph.

In the UK, 30mph.

Acceleration even remotely approaching "sloth-like" also causes it
to kick
out of ZEV mode.

The Prius accelerates very well indeed.

Compared to what, a milk-float?

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"Adrian" wrote in message
. 245.131...
Doctor Drivel ) gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying :

Acceleration even remotely approaching "sloth-like" also causes it to
kick out of ZEV mode.

The Prius accelerates very well indeed.

No, it doesn't.

Again..."The Prius accelerates very well indeed."

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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ews.net,
Doctor Drivel wrote:
Acceleration even remotely approaching "sloth-like" also causes it to
kick out of ZEV mode.

The Prius accelerates very well indeed.

It

Please eff off you are a worthless troll.

[OT] Prius bashing
 

":Jerry:" wrote in message
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Roger ) gurgled happily, sounding much like
they
were saying :

According to Wikipedia the top speed on electricity only is a mere 42
mph.

In the UK, 30mph.

Acceleration even remotely approaching "sloth-like" also causes it to
kick
out of ZEV mode.

The Prius accelerates very well indeed.

Compared

This man is a plantpot.

[OT] Prius bashing
 

Doctor Drivel ) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying :

Acceleration even remotely approaching "sloth-like" also causes it to
kick out of ZEV mode.

The Prius accelerates very well indeed.

No, it doesn't.

Again..."The Prius accelerates very well indeed."

Again, no, it doesn't.

I've driven one, remember.

[OT] Prius bashing
 

"Adrian" wrote in message
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Doctor Drivel ) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying :

Acceleration even remotely approaching "sloth-like" also causes it to
kick out of ZEV mode.

The Prius accelerates very well indeed.

No, it doesn't.

Again..."The Prius accelerates very well indeed."

Again,

Please stop telling lies.