Hi chaps
does anyone know of a supplier of half round black guttering angles
where the internal angle is about 150 degrees? all the sheds and
builders merchants do is the 135 deg angle stuff, which is too small an
angle to fit for bay windows.

The only thing I've found is an adjustable angle thing at screwfix but
they're £20 each!!!!

Any ideas?

dedics

"Ian & Hilda Dedic" wrote in message
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Hi chaps
does anyone know of a supplier of half round black guttering angles
where the internal angle is about 150 degrees? all the sheds and
builders merchants do is the 135 deg angle stuff, which is too small
an
angle to fit for bay windows.

The only thing I've found is an adjustable angle thing at screwfix but
they're £20 each!!!!

Any ideas?

dedics

Where I have two buildings meeting at about 200 degrees I sucessfully
mitred two short lengths of gutter, glued them with pvc cement, and
used normal joiners. Was a bit of a fiddle involving the use of a band
saw.

AWEM

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from Ian & Hilda Dedic contains these words:

does anyone know of a supplier of half round black guttering angles
where the internal angle is about 150 degrees? all the sheds and
builders merchants do is the 135 deg angle stuff, which is too small an
angle to fit for bay windows.

The only thing I've found is an adjustable angle thing at screwfix but
they're £20 each!!!!

Any ideas?

Polypipe do (did anyway) fabricated angles but if you don't like the
Screwfix price you will be appalled by the cost. I have a 3 year old
catalogue and the cost there is £22.85 plus vat for half round.

--
Roger Chapman

Ian & Hilda Dedic wrote:
Hi chaps
does anyone know of a supplier of half round black guttering angles
where the internal angle is about 150 degrees? all the sheds and
builders merchants do is the 135 deg angle stuff, which is too small an
angle to fit for bay windows.

The only thing I've found is an adjustable angle thing at screwfix but
they're £20 each!!!!

Any ideas?

dedics




I think three sided bays are 135 degs

Stuart Noble wrote:
Ian & Hilda Dedic wrote:
Hi chaps
does anyone know of a supplier of half round black guttering angles
where the internal angle is about 150 degrees? all the sheds and
builders merchants do is the 135 deg angle stuff, which is too small
an angle to fit for bay windows.

The only thing I've found is an adjustable angle thing at screwfix but
they're £20 each!!!!

Any ideas?

dedics




I think three sided bays are 135 degs
They can be any angle the builder decided to make them between 0 and 180...

The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Stuart Noble wrote:
Ian & Hilda Dedic wrote:
Hi chaps
does anyone know of a supplier of half round black guttering angles
where the internal angle is about 150 degrees? all the sheds and
builders merchants do is the 135 deg angle stuff, which is too small
an angle to fit for bay windows.

The only thing I've found is an adjustable angle thing at screwfix
but they're £20 each!!!!

Any ideas?

dedics




I think three sided bays are 135 degs
They can be any angle the builder decided to make them between 0 and 180...

A 180 bay would be interesting

Stuart Noble wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Stuart Noble wrote:
Ian & Hilda Dedic wrote:
Hi chaps
does anyone know of a supplier of half round black guttering angles
where the internal angle is about 150 degrees? all the sheds and
builders merchants do is the 135 deg angle stuff, which is too small
an angle to fit for bay windows.

The only thing I've found is an adjustable angle thing at screwfix
but they're £20 each!!!!

Any ideas?

dedics




I think three sided bays are 135 degs
They can be any angle the builder decided to make them between 0 and
180...

A 180 bay would be interesting

*between*

Obviously as the angles *tend to* 0 and 180, the bay shape gets pretty
unrealistic .Nevertheless it is *possibible*

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
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Stuart Noble wrote:
Ian & Hilda Dedic wrote:
Hi chaps
does anyone know of a supplier of half round black guttering angles
where the internal angle is about 150 degrees? all the sheds and
builders merchants do is the 135 deg angle stuff, which is too small an
angle to fit for bay windows.

The only thing I've found is an adjustable angle thing at screwfix but
they're £20 each!!!!

Any ideas?

dedics




I think three sided bays are 135 degs
They can be any angle the builder decided to make them between 0 and
180...

To be pedantic between 90 and 180 (assuming the centre bay isn't larger than
the opening!). It is generally pleasing for the side bays to separate from
the wall at 45deg (easier to mark out as well), making gutter angles all
135deg. 60deg for the leaving wall might not be unusual (giving 150deg
gutters) aside from the fact you can't get gutters, I suspect! Was it built
originally without gutters perchance?


--
Bob Mannix
(anti-spam is as easy as 1-2-3 - not)

Bob Mannix wrote:
"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
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Stuart Noble wrote:
Ian & Hilda Dedic wrote:
Hi chaps
does anyone know of a supplier of half round black guttering angles
where the internal angle is about 150 degrees? all the sheds and
builders merchants do is the 135 deg angle stuff, which is too small an
angle to fit for bay windows.

The only thing I've found is an adjustable angle thing at screwfix but
they're £20 each!!!!

Any ideas?

dedics



I think three sided bays are 135 degs
They can be any angle the builder decided to make them between 0 and
180...

To be pedantic between 90 and 180 (assuming the centre bay isn't larger than
the opening!).

I didn't assume that. :-)

It is generally pleasing for the side bays to separate from
the wall at 45deg (easier to mark out as well), making gutter angles all
135deg. 60deg for the leaving wall might not be unusual (giving 150deg
gutters) aside from the fact you can't get gutters, I suspect! Was it built
originally without gutters perchance?


Its easy enough to glue tow sections of gutter together with plastic
weld. Its just D-I-Y rather than B-&-Q...

Bob Mannix wrote:
"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
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Stuart Noble wrote:
Ian & Hilda Dedic wrote:
Hi chaps
does anyone know of a supplier of half round black guttering angles
where the internal angle is about 150 degrees? all the sheds and
builders merchants do is the 135 deg angle stuff, which is too small an
angle to fit for bay windows.

The only thing I've found is an adjustable angle thing at screwfix but
they're £20 each!!!!

Any ideas?

dedics



I think three sided bays are 135 degs
They can be any angle the builder decided to make them between 0 and
180...

To be pedantic between 90 and 180 (assuming the centre bay isn't larger than
the opening!). It is generally pleasing for the side bays to separate from
the wall at 45deg (easier to mark out as well), making gutter angles all
135deg. 60deg for the leaving wall might not be unusual (giving 150deg
gutters) aside from the fact you can't get gutters, I suspect! Was it built
originally without gutters perchance?


I don't know, but these last few days we've certainly needed them.....

dedics

On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 13:06:04 +0100, Ian & Hilda Dedic wrote:

Bob Mannix wrote:
"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
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Stuart Noble wrote:
Ian & Hilda Dedic wrote:
Hi chaps
does anyone know of a supplier of half round black guttering angles
where the internal angle is about 150 degrees? all the sheds and
builders merchants do is the 135 deg angle stuff, which is too small
an angle to fit for bay windows.

The only thing I've found is an adjustable angle thing at screwfix
but they're £20 each!!!!

Any ideas?

dedics



I think three sided bays are 135 degs
They can be any angle the builder decided to make them between 0 and
180...

To be pedantic between 90 and 180 (assuming the centre bay isn't larger
than the opening!). It is generally pleasing for the side bays to
separate from the wall at 45deg (easier to mark out as well), making
gutter angles all 135deg. 60deg for the leaving wall might not be
unusual (giving 150deg gutters) aside from the fact you can't get
gutters, I suspect! Was it built originally without gutters perchance?


I don't know, but these last few days we've certainly needed them.....

dedics

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But you might not need it again for another 100 years.

Adding a gutter and downpipe might actually exacerbate the problem since
all the run-off would be concentrated into a 3" downpipe which might
overflow in storm conditions with possible damage to an adjacent wall. The
people who designed your house probably knew that a bay window is best
without a gutter. Save yourself some money and enjoy the stormy weather
when it appears.

Cic.

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Using Ubuntu Linux
Windows shown the door
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Stuart Noble wrote:
Ian & Hilda Dedic wrote:
Hi chaps
does anyone know of a supplier of half round black guttering angles
where the internal angle is about 150 degrees? all the sheds and
builders merchants do is the 135 deg angle stuff, which is too small
an angle to fit for bay windows.

The only thing I've found is an adjustable angle thing at screwfix but
they're £20 each!!!!

Any ideas?

dedics




I think three sided bays are 135 degs


yes, but we've got 5 sided bays, that's why we have a problem.

Ian & Hilda Dedic wrote:
Stuart Noble wrote:
Ian & Hilda Dedic wrote:
Hi chaps
does anyone know of a supplier of half round black guttering angles
where the internal angle is about 150 degrees? all the sheds and
builders merchants do is the 135 deg angle stuff, which is too small
an angle to fit for bay windows.

The only thing I've found is an adjustable angle thing at screwfix
but they're £20 each!!!!

Any ideas?

dedics




I think three sided bays are 135 degs


yes, but we've got 5 sided bays, that's why we have a problem.

And presumably the first section isn't at 90 degs to the wall.

Stuart Noble wrote:
Ian & Hilda Dedic wrote:
Stuart Noble wrote:
Ian & Hilda Dedic wrote:
Hi chaps
does anyone know of a supplier of half round black guttering angles
where the internal angle is about 150 degrees? all the sheds and
builders merchants do is the 135 deg angle stuff, which is too small
an angle to fit for bay windows.

The only thing I've found is an adjustable angle thing at screwfix
but they're £20 each!!!!

Any ideas?

dedics




I think three sided bays are 135 degs


yes, but we've got 5 sided bays, that's why we have a problem.

And presumably the first section isn't at 90 degs to the wall.


correct.

the guttering has always been there but tends to leak at the joins
because of stress because you cant get the angle right with the
prefabricated fixed angles.

dedics

Ian & Hilda Dedic wrote:
Stuart Noble wrote:
Ian & Hilda Dedic wrote:
Stuart Noble wrote:
Ian & Hilda Dedic wrote:
Hi chaps
does anyone know of a supplier of half round black guttering angles
where the internal angle is about 150 degrees? all the sheds and
builders merchants do is the 135 deg angle stuff, which is too
small an angle to fit for bay windows.

The only thing I've found is an adjustable angle thing at screwfix
but they're £20 each!!!!

Any ideas?

dedics




I think three sided bays are 135 degs


yes, but we've got 5 sided bays, that's why we have a problem.

And presumably the first section isn't at 90 degs to the wall.


correct.

the guttering has always been there but tends to leak at the joins
because of stress because you cant get the angle right with the
prefabricated fixed angles.

dedics



Well, I guess you're stuck with the Screwfix option, which has to be
cheaper than having it made, plus you don't need to know the precise angle.
The standard bay is 3 sides of an octagon but I've no idea what the 5
sided is based on. Might be handy to know that if you were getting a quote