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Silca Gel (again)
Any idea of the optimum temperature for moisture adsorbtion using silica
gel? I'd like to dry out some delicate stuff ( a camera) and I'm guessing a moderate temperature increase will drive the moisture off more quickly but it's no use if the silica gel I'm packing around it fails to take it up. -- fred Plusnet - I hope you like vanilla |
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"fred" wrote in message ... Any idea of the optimum temperature for moisture adsorbtion using silica gel? I'd like to dry out some delicate stuff ( a camera) and I'm guessing a moderate temperature increase will drive the moisture off more quickly but it's no use if the silica gel I'm packing around it fails to take it up. AFAIK room temp will suffice. Although a slightly higher drier heat will allow better evap' |
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On 3 Jun, 15:37, fred wrote:
Any idea of the optimum temperature for moisture adsorbtion using silica gel? I'd like to dry out some delicate stuff ( a camera) and I'm guessing a moderate temperature increase will drive the moisture off more quickly but it's no use if the silica gel I'm packing around it fails to take it up. the hotter the faster NT |
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fred wrote
I've got a few packs dried out ready to start tonight. (at the risk of being flamed for not paying attention, but I haven't spotted the other thread, and my newsfeed has been quite erratic for a couple of days so tracking stuff has been not so easy ...) How does one go about drying the packs? -- Roger Hunt |
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Put it in a warm oven for about half an hour
Sam Farrell "Roger Hunt" wrote in message ... fred wrote I've got a few packs dried out ready to start tonight. (at the risk of being flamed for not paying attention, but I haven't spotted the other thread, and my newsfeed has been quite erratic for a couple of days so tracking stuff has been not so easy ...) How does one go about drying the packs? -- Roger Hunt |
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Sam Farrell wrote
How does one go about drying the packs? -- Put it in a warm oven for about half an hour Oh! Easy-peasy. Thanks. -- Roger Hunt |
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Silca Gel (again)
On 3 Jun, 21:50, fred wrote:
In article . com, writesOn 3 Jun, 15:37, fred wrote: Any idea of the optimum temperature for moisture adsorbtion using silica gel? I'd like to dry out some delicate stuff ( a camera) and I'm guessing a moderate temperature increase will drive the moisture off more quickly but it's no use if the silica gel I'm packing around it fails to take it up. the hotter the faster That's what I was thinking but I didn't want to get into the zone where it ceases adsorbing and starts releasing. I'm unlikely to want to take the camera above 50deg C. If you go that high you wont need the gel in the first place, the heat alone will boil the water away. Youre limited in practice by what the camera is ok with. NT |
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In article , Roger Hunt
writes fred wrote I've got a few packs dried out ready to start tonight. (at the risk of being flamed for not paying attention, but I haven't spotted the other thread, and my newsfeed has been quite erratic for a couple of days so tracking stuff has been not so easy ...) Lots of old threads on google groups: http://preview.tinyurl.com/yu2vd5 or http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?as...ng=d&hl=en&as_ epq=silica+gel&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_ugroup=uk.d-i-y&as_usubject=&as_u authors=&lr=&as_drrb=q&as_qdr=&as_mind=1&as_minm=1 &as_miny=19 81&as_maxd=5&as_maxm=6&as_maxy=2007&safe=off How does one go about drying the packs? C'mon, that's the easy bit to find ;-). In theory you can go up to hundreds of degrees for proper non-indicating Silica Gel but the pack material will burst into flames. Indicating (colour change on adsorbtion) should be dried at 120 to 150 deg C to avoid damaging the indicator. Mine is good quality non-indicating stuff and I dried it at 130 deg C in a fan oven for a few hours but was disappointed to find the packs discolouring (to brown) so I would recommend keeping the temp a bit lower, perhaps 120 or less. What is more difficult to find is the temp at which they stop adsorbing and start drying themselves. This would let you dry stuff at an optimum temperature but I have yet to find this level of detail. In the end I've given up on the Silica Gel route and am drying the camera by blowing warm filtered air into the open orifices. -- fred Plusnet - I hope you like vanilla |
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Silca Gel (again)
fred wrote
In article , Roger Hunt writes fred wrote I've got a few packs dried out ready to start tonight. (at the risk of being flamed for not paying attention, but I haven't spotted the other thread, and my newsfeed has been quite erratic for a couple of days so tracking stuff has been not so easy ...) Lots of old threads on google groups: http://preview.tinyurl.com/yu2vd5 or http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?as...ng=d&hl=en&as_ epq=silica+gel&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_ugroup=uk.d-i-y&as_usubject=&as_u authors=&lr=&as_drrb=q&as_qdr=&as_mind=1&as_minm= 1&as_miny=19 81&as_maxd=5&as_maxm=6&as_maxy=2007&safe=off Thank you - a very gentle flame indeed. I deserved worse. How does one go about drying the packs? C'mon, that's the easy bit to find ;-). I'm just about to look, if the electricity supply lets me. There have been six brown-outs in the last twenty minutes and each time the bloody system switches itself off just as I'm finishing this message. It's infuriating! In the end I've given up on the Silica Gel route and am drying the camera by blowing warm filtered air into the open orifices. Best of luck with that. (I recently purchased at auction a rather grubby Pentax MX, but after Hoovering out the sawdust(!) and cleaning the muck off (bird****?), it seems in very good nick.) -- Roger Hunt |
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In article , Roger Hunt
writes fred wrote In article , Roger Hunt writes fred wrote I've got a few packs dried out ready to start tonight. (at the risk of being flamed for not paying attention, but I haven't spotted the other thread, and my newsfeed has been quite erratic for a couple of days so tracking stuff has been not so easy ...) Lots of old threads on google groups: http://preview.tinyurl.com/yu2vd5 Thank you - a very gentle flame indeed. I deserved worse. No flame intended or deserved. How does one go about drying the packs? C'mon, that's the easy bit to find ;-). I'm just about to look, if the electricity supply lets me. There have been six brown-outs in the last twenty minutes and each time the bloody system switches itself off just as I'm finishing this message. It's infuriating! Ah, presumably you're in the sticks, although I've never had need of one perhaps you could do with a UPS (Uninterruptable Power Supply), alternatively a loan of a transient logger could persuade your leccy supplier to sort out your supply (a poor joint on an local overhead perhaps?). In the end I've given up on the Silica Gel route and am drying the camera by blowing warm filtered air into the open orifices. Best of luck with that. (I recently purchased at auction a rather grubby Pentax MX, but after Hoovering out the sawdust(!) and cleaning the muck off (bird****?), it seems in very good nick.) Thanks, I'll give it a few days of drying unpowered but this is modern ultra compact digital muck and they just can't handle a bit of (minor) abuse, I'm not optimistic. -- fred Plusnet - I hope you like vanilla |
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fred wrote
In article , Roger Hunt writes There have been six brown-outs in the last twenty minutes and each time the bloody system switches itself off just as I'm finishing this message. It's infuriating! Ah, presumably you're in the sticks, Forest of Dean, and I don't mind at all - I have wall sconces and candles and stoves and an open fire, so there is no suffering involved. although I've never had need of one perhaps you could do with a UPS (Uninterruptable Power Supply), alternatively a loan of a transient logger could persuade your leccy supplier to sort out your supply (a poor joint on an local overhead perhaps?). I was given a link to a most interesting flywheel powered ups, in uk.rec.sheds .... http://www.genpropower.com/powerware_pf2_flywheel.htm In the end I've given up on the Silica Gel route and am drying the camera by blowing warm filtered air into the open orifices. Best of luck with that. (I recently purchased at auction a rather grubby Pentax MX, but after Hoovering out the sawdust(!) and cleaning the muck off (bird****?), it seems in very good nick.) Thanks, I'll give it a few days of drying unpowered but this is modern ultra compact digital muck and they just can't handle a bit of (minor) abuse, I'm not optimistic. Look on the bright side - as capitalist consumers it is our duty to chuck these things away immediately and support the economy by going into debt to buy another, better, camera. Repairing things harms the economy by reducing cash-flow, and done deliberately is nothing less than antisocial and even subversive. -- Roger Hunt |
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