No more filament bulbs
 

David Hansen wrote:

However, low powered dusk to dawn lights are better at
deterring criminals.

They might be a better deterrent but not necessarily a sound environmental
solution. The 60W PIR light outside our door is on for about 2 to 3 minutes
at a time every hour or so. To satisfy the environmentalists I'll have to
replace it with a 11W CFL running continuously for several hours per night.
I suppose it makes sense to the politicians.

--
Mike Clarke

No more filament bulbs
 

On 2007-03-17 22:52:17 +0000, Mike Clarke said:

David Hansen wrote:

However, low powered dusk to dawn lights are better at
deterring criminals.

They might be a better deterrent but not necessarily a sound environmental
solution. The 60W PIR light outside our door is on for about 2 to 3 minutes
at a time every hour or so. To satisfy the environmentalists I'll have to
replace it with a 11W CFL running continuously for several hours per night.
I suppose it makes sense to the politicians.

Of course.

It will come in a plastic blister pack because it's a high priced item,
whereas the filament bulb will come in a cardboard box.

No more filament bulbs
 

On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:17:26 +0000 someone who may be John Rumm
wrote this:-

Can you recommend one that will cope with short illumination periods,
give 100% output from switch on, and work down to -10 dec C?

In what location do you have lamps at -10C?


--
David Hansen, Edinburgh
I will *always* explain revoked encryption keys, unless RIP prevents me
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000/00023--e.htm#54

No more filament bulbs
 

On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 20:22:50 -0000 someone who may be "Mary Fisher"
wrote this:-

concerned about candle bulbs.

Noting in
http://www.lightbulbs-direct.com/var...t.asp?Prod=105 that
suits?


--
David Hansen, Edinburgh
I will *always* explain revoked encryption keys, unless RIP prevents me
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000/00023--e.htm#54

No more filament bulbs
 

"David Hansen" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:17:26 +0000 someone who may be John Rumm
wrote this:-

Can you recommend one that will cope with short illumination periods,
give 100% output from switch on, and work down to -10 dec C?

In what location do you have lamps at -10C?

Above my front door - but only when it's -10 outside.

Jim A

No more filament bulbs
 

David Hansen wrote:
On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:17:26 +0000 someone who may be John Rumm
wrote this:-

Can you recommend one that will cope with short illumination periods,
give 100% output from switch on, and work down to -10 dec C?

In what location do you have lamps at -10C?

My fridge...

or outside in the winter some days (of half the year in some countries)

--
Cheers,

John.

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No more filament bulbs
 

"David Hansen" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 20:22:50 -0000 someone who may be "Mary Fisher"
wrote this:-

concerned about candle bulbs.

Noting in
http://www.lightbulbs-direct.com/var...t.asp?Prod=105 that
suits?

er - I implied that I wasn't worried about them :-)

The existing ones don't look like candles ...

Mary

No more filament bulbs
 

"John" wrote in message
...

I am very happy to try and recycle, to save energy, to use timeswitches,
but why force me to use a bulb which "probably" costs more energy to
make AND recycle than a cheapo one?

What makes you think that?

If it's true, how much more energy does it take?

Mary

No more filament bulbs
 

"Steve Walker" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 07:42:32 +0000, David Hansen wrote:


....

Very inefficient. Dimmed bulbs consume nearly as much electricity as
undimmed ones.

But they do allow you to vary the lighting depending upon your
requirements
of the moment, such as when entering our children's bedroom when one of
them wakes at night and only putting on a dim light, enough to see by,
without waking the other child or for mood lighting.

Mood lighting?

Mary

No more filament bulbs
 

"Mike Barnes" wrote in message
...

My guess is that a future phasing-out of incandescent lamps will start
with standard BS/ES fittings, where the vast bulk of the savings are to
be made, and the more esoteric types will follow quite some time later.

Yes, but that sounds like The Voice of Reason ... you can't expect folk to
agree with it. They'll say you've been got at, brainwashed by the Green
Police or somesuch :-)

Mary

No more filament bulbs
 

David Hansen wrote:
On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:17:26 +0000 someone who may be John Rumm
wrote this:-

Can you recommend one that will cope with short illumination periods,
give 100% output from switch on, and work down to -10 dec C?

In what location do you have lamps at -10C?


Its very possible for outside lights in this country.

I've seen -15C on occasions.

No more filament bulbs
 

David Hansen wrote:
On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 20:22:50 -0000 someone who may be "Mary Fisher"
wrote this:-

concerned about candle bulbs.

Noting in
http://www.lightbulbs-direct.com/var...t.asp?Prod=105 that
suits?


Fabulous. When my existing stock of bulbs runs out, those go in the non
dimmable holders..

No more filament bulbs
 

Mary Fisher wrote:
"Steve Walker" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 07:42:32 +0000, David Hansen wrote:


...
Very inefficient. Dimmed bulbs consume nearly as much electricity as
undimmed ones.
But they do allow you to vary the lighting depending upon your
requirements
of the moment, such as when entering our children's bedroom when one of
them wakes at night and only putting on a dim light, enough to see by,
without waking the other child or for mood lighting.

Mood lighting?

As in 'lighting that puts you in a bad mood'

Mary

No more filament bulbs
 

On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 17:29:42 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:

David Hansen wrote:
On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:17:26 +0000 someone who may be John Rumm
wrote this:-

Can you recommend one that will cope with short illumination periods,
give 100% output from switch on, and work down to -10 dec C?

In what location do you have lamps at -10C?


Its very possible for outside lights in this country.

I've seen -15C on occasions.

I encountered -20c for several nights on the run once.

My car had been in for a repair and had been refilled without enough
antifreeze in the coolant and would freeze up and overheat if driven
over about 35 mph, I had to blank off the radiator grille and bonnet
top with a piece of carpet.

DG