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robgraham March 8th 07 05:38 PM

Dead beech tree
 
Yes I know this is possibly a bit OT, but DIY'ing one's own logs makes
it OK ... I think.

Anyway I noticed late last summer that a beech tree nearby had
suddenly gone brown - all the leaves had died. So I mentally marked
it for a request to the local farmer for permission to fell it this
year for logs. The 'felling' part has proved to be unnecessary as
nature has brought it down for me - the farmer is now complaining of
course as it damaged his fencing.

What puzzles me is that the tree appears to have died from the roots
up in that there is really very little root ball and the roots have
broken off pretty close to the bole. The tree is mature (30 inch
diameter) but there's no rot. It could have been caused by the dry
summer but there is a burn close by.

Anybody got an explanation as I would have expected the dead tree to
have stood for some time before falling and there to be significant
ground damage when it did come down.

Rob


R March 8th 07 07:31 PM

Dead beech tree
 

"robgraham" wrote in message
oups.com...
Yes I know this is possibly a bit OT, but DIY'ing one's own logs makes
it OK ... I think.

Anyway I noticed late last summer that a beech tree nearby had
suddenly gone brown - all the leaves had died. So I mentally marked
it for a request to the local farmer for permission to fell it this
year for logs. The 'felling' part has proved to be unnecessary as
nature has brought it down for me - the farmer is now complaining of
course as it damaged his fencing.

What puzzles me is that the tree appears to have died from the roots
up in that there is really very little root ball and the roots have
broken off pretty close to the bole. The tree is mature (30 inch
diameter) but there's no rot. It could have been caused by the dry
summer but there is a burn close by.

Anybody got an explanation as I would have expected the dead tree to
have stood for some time before falling and there to be significant
ground damage when it did come down.



Does it look like it had
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robgraham March 8th 07 08:29 PM

Dead beech tree
 
On 8 Mar, 19:31, "R" wrote:
"robgraham" wrote in message

oups.com...



Yes I know this is possibly a bit OT, but DIY'ing one's own logs makes
it OK ... I think.


Anyway I noticed late last summer that a beech tree nearby had
suddenly gone brown - all the leaves had died. So I mentally marked
it for a request to the local farmer for permission to fell it this
year for logs. The 'felling' part has proved to be unnecessary as
nature has brought it down for me - the farmer is now complaining of
course as it damaged his fencing.


What puzzles me is that the tree appears to have died from the roots
up in that there is really very little root ball and the roots have
broken off pretty close to the bole. The tree is mature (30 inch
diameter) but there's no rot. It could have been caused by the dry
summer but there is a burn close by.


Anybody got an explanation as I would have expected the dead tree to
have stood for some time before falling and there to be significant
ground damage when it did come down.


Does it look like it hadhttp://tinyurl.com/3ymrx3


I don't remember seeing anything like that last year when the tree was
standing and I wasn't aware of anything when I was logging this
afternoon, but it might well be that such lesions will have
disappeared once the tree died. It does have a canker on it which is
more like a elm burr which I'll investigate for turning.

I've been onto the Forestry Commission website and they have a contact
number for this condition - fortunately I live only half a dozen miles
out of Edinburgh so should be able to get an answer quickly.

Thanks for answering - pretty unlikely it is this I suspect but at
least I'll get a professional answer on why the tree did die so
quickly. Can't see this pleasing the farmer either !.

Rob


The Natural Philosopher March 10th 07 12:27 PM

Dead beech tree
 
robgraham wrote:
Yes I know this is possibly a bit OT, but DIY'ing one's own logs makes
it OK ... I think.

Anyway I noticed late last summer that a beech tree nearby had
suddenly gone brown - all the leaves had died. So I mentally marked
it for a request to the local farmer for permission to fell it this
year for logs. The 'felling' part has proved to be unnecessary as
nature has brought it down for me - the farmer is now complaining of
course as it damaged his fencing.

What puzzles me is that the tree appears to have died from the roots
up in that there is really very little root ball and the roots have
broken off pretty close to the bole. The tree is mature (30 inch
diameter) but there's no rot. It could have been caused by the dry
summer but there is a burn close by.

Anybody got an explanation as I would have expected the dead tree to
have stood for some time before falling and there to be significant
ground damage when it did come down.

Rob

Could be fungal, could be lightning strike.

We walk the woods pretty regularly. Loads of trees that have fungal
attack simply snap off at the base..

Or as you have, the lateral roots have gone and it just uproots.

Its good firewood, is beech.



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