Hi I have an original Victorian cast iron bedroom fire surround, which was
sent to me in the post. Un unfortunately it was damage in transit, both of
the legs have cracked off where the legs join the top part of the fireplace.
It's just a beautiful fireplace it would be a shame to throw it away. Can
someone recommends the best and strongest glue for this type of repair. I'm
not worried how much it cost just as long as it does the best possible job.
The fireplace is about 110/120 years old, I almost cried when I opened it
this morning, It was sent to me by a friend and wasn't insured
:-((((((((((((

Many thanks in advance
Jan

On 6 Mar, 10:40, "Jan" wrote:
Hi I have an original Victorian cast iron bedroom fire surround, which was
sent to me in the post. Un unfortunately it was damage in transit, both of
the legs have cracked off where the legs join the top part of the fireplace.
It's just a beautiful fireplace it would be a shame to throw it away. Can
someone recommends the best and strongest glue for this type of repair. I'm
not worried how much it cost just as long as it does the best possible job.
The fireplace is about 110/120 years old, I almost cried when I opened it
this morning, It was sent to me by a friend and wasn't insured
:-((((((((((((

Many thanks in advance
Jan

If you are not going to put it near a heat source I suggest Araldite
as being the best. You could also get it repaired by going to a
welding specialist. They would probably have to grind down the surface
of the weld and you may have to disguise that area.

On 6 Mar 2007 03:10:31 -0800, "Merryterry" wrote:

On 6 Mar, 10:40, "Jan" wrote:
Hi I have an original Victorian cast iron bedroom fire surround, which was
sent to me in the post. Un unfortunately it was damage in transit, both of
the legs have cracked off where the legs join the top part of the fireplace.
It's just a beautiful fireplace it would be a shame to throw it away. Can
someone recommends the best and strongest glue for this type of repair. I'm
not worried how much it cost just as long as it does the best possible job.
The fireplace is about 110/120 years old, I almost cried when I opened it
this morning, It was sent to me by a friend and wasn't insured
:-((((((((((((

Many thanks in advance
Jan

If you are not going to put it near a heat source I suggest Araldite
as being the best. You could also get it repaired by going to a
welding specialist. They would probably have to grind down the surface
of the weld and you may have to disguise that area.

JB Weld might do it, it's a sort of super-duper resin glue - and it's
suitably resistant to heat ( repaired a cracked flue above my Rayburn
with it...still holding strong years later ), though much depends on
how much load the joint is expected to take.
The best possible job would be a professional repair.

Regards,



--
Stephen Howard - Woodwind repairs & period restorations
www.shwoodwind.co.uk
Emails to: showard{whoisat}shwoodwind{dot}co{dot}uk

On 6 Mar, 10:40, "Jan" wrote:
Hi I have an original Victorian cast iron bedroom fire surround, which was
sent to me in the post. Un unfortunately it was damage in transit, both of
the legs have cracked off where the legs join the top part of the fireplace.
It's just a beautiful fireplace it would be a shame to throw it away. Can
someone recommends the best and strongest glue for this type of repair. I'm
not worried how much it cost just as long as it does the best possible job.
The fireplace is about 110/120 years old, I almost cried when I opened it
this morning, It was sent to me by a friend and wasn't insured
:-((((((((((((

Many thanks in advance
Jan

Similar thing happened to me - spent an entire weekend (literally)
with a power drill and wire-brush attachments removing the paint from
a cast iron fireplace and buffed it back to its original condition. As
the fireplace was leant up against my wall outside with me supping tea
admiring it a sudden freak gust of wind came from nowhere and blew the
bloody thing over! Oh how I laughed...

Of course it whacked down on a sticking-out bit and put some pretty
severe cracks in it. The legs didn't snap off but it was close.

Absolutely fretting I looked round for what might work and gave
'Chemical Metal' a go:

http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/pro.jsp?&id=23269

Superb stuff - does exactly what it says on the ..err.. tube. Easy to
work with, sticky as anything, and as hard as nails once cured. The
fireplace in my case was purely for decorative purposes and so I also
'glued' some battens along the backside of the legs for extra
strength. Did the job perfect.

Incidentally, if it's of any interest, following the repair I buffed
the entire lot with a Zebo-equivalent (www.realpaints.com made some
'isinglas with graphite' for me with no black pigment added - I wanted
a greyish finish) and it came up rather nice.

http://www.newtonnet.co.uk/house/20050417/
http://www.newtonnet.co.uk/house/200...s/IMG_4803.jpg

Mathew

Mathew Newton wrote:
On 6 Mar, 10:40, "Jan" wrote:
Hi I have an original Victorian cast iron bedroom fire surround, which was
sent to me in the post. Un unfortunately it was damage in transit, both of
the legs have cracked off where the legs join the top part of the fireplace.
It's just a beautiful fireplace it would be a shame to throw it away. Can
someone recommends the best and strongest glue for this type of repair. I'm
not worried how much it cost just as long as it does the best possible job.
The fireplace is about 110/120 years old, I almost cried when I opened it
this morning, It was sent to me by a friend and wasn't insured
:-((((((((((((

Many thanks in advance
Jan

Similar thing happened to me - spent an entire weekend (literally)
with a power drill and wire-brush attachments removing the paint from
a cast iron fireplace and buffed it back to its original condition. As
the fireplace was leant up against my wall outside with me supping tea
admiring it a sudden freak gust of wind came from nowhere and blew the
bloody thing over! Oh how I laughed...

Of course it whacked down on a sticking-out bit and put some pretty
severe cracks in it. The legs didn't snap off but it was close.

Absolutely fretting I looked round for what might work and gave
'Chemical Metal' a go:

http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/pro.jsp?&id=23269

Superb stuff - does exactly what it says on the ..err.. tube. Easy to
work with, sticky as anything, and as hard as nails once cured. The
fireplace in my case was purely for decorative purposes and so I also
'glued' some battens along the backside of the legs for extra
strength. Did the job perfect.

Incidentally, if it's of any interest, following the repair I buffed
the entire lot with a Zebo-equivalent (www.realpaints.com made some
'isinglas with graphite' for me with no black pigment added - I wanted
a greyish finish) and it came up rather nice.

http://www.newtonnet.co.uk/house/20050417/
http://www.newtonnet.co.uk/house/200...s/IMG_4803.jpg

Mathew



yes, chemical metal, possibly in conjunction with glass fibre cloth
an/or some perforated sheet will hold stuff like that together. A visit
to Halfords will net you what you need.

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On 6 Mar, 10:40, "Jan" wrote:
Hi I have an original Victorian cast iron bedroom fire surround, which
was
sent to me in the post. Un unfortunately it was damage in transit, both
of
the legs have cracked off where the legs join the top part of the
fireplace.
It's just a beautiful fireplace it would be a shame to throw it away. Can
someone recommends the best and strongest glue for this type of repair.
I'm
not worried how much it cost just as long as it does the best possible
job.
The fireplace is about 110/120 years old, I almost cried when I opened it
this morning, It was sent to me by a friend and wasn't insured
:-((((((((((((

Many thanks in advance
Jan

Similar thing happened to me - spent an entire weekend (literally)
with a power drill and wire-brush attachments removing the paint from
a cast iron fireplace and buffed it back to its original condition. As
the fireplace was leant up against my wall outside with me supping tea
admiring it a sudden freak gust of wind came from nowhere and blew the
bloody thing over! Oh how I laughed...

Of course it whacked down on a sticking-out bit and put some pretty
severe cracks in it. The legs didn't snap off but it was close.

Absolutely fretting I looked round for what might work and gave
'Chemical Metal' a go:

http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/pro.jsp?&id=23269

Superb stuff - does exactly what it says on the ..err.. tube. Easy to
work with, sticky as anything, and as hard as nails once cured. The
fireplace in my case was purely for decorative purposes and so I also
'glued' some battens along the backside of the legs for extra
strength. Did the job perfect.

Incidentally, if it's of any interest, following the repair I buffed
the entire lot with a Zebo-equivalent (www.realpaints.com made some
'isinglas with graphite' for me with no black pigment added - I wanted
a greyish finish) and it came up rather nice.

http://www.newtonnet.co.uk/house/20050417/
http://www.newtonnet.co.uk/house/200...s/IMG_4803.jpg


Thank for the advise, I'll follow it when I get the repaired done

The picture of the fireplace

http://i18.tinypic.com/49khszp.jpg

Jan

On 6 Mar, 12:49, "Jan" wrote:

Thank for the advise, I'll follow it when I get the repaired done

The picture of the fireplace

http://i18.tinypic.com/49khszp.jpg

Jan

Presumably before shipping...? ;-)

If there are any chunks missing you'll find Chemical Metal will also
serve to fill those in - put some sheeting behind the gap, fill it
proud, and grind/sand down to a flush finish. It's dark metal in
colour hence will be nicely disguised even with only a modest covering/
finish.

Mathew

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On 6 Mar, 12:49, "Jan" wrote:

Thank for the advise, I'll follow it when I get the repaired done

The picture of the fireplace

http://i18.tinypic.com/49khszp.jpg

Jan

Presumably before shipping...? ;-)

Yes :-(((((((((((((((((

If there are any chunks missing you'll find Chemical Metal will also
serve to fill those in - put some sheeting behind the gap, fill it
proud, and grind/sand down to a flush finish. It's dark metal in
colour hence will be nicely disguised even with only a modest covering/
finish.

Mathew


Thanks for that!

The fireplace stood for a 110 years, through two world wars, even Hitler
couldn't damage it, and it took parcel force a few hours to break it. Good
old parcel force ah, they shoud go into the demolition business.

Jan

On 6 Mar, 13:08, "Jan" wrote:
"Mathew Newton" wrote in message

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On 6 Mar, 12:49, "Jan" wrote:

Thank for the advise, I'll follow it when I get the repaired done

The picture of the fireplace

http://i18.tinypic.com/49khszp.jpg

Jan

Presumably before shipping...? ;-)

Yes :-(((((((((((((((((

If there are any chunks missing you'll find Chemical Metal will also

serve to fill those in - put some sheeting behind the gap, fill it
proud, and grind/sand down to a flush finish. It's dark metal in
colour hence will be nicely disguised even with only a modest covering/
finish.

Mathew

Thanks for that!

The fireplace stood for a 110 years, through two world wars, even Hitler
couldn't damage it, and it took parcel force a few hours to break it. Good
old parcel force ah, they shoud go into the demolition business.

Jan

LOL.. Nicely put!

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On 6 Mar, 13:08, "Jan" wrote:
"Mathew Newton" wrote in message

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On 6 Mar, 12:49, "Jan" wrote:

Thank for the advise, I'll follow it when I get the repaired
done

The picture of the fireplace

http://i18.tinypic.com/49khszp.jpg

Jan

Presumably before shipping...? ;-)

Yes :-(((((((((((((((((

If there are any chunks missing you'll find Chemical Metal will
also

serve to fill those in - put some sheeting behind the gap, fill
it
proud, and grind/sand down to a flush finish. It's dark metal in
colour hence will be nicely disguised even with only a modest
covering/
finish.

Mathew

Thanks for that!

The fireplace stood for a 110 years, through two world wars, even
Hitler
couldn't damage it, and it took parcel force a few hours to break
it. Good
old parcel force ah, they shoud go into the demolition business.

Jan

LOL.. Nicely put!


I think that is very unfair on Parcelforce. Cast Iron is by it's very
nature brittle. If the fireplace surround had been adequtely packed it
would not have broken. A conventional fire surround should be screwed
down onto a rigid thick board to prevent the uprights flexing relative
to the mantle, and then the board incorporated in a stout wooden crate
with suitable padding to prevent the weight of the item itself causing
problems as it moves. I cannot see how that could be done withing
Parcelforces weight limits. How was the item packed ??????? This is a
fragile antique, would you send an antique sideboard, for instance,
via a general carrier like Parcelforce or a specialist?????

AWEM

On 6 Mar, 14:03, "Andrew Mawson"
wrote:

This is a
fragile antique, would you send an antique sideboard, for instance,
via a general carrier like Parcelforce or a specialist?????

In all honesty I would not send anything by Parcelforce if I had any
reasonable choice about the matter.

Mathew

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On 6 Mar, 13:08, "Jan" wrote:
"Mathew Newton" wrote in message

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On 6 Mar, 12:49, "Jan" wrote:

Thank for the advise, I'll follow it when I get the repaired
done

The picture of the fireplace

http://i18.tinypic.com/49khszp.jpg

Jan

Presumably before shipping...? ;-)

Yes :-(((((((((((((((((

If there are any chunks missing you'll find Chemical Metal will
also

serve to fill those in - put some sheeting behind the gap, fill
it
proud, and grind/sand down to a flush finish. It's dark metal in
colour hence will be nicely disguised even with only a modest
covering/
finish.

Mathew

Thanks for that!

The fireplace stood for a 110 years, through two world wars, even
Hitler
couldn't damage it, and it took parcel force a few hours to break
it. Good
old parcel force ah, they shoud go into the demolition business.

Jan

LOL.. Nicely put!


I think that is very unfair on Parcelforce. Cast Iron is by it's very
nature brittle. If the fireplace surround had been adequtely packed it
would not have broken. A conventional fire surround should be screwed
down onto a rigid thick board to prevent the uprights flexing relative
to the mantle, and then the board incorporated in a stout wooden crate
with suitable padding to prevent the weight of the item itself causing
problems as it moves. I cannot see how that could be done withing
Parcelforces weight limits. How was the item packed ??????? This is a
fragile antique, would you send an antique sideboard, for instance,
via a general carrier like Parcelforce or a specialist?????

AWEM

It was very well packed with lots of padding but I didn't relise she was
going to send it by Parcelforce, otherwise I would have told her to go else
where. What she failed to do was to write Fragile all over the box, that's
something I would have done, so I suspect it's been thrown all over the
place. I've just been to B&Q and bought the metal glue that's been sugested
on here, so lets hope all goes well. Btw hubby said he's going to fix it as
he doesn't trust me to do it properly, the sod. )))

In message , Jan
writes

Thank for the advise, I'll follow it when I get the repaired done

The picture of the fireplace

http://i18.tinypic.com/49khszp.jpg

Jan

Presumably before shipping...? ;-)

Yes :-(((((((((((((((((

If there are any chunks missing you'll find Chemical Metal will also
serve to fill those in - put some sheeting behind the gap, fill it
proud, and grind/sand down to a flush finish. It's dark metal in
colour hence will be nicely disguised even with only a modest covering/
finish.

Mathew


Thanks for that!

The fireplace stood for a 110 years, through two world wars, even Hitler
couldn't damage it, and it took parcel force a few hours to break it. Good
old parcel force ah, they shoud go into the demolition business.

But then, ...

if it had been packaged adequately
--
geoff

On Tue, 06 Mar 2007 20:28:53 +0000, Owain
wrote:

|!Jan wrote:
|! ... What she failed to do was to write Fragile all over the box,
|!
|!That doesn't make any difference. Conveyor belts can't read.
|!
|!(Quite possibly, neither can some of the sorting office staff.)
|!
|!If you can't play rugby with it, it shouldn't go by post.

Which is what my grandfather, a postman, said in the 1920/30s.
--
Dave Fawthrop dave hyphenologist co uk Compare and contrast
Sharia Law http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharia
European Convention on Human Rights http://www.hri.org/docs/ECHR50.html
Then sign this petition http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/Ban-Sharia

On Mar 6, 8:28 pm, Owain wrote:
Jan wrote:
... What she failed to do was to write Fragile all over the box,

That doesn't make any difference. Conveyor belts can't read.

(Quite possibly, neither can some of the sorting office staff.)

If you can't play rugby with it, it shouldn't go by post.

Owain

What about a football? ;-)

Jan wrote:

It was very well packed with lots of padding but I didn't relise she was
going to send it by Parcelforce, otherwise I would have told her to go else
where. What she failed to do was to write Fragile all over the box, that's
something I would have done, so I suspect it's been thrown all over the
place. I've just been to B&Q and bought the metal glue that's been sugested
on here, so lets hope all goes well. Btw hubby said he's going to fix it as
he doesn't trust me to do it properly, the sod. )))




They just throw it harder when it says Fragile.

Gust of wind? - bet the cat did it!