OK the Vacuum Cleaner has seen better days and it seems pointless
faffing about repairing it with prices as they are.

Don't have any allergies or pets, and I don't shed hair either so as I
see it all I need is something that cleans carpets well, and is reliable.

I've done some digging and it seems the best regarded Vacuum cleaners
are Miele, Sebo, Nilfisk and Numatic.

At the moment I'm leaning towards Numatic as they seem "no-frills" and
pretty much every cleaner I've ever seen uses one so I assume they are
good Vacuums and don't break often?

So, which one, and where from?

Dixons list the Numatic Henry at £78 with free delivery, which seems too
good to be true from Dixons of all places, but I notice the spec states
"1000w" which makes me wonder if it's a previous model or just a simple
cock-up on their website?

Also what's the difference between their domestic and commercial ranges?
I'm looking at, say, the James and the NVP180. Both around £70, so
what's the difference as the NVP180 looks more powerful for similar
money?

TIA,
Paul

Paul Hutchings wrote:

Don't have any allergies or pets, and I don't shed hair either so as I
see it all I need is something that cleans carpets well, and is reliable.

At the moment I'm leaning towards Numatic as they seem "no-frills" and
pretty much every cleaner I've ever seen uses one so I assume they are
good Vacuums and don't break often?

We have a Numatic Henry - totally wonderful machines. Very powerful,
tough and reliable.

You'll notice they mention an "Airo" brush which adds quite a bit to the
price, and is particularly reccommended for long-haired-pet-households.
Definitely worth having even without pets; it enhances cleaning
ability no end.

Also what's the difference between their domestic and commercial ranges?
I'm looking at, say, the James and the NVP180. Both around £70, so
what's the difference as the NVP180 looks more powerful for similar
money?

Dunno. But in virtually every office I've ever worked at the cleaners
have used Henrys, so maybe that says something?

On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 11:59:13 +0000, Paul Hutchings wrote:

Don't have any allergies or pets, and I don't shed hair either

Oh you do but if it short it doesn't get tangled around things. Going by
your theory the only perosn in this house to shed hair is No.1 Daughter
as hers is the only hair that gets tangled in the vacum. She has hair
down to the small of her back everyone else has short hair, clear of
shoulders.

so as I see it all I need is something that cleans carpets well, and is
reliable.

None of those you mention have a rotating beater bar. IMHO the "beats, as
it sweeps, as it cleans" action does make difference to the amount of
effort you need to put in to get the same level of clean.

£78 inc VAT delivered is good for a Henry.

--
Cheers
Dave. pam is missing e-mail

We have a Numatic Henry - totally wonderful machines. Very powerful,
tough and reliable.

Out of interest, how noisy are they ? - the last vacuum cleaner we had
of that sort of design was an old aquavac and you needed bloody ear
defenders to use it !

Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 11:59:13 +0000, Paul Hutchings wrote:

Don't have any allergies or pets, and I don't shed hair either

Oh you do but if it short it doesn't get tangled around things. Going by
your theory the only perosn in this house to shed hair is No.1 Daughter
as hers is the only hair that gets tangled in the vacum. She has hair
down to the small of her back everyone else has short hair, clear of
shoulders.

None of those you mention have a rotating beater bar. IMHO the "beats, as
it sweeps, as it cleans" action does make difference to the amount of
effort you need to put in to get the same level of clean.

The Henry 'Airo' attachment which I mentioned does just that.
Excellent. Although my Daughter No 1's hair regularly needs removing
from it as it gets tangles round the roller!

David

Paul Hutchings wrote:
I've done some digging and it seems the best regarded Vacuum cleaners
are Miele, Sebo, Nilfisk and Numatic.

Miele are just domestic machines. Best upright on the market is Sebo, tub
vacs average.

Nilfisk are without doubt the best in the world, but the price tells you
why. If you are over 30 there is a good chance a Nilfisk will out live you.

At the moment I'm leaning towards Numatic as they seem "no-frills" and
pretty much every cleaner I've ever seen uses one so I assume they are
good Vacuums and don't break often?

That's just about spot on.

So, which one, and where from?

Dixons list the Numatic Henry at £78 with free delivery, which seems
too good to be true from Dixons of all places, but I notice the spec
states "1000w" which makes me wonder if it's a previous model or just
a simple cock-up on their website?

Probably made for Dixons with a smaller motor to keep the price down.

Also what's the difference between their domestic and commercial
ranges? I'm looking at, say, the James and the NVP180. Both around
£70, so what's the difference as the NVP180 looks more powerful for
similar money?

Mainly motors & tools. I notice both come with aluminium wands - you are
better off with the A1 kit which has SSteel wands. If you can get the
NVP180 for the same as a James go for it - it has a more powerful motor.

As to where, Google for Numatic and buy online.


--
Dave
The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk
01634 717930
07850 597257

Colin Wilson wrote:

We have a Numatic Henry - totally wonderful machines. Very powerful,
tough and reliable.


Out of interest, how noisy are they ? - the last vacuum cleaner we had
of that sort of design was an old aquavac and you needed bloody ear
defenders to use it !

*massively* quieter than an aquavac (had one of those years ago - your
right they are 'kin loud).


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Cheers,

John.

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In article ,
"The Medway Handyman" wrote:

Dixons list the Numatic Henry at £78 with free delivery, which seems
too good to be true from Dixons of all places, but I notice the spec
states "1000w" which makes me wonder if it's a previous model or just
a simple cock-up on their website?

Probably made for Dixons with a smaller motor to keep the price down.

That was one theory, a quick Google for "Numatic Henry 1000W" suggests
it might be an "A1" which looks like a bit older model? Though as I
said it could just be a cock-up on the Dixons website.


Also what's the difference between their domestic and commercial
ranges? I'm looking at, say, the James and the NVP180. Both around
£70, so what's the difference as the NVP180 looks more powerful for
similar money?

Mainly motors & tools. I notice both come with aluminium wands - you are
better off with the A1 kit which has SSteel wands. If you can get the
NVP180 for the same as a James go for it - it has a more powerful motor.

It's about seven quid more so not worth worrying about. I wasn't sure
if I was being naive in thinking if it's £75 and has the 1200W motor why
do I need spend the extra on a Henry?

In article om,
"Dave Liquorice" wrote:

On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 11:59:13 +0000, Paul Hutchings wrote:

Don't have any allergies or pets, and I don't shed hair either

Oh you do but if it short it doesn't get tangled around things. Going by
your theory the only perosn in this house to shed hair is No.1 Daughter
as hers is the only hair that gets tangled in the vacum. She has hair
down to the small of her back everyone else has short hair, clear of
shoulders.

Fair point, spose what I was getting at was that I don't have any
entangled pet hair to deal with - seems a lot of expensive vacuums make
great play out of being able to deal with a setee covered in the stuff
etc.

"Paul Hutchings" wrote in message
news
OK the Vacuum Cleaner has seen better days and it seems pointless
faffing about repairing it with prices as they are.

Don't have any allergies or pets, and I don't shed hair either so as I
see it all I need is something that cleans carpets well, and is reliable.

I've done some digging and it seems the best regarded Vacuum cleaners
are Miele, Sebo, Nilfisk and Numatic.

At the moment I'm leaning towards Numatic as they seem "no-frills" and
pretty much every cleaner I've ever seen uses one so I assume they are
good Vacuums and don't break often?

So, which one, and where from?

Dixons list the Numatic Henry at £78 with free delivery, which seems too
good to be true from Dixons of all places, but I notice the spec states
"1000w" which makes me wonder if it's a previous model or just a simple
cock-up on their website?

Also what's the difference between their domestic and commercial ranges?
I'm looking at, say, the James and the NVP180. Both around £70, so
what's the difference as the NVP180 looks more powerful for similar
money?

You can't beat a Henry (Or the others in the Numatic range) for longevity,
power, reliability and robustness.
The hire shop I used to work in a few years ago had 50. Bloody damn fine
machines that took everything in their stride (Water excepted).
They do a Wet Vac version, a twin motor version and as others point out many
tools for them for all sorts of applications.
At £78 delivered they seem quite good compared to full retail. You can get
one on EBay for half that.
DON'T go for a refurb as they can be a little temperamental if not
reassembled correctly, especially the ones with the cable retractor handle
on the top. The tangs of the contacts inside sometimes break off and you
lose power.

"Lobster" wrote :



The Henry 'Airo' attachment which I mentioned does just that. Excellent.
Although my Daughter No 1's hair regularly needs removing from it as it
gets tangles round the roller!


Do the instructions not have a warning along the lines of "do not use this
vacuum cleaner on children or pets" ;-)

H

In article ,
"Robbo" wrote:

You can't beat a Henry (Or the others in the Numatic range) for longevity,
power, reliability and robustness.
The hire shop I used to work in a few years ago had 50. Bloody damn fine
machines that took everything in their stride (Water excepted).
They do a Wet Vac version, a twin motor version and as others point out many
tools for them for all sorts of applications.
At £78 delivered they seem quite good compared to full retail. You can get
one on EBay for half that.
DON'T go for a refurb as they can be a little temperamental if not
reassembled correctly, especially the ones with the cable retractor handle
on the top. The tangs of the contacts inside sometimes break off and you
lose power.

Not sure I can be bothered trying to track down a used one, obviously it
could break tomorrow etc.

So far it looks like these are the options:

Numatic James (£68 delivered) or NVP180 (£77 delivered) from
http://www.greenandwhite.co.uk

Henry for £78 from Dixons but I smell no stock/hassle/old stock.

An NVH-200 off eBay brand new for £75 inc delivery, looks the better
model but can't see it on the Numatic website?

Colin Wilson type d


We have a Numatic Henry - totally wonderful machines. Very powerful,
tough and reliable.

Out of interest, how noisy are they ? - the last vacuum cleaner we had
of that sort of design was an old aquavac and you needed bloody ear
defenders to use it !

My 7-year-old Henry is fairly quiet. I don't worry about the neighbours
if my partner decides to use Henry at 2am. We can't quite hold a
conversation, but Henry is *much* quieter than my Hoover Junior.

--
Helen D. Vecht:
Edgware.

In uk.d-i-y Robbo wrote:
snip

You can't beat a Henry (Or the others in the Numatic range) for longevity,
power, reliability and robustness.
The hire shop I used to work in a few years ago had 50. Bloody damn fine
machines that took everything in their stride (Water excepted).
They do a Wet Vac version, a twin motor version and as others point out many
tools for them for all sorts of applications.

I get mildly annoyed with my Henry, due to the relatively small capacity
of the bin, when doing DIY.
The visible bit of the bin is taken up quite a lot by the filter.
Get the taller one - if you might be using it for more than domestic
stuff.

"Paul Hutchings" wrote in message
news
In article ,
"Robbo" wrote:

You can't beat a Henry (Or the others in the Numatic range) for
longevity,
power, reliability and robustness.
The hire shop I used to work in a few years ago had 50. Bloody damn fine
machines that took everything in their stride (Water excepted).
They do a Wet Vac version, a twin motor version and as others point out
many
tools for them for all sorts of applications.
At £78 delivered they seem quite good compared to full retail. You can
get
one on EBay for half that.
DON'T go for a refurb as they can be a little temperamental if not
reassembled correctly, especially the ones with the cable retractor
handle
on the top. The tangs of the contacts inside sometimes break off and you
lose power.

Not sure I can be bothered trying to track down a used one, obviously it
could break tomorrow etc.

So far it looks like these are the options:

Numatic James (£68 delivered) or NVP180 (£77 delivered) from
http://www.greenandwhite.co.uk

Henry for £78 from Dixons but I smell no stock/hassle/old stock.

An NVH-200 off eBay brand new for £75 inc delivery, looks the better
model but can't see it on the Numatic website?

Yeah, the NVH has the same spec generally as the Henry. Do you *need* the
Tritex filtration system really?
Has a better storage space in the lid for tools.
1200w motor is useful, same as Henry one.

If you really want to go the whole hog look out for George GVE370-2
There isn't much it don't do, but it is around £149 generally.

There isn't much *that* machine won't cope with

"Colin Wilson" wrote in message
t...
We have a Numatic Henry - totally wonderful machines. Very powerful,
tough and reliable.

Out of interest, how noisy are they ? - the last vacuum cleaner we had
of that sort of design was an old aquavac and you needed bloody ear
defenders to use it !


Definitely the most pleasant vacuum cleaner noisewise we have had. Not very
quiet but not oppressive at all. The £15 Kenwood I just got from Amazon is
maybe slightly noisier but has a much more unpleasant "whining" sound.

H

In article ,
"Robbo" wrote:

Yeah, the NVH has the same spec generally as the Henry. Do you *need* the
Tritex filtration system really?
Has a better storage space in the lid for tools.
1200w motor is useful, same as Henry one.

Honestly not a clue :-)

Basically it's just a bit confusing when you see three models from the
same manufacturer all at around the same price and you can't readily
spot what makes one model the one to go for out of the three!

cheers,
Paul

On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 13:04:41 +0000, Colin Wilson wrote:

We have a Numatic Henry - totally wonderful machines. Very powerful,
tough and reliable.

Out of interest, how noisy are they ? - the last vacuum cleaner we had
of that sort of design was an old aquavac and you needed bloody ear
defenders to use it !

Quite noisy; although there is a toggle switch to reduce the fan speed and
airflow, on mine that makes the fan stop and start every few seconds
(after an initial few mins when it's ok). I guess there is a cooling
problem there somewhere. So I run the thing flat out, lots of suck and
lots of noise.

--
Chris Game

Capt'n! The spellchecker kinna take this abuse!

"Paul Hutchings" wrote in message
news
OK the Vacuum Cleaner has seen better days and it seems pointless
faffing about repairing it with prices as they are.

Don't have any allergies or pets, and I don't shed hair either so as I
see it all I need is something that cleans carpets well, and is reliable.

I've done some digging and it seems the best regarded Vacuum cleaners
are Miele, Sebo, Nilfisk and Numatic.

At the moment I'm leaning towards Numatic as they seem "no-frills" and
pretty much every cleaner I've ever seen uses one so I assume they are
good Vacuums and don't break often?

So, which one, and where from?

Dixons list the Numatic Henry at £78 with free delivery, which seems too
good to be true from Dixons of all places, but I notice the spec states
"1000w" which makes me wonder if it's a previous model or just a simple
cock-up on their website?

Also what's the difference between their domestic and commercial ranges?
I'm looking at, say, the James and the NVP180. Both around £70, so
what's the difference as the NVP180 looks more powerful for similar
money?

If you are wanting it for carpets and not clearing out your shed, the Miele
is the one to go for.
It is extremely quiet, brilliantly engineered, and a host of tools for
every job.
The Cat and Dog is the one to go for, comes complete with 2 turbo brushes,
one for small jobs like the car and upholstery the other brushes beats the
hell out of the carpet. (ignore the Cat and dog name it gives you the all
essential turbo brush) Miele has consistently won best buy in Which reports.
The Numatic is fair but noisy and you really need the airo brush to get
anything like decent carpet cleaning qualities, which pushes up the price to
close to the miele.
Even then you will have a 1100w against a 2200w motor.

I strongly recommend finding a dealer to demonstrate you the sophistication
of this product, it is a different league to the Henry.
In Engineering terms One is Morris Minor the other is BMW.

Froogle for the best price. Target around £156 delivered.
Loads of recommendations on acukd&b.

"Paul Hutchings" wrote in message
news
OK the Vacuum Cleaner has seen better days and it seems pointless
faffing about repairing it with prices as they are.

Don't have any allergies or pets, and I don't shed hair either so as I
see it all I need is something that cleans carpets well, and is reliable.

I've done some digging and it seems the best regarded Vacuum cleaners
are Miele, Sebo, Nilfisk and Numatic.

At the moment I'm leaning towards Numatic as they seem "no-frills" and
pretty much every cleaner I've ever seen uses one so I assume they are
good Vacuums and don't break often?

So, which one, and where from?

Dixons list the Numatic Henry at £78 with free delivery, which seems too
good to be true from Dixons of all places, but I notice the spec states
"1000w" which makes me wonder if it's a previous model or just a simple
cock-up on their website?

Also what's the difference between their domestic and commercial ranges?
I'm looking at, say, the James and the NVP180. Both around £70, so
what's the difference as the NVP180 looks more powerful for similar
money?

TIA,
Paul

The Henry will last years, most trades people use them. I have used one to
clear bits of broken plaster up. The other expensive makes are just that -
you pay for a name.
Don't even consider the Dyson, very poor quality reinvention from an expired
patent and now made abroad - the company should be forced to give back UK
grants paid before sacking workers.
To compare prices do what others do - use a price comparison site such as
Kelkoo or Pricerunner. Also look at discount codes on hotdealsuk.

"Paul Hutchings" wrote in message
news
OK the Vacuum Cleaner has seen better days and it seems pointless
faffing about repairing it with prices as they are.

After MUCH research we ended up with a Sebo. Around £200 but well made and
does a good job.

Ian Stirling wrote:
In uk.d-i-y Robbo wrote:
snip

You can't beat a Henry (Or the others in the Numatic range) for longevity,
power, reliability and robustness.
The hire shop I used to work in a few years ago had 50. Bloody damn fine
machines that took everything in their stride (Water excepted).
They do a Wet Vac version, a twin motor version and as others point out many
tools for them for all sorts of applications.


I get mildly annoyed with my Henry, due to the relatively small capacity
of the bin, when doing DIY.

The answer to this is to make yourself a vortex collector. There are
various designs on the web.

HTH

Dave

"Signal" wrote in message
...
"bronco" wrote:

The Henry will last years, most trades people use them. I have used one
to
clear bits of broken plaster up. The other expensive makes are just
that -
you pay for a name.

As JP suggested, Henrys may be great for that sort of stuff, but
Mieles are designed for regular use, ie. carpets and that. You are not
just paying for the name - it's built to last.


May I suggest if you do buy the Miele don't use it as a 'wet and dry' as one
of our engineers did to a customers and it didn't like it much...(nor did he
when we made him pay for the new one....)

Cheers

Richard

P.S had a Dyson which the Mrs absolutely hated. Junked it bought a
Henry -she rates it and I loved the price..;-)

Paul Hutchings wrote:

OK the Vacuum Cleaner has seen better days and it seems pointless
faffing about repairing it with prices as they are.

Don't have any allergies or pets, and I don't shed hair either so as I
see it all I need is something that cleans carpets well, and is reliable.

I've done some digging and it seems the best regarded Vacuum cleaners
are Miele, Sebo, Nilfisk and Numatic.

At the moment I'm leaning towards Numatic as they seem "no-frills" and
pretty much every cleaner I've ever seen uses one so I assume they are
good Vacuums and don't break often?

So, which one, and where from?

I have just finished from a job as site supervisor at a school.

We had 3 Sebo's and a Numatic George (shampoo version). In the 3 years I
was there, the only problems were...

The George shampoo pump failed (it had been used for several years before.)

George again failed when I had to suck up water with it after a flood in
a classroom. It turned out to be the internal overload, die once
switch/fuse.

All in all, I was very impressed with George. It took care of all that
the nursery threw at it (rice/sand/seeds and everything else you can
think of that a nursery teacher would provide for the children with no
regard for the poor cleaner. It also did all the carpet shampoo work
during the summer clean.

Dixons list the Numatic Henry at £78 with free delivery, which seems too
good to be true from Dixons of all places

If it looks like being too good to be true, it always is.

HTH

Dave

On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 18:34:51 -0000, bronco wrote:

The Henry will last years, most trades people use them.

I wonder how much that has to do with them being fairly small, light and
not overly noisy.

I have used one to clear bits of broken plaster up.

I use an Earlex wet 'n dry thing for that. Much bigger bin, you can take
a stiff brush the the filter, and at half the price of a Henry very good
value. It is heavier, bigger and a lot more noisey though.

A Henry type with the aero brush mentioned may be OK but for general
household use on carpets etc I much prefer an upright.

Don't even consider the Dyson,

Our DC04 is OK but it is a British built one. It certainly out preforms
any other upright I have had.

--
Cheers
Dave. pam is missing e-mail

In uk.d-i-y Dave wrote:
Ian Stirling wrote:
In uk.d-i-y Robbo wrote:
snip

You can't beat a Henry (Or the others in the Numatic range) for longevity,
power, reliability and robustness.
The hire shop I used to work in a few years ago had 50. Bloody damn fine
machines that took everything in their stride (Water excepted).
They do a Wet Vac version, a twin motor version and as others point out many
tools for them for all sorts of applications.


I get mildly annoyed with my Henry, due to the relatively small capacity
of the bin, when doing DIY.

The answer to this is to make yourself a vortex collector. There are
various designs on the web.

No, it's not.
An extra 10cm or so in the barrel of the thing would nearly double the
capacity - and still result in something that you can pull along with
the hose.

On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 19:03:56 UTC, Owain
wrote:

Paul Hutchings wrote:
Basically it's just a bit confusing when you see three models from the
same manufacturer all at around the same price and you can't readily
spot what makes one model the one to go for out of the three!

You choose the one named the same as a convenient small child, and get
all the vacuuming done for free by aforesaid small child who is
delighted at having a "toy" with his/her name on it.

Yes. It works well here.

Changing child's name by deed poll is not expensive compared to a
lifetime's cleaning.

Didn't even need to do that!
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The information contained in this post is copyright the
poster, and specifically may not be published in, or used by
http://www.diybanter.com

On 2007-01-14 22:33:21 +0000, "Bob Eager" said:

On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 19:03:56 UTC, Owain
wrote:

Changing child's name by deed poll is not expensive compared to a
lifetime's cleaning.

Didn't even need to do that!

Yes but fancy calling a daughter "Electrolux" :-)

On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 22:41:27 UTC, Andy Hall wrote:

On 2007-01-14 22:33:21 +0000, "Bob Eager" said:

On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 19:03:56 UTC, Owain
wrote:

Changing child's name by deed poll is not expensive compared to a
lifetime's cleaning.

Didn't even need to do that!

Yes but fancy calling a daughter "Electrolux" :-)

No, we're talking about vacuum cleaners here!

--
The information contained in this post is copyright the
poster, and specifically may not be published in, or used by
http://www.diybanter.com

"Bob Eager" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 22:41:27 UTC, Andy Hall wrote:

On 2007-01-14 22:33:21 +0000, "Bob Eager" said:

On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 19:03:56 UTC, Owain

wrote:

Changing child's name by deed poll is not expensive compared to a
lifetime's cleaning.

Didn't even need to do that!

Yes but fancy calling a daughter "Electrolux" :-)

No, we're talking about vacuum cleaners here!

You named you child Dyson?!!?

Have you no shame man

;-^

"JP" wrote in message
...

"Paul Hutchings" wrote in message
news
OK the Vacuum Cleaner has seen better days and it seems pointless
faffing about repairing it with prices as they are.

Don't have any allergies or pets, and I don't shed hair either so as I
see it all I need is something that cleans carpets well, and is reliable.

I've done some digging and it seems the best regarded Vacuum cleaners
are Miele, Sebo, Nilfisk and Numatic.

At the moment I'm leaning towards Numatic as they seem "no-frills" and
pretty much every cleaner I've ever seen uses one so I assume they are
good Vacuums and don't break often?

So, which one, and where from?

Dixons list the Numatic Henry at £78 with free delivery, which seems too
good to be true from Dixons of all places, but I notice the spec states
"1000w" which makes me wonder if it's a previous model or just a simple
cock-up on their website?

Also what's the difference between their domestic and commercial ranges?
I'm looking at, say, the James and the NVP180. Both around £70, so
what's the difference as the NVP180 looks more powerful for similar
money?

If you are wanting it for carpets and not clearing out your shed, the
Miele is the one to go for.
It is extremely quiet, brilliantly engineered, and a host of tools for
every job.
The Cat and Dog is the one to go for, comes complete with 2 turbo
brushes, one for small jobs like the car and upholstery the other brushes
beats the hell out of the carpet. (ignore the Cat and dog name it gives
you the all essential turbo brush) Miele has consistently won best buy in
Which reports. The Numatic is fair but noisy and you really need the airo
brush to get anything like decent carpet cleaning qualities, which pushes
up the price to close to the miele.
Even then you will have a 1100w against a 2200w motor.

I strongly recommend finding a dealer to demonstrate you the
sophistication of this product, it is a different league to the Henry.
In Engineering terms One is Morris Minor the other is BMW.

Are you deriding the BMW?

On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 18:29:25 -0000, "JP" wrote:


If you are wanting it for carpets and not clearing out your shed, the Miele
is the one to go for.
It is extremely quiet, brilliantly engineered, and a host of tools for
every job.
The Cat and Dog is the one to go for, comes complete with 2 turbo brushes,
one for small jobs like the car and upholstery the other brushes beats the
hell out of the carpet. (ignore the Cat and dog name it gives you the all
essential turbo brush) Miele has consistently won best buy in Which reports.
The Numatic is fair but noisy and you really need the airo brush to get
anything like decent carpet cleaning qualities, which pushes up the price to
close to the miele.
Even then you will have a 1100w against a 2200w motor.

I strongly recommend finding a dealer to demonstrate you the sophistication
of this product, it is a different league to the Henry.
In Engineering terms One is Morris Minor the other is BMW.

Agreed, except I didn't read Which but went into my local dealer with
a sound level meter and realised the Miele C&D was way quieter than
all the other makes / models in there (and especially quieter than
both Dysons and Numatics). At the lower power settings (still
perfectly good for most work) it is very quiet indeed.

It has also proven to be pretty tough (accidental trips down
uncarpeted stairs etc) and after a couple of years so far (at least)
all the lids / doors / flaps / catches are still present and correct
and the recoiling cable still does etc ;-)

Since we bought the Miele the DC01 has hardly been used and Henry is
reserved for more DIY type work and lives in the garage.

All the best ..

T i m

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On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 22:41:27 UTC, Andy Hall wrote:

On 2007-01-14 22:33:21 +0000, "Bob Eager" said:

On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 19:03:56 UTC, Owain

wrote:

Changing child's name by deed poll is not expensive compared to a
lifetime's cleaning.

Didn't even need to do that!

Yes but fancy calling a daughter "Electrolux" :-)

No, we're talking about vacuum cleaners here!

You named you child Dyson?!!?

Have you no shame man

Same comment as above....no, he's named after a *vacuum cleaner*
(Electrolux and Dyson don't qualify). For the avoidance of doubt, and to
bring this to an end, he *is* called Henry!

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On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 15:56:24 GMT, Helen Deborah Vecht
wrote:


My 7-year-old Henry is fairly quiet. I don't worry about the neighbours
if my partner decides to use Henry at 2am. We can't quite hold a
conversation

Kinky






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"bronco" wrote:

The Henry will last years, most trades people use them. I have used one
to
clear bits of broken plaster up. The other expensive makes are just
that -
you pay for a name.

As JP suggested, Henrys may be great for that sort of stuff, but
Mieles are designed for regular use, ie. carpets and that. You are not
just paying for the name - it's built to last.


May I suggest if you do buy the Miele don't use it as a 'wet and dry' as
one of our engineers did to a customers and it didn't like it much...(nor
did he when we made him pay for the new one....)

Don't try surfing with it also.
It is a VACUUM Cleaner.
Your engineers must be highly trained.
Preferably from a tree.

Cheers

Richard

P.S had a Dyson which the Mrs absolutely hated. Junked it bought a
Henry -she rates it and I loved the price..;-)

On 2007-01-14 22:58:10 +0000, Owain said:

Andy Hall wrote:
Changing child's name by deed poll is not expensive compared to a
lifetime's cleaning.
Yes but fancy calling a daughter "Electrolux" :-)

She'd be a popular lass as she grew up though.

Quoted in The Times Book of Names, according to a 1999 study by the
Royal South Hampshire Hospital in Southampton, the percentage of girls
named Sharon and Tracey visiting genito-urinary clinics was half what
might be expected by the number of Sharons/Traceys in the population as
a whole.

This may of course be because genito-urinary clinics tend not to be
located in shopping centres.

... or because there are not many in Southampton.



The same Book of Names noted that Andrew is the most common name among
UK online male gamblers, and Andrews have an average age of 39, average
income of £30,000 and are most likely to loive in Yorkshire. They are
one-third less likely to live in a bungalow.

Hmm... I don't fit any of those criteria apart from the last. Mind
you, I have always been an individualist.



(Robert is the most common name among prisoners on death row in Texas.)

That's understandable.

On Mon, 15 Jan 2007 07:21:13 +0000, Robbo wrote:

Are you deriding the BMW?

Doesn't everyone who's owned a recent 3 series?

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Owain wrote:

You choose the one named the same as a convenient small child, and get
all the vacuuming done for free by aforesaid small child who is
delighted at having a "toy" with his/her name on it.

Changing child's name by deed poll is not expensive compared to a
lifetime's cleaning.

Stick-on vinyl letters are even cheaper, but you'll need a cylinder
model if your kids are called Fifi Trixibelle


I'd recommend the NVQ250 (Henry in a steel case) as it's stronger.
Otherwise a Henry.

Matt typed


On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 15:56:24 GMT, Helen Deborah Vecht
wrote:


My 7-year-old Henry is fairly quiet. I don't worry about the neighbours
if my partner decides to use Henry at 2am. We can't quite hold a
conversation

Kinky






What do you expect from an astronomer? ;-)

PS Henry has just cleaned the observatory...

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bronco wrote:

Don't even consider the Dyson, very poor quality reinvention from an
expired patent and now made abroad - the company should be forced to
give back UK grants paid before sacking workers.

Hear, hear. Quite right.


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