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embedded copper in aluminium foil??
Guys,
Been reading these pages and you've got me concerned. A couple of months back I embedded some 10mm copper pipes in a wall for my new radiators. I used aluminium kitchen foil to cover the pipes before filling the voids with interior filler. I am am now about to tile over this for one rad, and fit kitchen cupboards over another filled area. I have seen some people mention that copper + aluminium = corrosion. What corrodes? The aluminium or the copper? I covered the copper pipes for about two feet in this fashion. Should I remove this aluminium foil? Would what I have done cause problems down the line? -- /home/steve/new file |
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On Sun, 07 Jan 2007 08:15:45 -0600, Kaiser Sose wrote:
|Guys, |Been reading these pages and you've got me concerned. A couple of months |back I embedded some 10mm copper pipes in a wall for my new radiators. |I used aluminium kitchen foil to cover the pipes before filling the voids |with interior filler. |I am am now about to tile over this for one rad, |and fit kitchen cupboards over another filled area. I have seen |some people mention that copper + aluminium = corrosion. What corrodes? |The aluminium or the copper? I covered the copper pipes for about two |feet in this fashion. Copper corrodes aluminium. http://www.terrific-scientific.co.uk...orrosion-7.htm So we can confidently predict that if aluminium and copper were joined together in the solution, the aluminium would corrode, and the copper would be protected. | Should I remove this aluminium foil? Would what I |have done cause problems down the line? No you will lose the aluminium foil eventually. -- Dave Fawthrop dave hyphenologist co uk Google Groups is IME the *worst* method of accessing usenet. GG subscribers would be well advised get a newsreader, say Agent, and a newsserver, say news.individual.net. These will allow them: to see only *new* posts, a killfile, and other goodies. |
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On Sun, 07 Jan 2007 08:15:45 -0600, Kaiser Sose wrote:
Guys, Been reading these pages and you've got me concerned. A couple of months back I embedded some 10mm copper pipes in a wall for my new radiators. I used aluminium kitchen foil to cover the pipes before filling the voids with interior filler. I am am now about to tile over this for one rad, and fit kitchen cupboards over another filled area. I have seen some people mention that copper + aluminium = corrosion. What corrodes? The aluminium or the copper? I covered the copper pipes for about two feet in this fashion. Should I remove this aluminium foil? Would what I have done cause problems down the line? It's unlikely to be too much of a problem inside the house and away from a damp environment. -- the dot wanderer at tesco dot net |
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On Jan 7, 3:10 pm, The Wanderer wrote: It's unlikely to be too much of a problem inside the house and away from a damp environment. The walls will always contain some moisture (electrolyte) and so set up a galvanic corrosion cell between the aluminium anode & copper cathode. Seen similar (copper pipes, steel pipes, steel reinforcement). As to whether it will become a problem, I have no idea. |
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On 7 Jan 2007 07:20:52 -0800, Aidan wrote:
On Jan 7, 3:10 pm, The Wanderer wrote: It's unlikely to be too much of a problem inside the house and away from a damp environment. The walls will always contain some moisture (electrolyte) and so set up a galvanic corrosion cell between the aluminium anode & copper cathode. Seen similar (copper pipes, steel pipes, steel reinforcement). True. Having had many years experience of the problems presented by bimetal joints exposed to the elements, I am aware of just how much of a problem corrosion can present, but it ain't likely to be too much of a problem in the situation mentioned by the OP. As to whether it will become a problem, I have no idea. No, and nor do I, but I can't see there being much likelihood of severe corrosion in the circumstances I mentioned. -- the dot wanderer at tesco dot net |
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On Jan 7, 4:48 pm, The Wanderer wrote: I'm baffled why people still embed copper pipes in walls and screeds, wrapped in anything. Plastic PEX pipe inside a bit of conduit pipe, problem solved. Much neater. http://www.bes.ltd.uk/products/154.asp Only likely problem is if rodents can get access to the plastic, then they may gnaw at it. Failing that, wrap the copper in Denso tape. |
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On Sun, 7 Jan 2007 21:52:25 -0000, "Steve Walker"
wrote: |Dave Fawthrop wrote: | | http://www.terrific-scientific.co.uk...orrosion-7.htm | | |Fabulous site! Google Advance Search is your friend. -- Dave Fawthrop dave hyphenologist co uk Google Groups is IME the *worst* method of accessing usenet. GG subscribers would be well advised get a newsreader, say Agent, and a newsserver, say news.individual.net. These will allow them: to see only *new* posts, a killfile, and other goodies. |
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"Aidan" wrote in message ups.com... On Jan 7, 4:48 pm, The Wanderer wrote: I'm baffled why people still embed copper pipes in walls and screeds, wrapped in anything. Plastic PEX pipe inside a bit of conduit pipe, problem solved. Much neater. Gas pipes can't be plastic. |
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On Jan 8, 3:43 pm, "Doctor Drivel" wrote: Gas pipes can't be plastic. The OP said; "A couple of months back I embedded some 10mm copper pipes in a wall for my new radiators." Do you circulate hot gas through your radiators, Drivel? An interesting concept, but then you seem to have an excess. |
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In message ews.net,
Doctor Drivel writes "Aidan" wrote in message oups.com... On Jan 7, 4:48 pm, The Wanderer wrote: I'm baffled why people still embed copper pipes in walls and screeds, wrapped in anything. Plastic PEX pipe inside a bit of conduit pipe, problem solved. Much neater. Gas pipes can't be plastic. When my brother moved into his last house the cooker's gas supply was via a bit of hosepipe and a couple of jubilee clips So, they can - but not legally -- geoff |
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"raden" wrote in message ... In message ews.net, Doctor Drivel writes "Aidan" wrote in message roups.com... On Jan 7, 4:48 pm, The Wanderer wrote: I'm baffled why people still embed copper pipes in walls and screeds, wrapped in anything. Plastic PEX pipe inside a bit of conduit pipe, problem solved. Much neater. Gas pipes can't be plastic. When my brother moved into his last house the cooker's gas supply was via a bit of hosepipe and a couple of jubilee clips That is Corgi for you Maxie. |
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