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Scott December 29th 06 02:24 PM

Hollow skirting boards?
 
Hi

Anyone know where I can get hollow skirting boards. I need to run some
cable and seemed a good idea if I can put it in a some hollow skirting
boards. So far, none of the diy sheds websites say they do such a thing

Thanks

Scott

Stuart Noble December 29th 06 02:43 PM

Hollow skirting boards?
 
Scott wrote:
Hi

Anyone know where I can get hollow skirting boards. I need to run some
cable and seemed a good idea if I can put it in a some hollow skirting
boards. So far, none of the diy sheds websites say they do such a thing

Thanks

Scott


Try a decent electrical wholesaler. They should stock this sort of thing

http://www.armorductsystems.co.uk/in.../page=skirting



[email protected] December 29th 06 02:47 PM

Hollow skirting boards?
 
Scott wrote:

Hi

Anyone know where I can get hollow skirting boards. I need to run some
cable and seemed a good idea if I can put it in a some hollow skirting
boards. So far, none of the diy sheds websites say they do such a thing

Thanks

Scott


An alternative is to make some up from either plank & moulding or
skirting & standoff strips


NT


Lobster December 29th 06 03:05 PM

Hollow skirting boards?
 
wrote:
Scott wrote:

Anyone know where I can get hollow skirting boards. I need to run some
cable and seemed a good idea if I can put it in a some hollow skirting
boards. So far, none of the diy sheds websites say they do such a thing


An alternative is to make some up from either plank & moulding or
skirting & standoff strips


I thought running unprotected cables behind (oer "within", for that
matter) skirting boards was a big no-no?

David

Mary Fisher December 29th 06 03:10 PM

Hollow skirting boards?
 

"Lobster" wrote in message
I thought running unprotected cables behind (oer "within", for that
matter) skirting boards was a big no-no?


It's not as convenient as running them under the floor - it's less
destructive to decor when servicing is needed.

Mary

David




Andy Hall December 29th 06 03:22 PM

Hollow skirting boards?
 
On 2006-12-29 15:05:21 +0000, Lobster said:

wrote:
Scott wrote:

Anyone know where I can get hollow skirting boards. I need to run some
cable and seemed a good idea if I can put it in a some hollow skirting
boards. So far, none of the diy sheds websites say they do such a thing


An alternative is to make some up from either plank & moulding or
skirting & standoff strips


I thought running unprotected cables behind (oer "within", for that
matter) skirting boards was a big no-no?

David


It is.


Andy Hall December 29th 06 03:35 PM

Hollow skirting boards?
 
On 2006-12-29 14:24:07 +0000, Scott said:

Hi

Anyone know where I can get hollow skirting boards. I need to run some
cable and seemed a good idea if I can put it in a some hollow skirting
boards. So far, none of the diy sheds websites say they do such a thing

Thanks

Scott


If you were thinking of using this to run mains power cables, it would
be as well to think again because this would be in contravention to the
Wiring Regulations (BS7671), and in many cases, by implication the
Building Regulations.

While I'm by no means a fan of regulation and bureaucracy, and in
practice there would be little chance of being found out, there are
potential problems if you sell the house (an electrical inspection
would flag it immediately) and there is a safety issue.

In respect of cables hidden from view (e.g. buried in plaster), the
Wiring Regulations provide three different approaches:

- Cable to be 50mm below the surface

- Cable protected with sturdy earthed metal cover

- Cable run in a space up to 150mm from the corner of a room or the top
of a wall, or cable run vertically or horizontally from a wiring
accessory (e.g. switch or socket).

Note that the third approach excludes the equivalent 150mm space next
to a floor, which is what you are considering. The reason for it is
that skirting boards are traditionally nailed to blocks in the wall or
an equivalent and cables are not expected to be there.

On the other hand, if you are running very low voltage cables or signal
cables (e.g. TV or hifi etc.) or if you want to ignore the wiring
regulations, then a way to obtain slotted skirting would be to buy
standard stuff and then use a
router to cut a slot in the back.




Stuart Noble December 29th 06 03:52 PM

Hollow skirting boards?
 
Andy Hall wrote:
On 2006-12-29 15:05:21 +0000, Lobster
said:

wrote:
Scott wrote:

Anyone know where I can get hollow skirting boards. I need to run some
cable and seemed a good idea if I can put it in a some hollow skirting
boards. So far, none of the diy sheds websites say they do such a thing


An alternative is to make some up from either plank & moulding or
skirting & standoff strips


I thought running unprotected cables behind (oer "within", for that
matter) skirting boards was a big no-no?

David


It is.


Skirting trunking is common in flats with solid floors I think. I
discovered that the hard way when I screwed a telephone socket to a
plastic version...

Stuart Noble December 29th 06 03:52 PM

Hollow skirting boards?
 
wrote:
Scott wrote:

Hi

Anyone know where I can get hollow skirting boards. I need to run some
cable and seemed a good idea if I can put it in a some hollow skirting
boards. So far, none of the diy sheds websites say they do such a thing

Thanks

Scott


An alternative is to make some up from either plank & moulding or
skirting & standoff strips


NT


Now that *would* be dangerous. At least trunking can't normally be
mistaken for anything else.

Harry Bloomfield December 29th 06 04:06 PM

Hollow skirting boards?
 
After serious thinking Scott wrote :
Hi


Anyone know where I can get hollow skirting boards. I need to run some cable
and seemed a good idea if I can put it in a some hollow skirting boards. So
far, none of the diy sheds websites say they do such a thing


You can buy purpose made skirting trunking, though not very attractive,
from an electrical wholesaler. Running mains cables horizontally behind
normal skirting is not permitted by the regs.

--

Regards,
Harry (M1BYT) (L)
http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk



Andrew Mawson December 29th 06 04:15 PM

Hollow skirting boards?
 

"Lobster" wrote in message
...
wrote:
Scott wrote:

Anyone know where I can get hollow skirting boards. I need to run

some
cable and seemed a good idea if I can put it in a some hollow

skirting
boards. So far, none of the diy sheds websites say they do such a

thing

An alternative is to make some up from either plank & moulding or
skirting & standoff strips


I thought running unprotected cables behind (oer "within", for that
matter) skirting boards was a big no-no?

David


Only because John Prescott is so thick he'd screw through it !

AWEM



ARWadsworth December 29th 06 05:00 PM

Hollow skirting boards?
 

"Mary Fisher" wrote in message
t...

"Lobster" wrote in message
I thought running unprotected cables behind (oer "within", for that
matter) skirting boards was a big no-no?


It's not as convenient as running them under the floor - it's less
destructive to decor when servicing is needed.

Mary


Not if your floors are concrete.

Adam


Phil Kyle December 29th 06 09:16 PM

Hollow skirting boards?
 
Harry Bloomfield verbally sodomised in
:

After serious thinking Scott wrote :
Hi


Anyone know where I can get hollow skirting boards. I need to run some
cable and seemed a good idea if I can put it in a some hollow skirting
boards. So far, none of the diy sheds websites say they do such a thing


You can buy purpose made skirting trunking, though not very attractive,
from an electrical wholesaler. Running mains cables horizontally behind
normal skirting is not permitted by the regs.


The DL regs permit skirting.

--
Phil Kyle™

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Dave Plowman (News) December 30th 06 12:06 AM

Hollow skirting boards?
 
In article ,
Scott wrote:
Anyone know where I can get hollow skirting boards. I need to run some
cable and seemed a good idea if I can put it in a some hollow skirting
boards. So far, none of the diy sheds websites say they do such a thing


To do this 'legally', you either need to use trunking designed for the
purpose which would look rather out of place in a house, or protect the
cable with conduit etc behind the skirting. The regs people think you're
likely to drill holes in skirting to hang pictures up.

--
*Why do psychics have to ask you for your name? *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

[email protected] December 30th 06 02:23 AM

Hollow skirting boards?
 
wrote:
Scott wrote:


Anyone know where I can get hollow skirting boards. I need to run some
cable and seemed a good idea if I can put it in a some hollow skirting
boards. So far, none of the diy sheds websites say they do such a thing


An alternative is to make some up from either plank & moulding or
skirting & standoff strips


Apparently some are being dense today. Since its not in one of the
zones where unprotected wiring is permitted obviously sheet steel would
need to be put in the groove to cover the wires. I dont see anything
espectially difficult about that, unless I'm missing something.


NT


Stuart Noble December 30th 06 10:36 AM

Hollow skirting boards?
 

Apparently some are being dense today. Since its not in one of the
zones where unprotected wiring is permitted obviously sheet steel would
need to be put in the groove to cover the wires


Obviously. Hardly worth mentioning really :-)


.. I dont see anything
espectially difficult about that, unless I'm missing something.


NT


[email protected] December 30th 06 10:53 AM

Hollow skirting boards?
 
Stuart Noble wrote:

Apparently some are being dense today. Since its not in one of the
zones where unprotected wiring is permitted obviously sheet steel would
need to be put in the groove to cover the wires


Obviously. Hardly worth mentioning really :-)


I didnt think the concept of these zones or the use of capping would be
a novel idea to people.


NT


Ian Stirling December 30th 06 12:32 PM

Hollow skirting boards?
 
wrote:
wrote:
Scott wrote:


Anyone know where I can get hollow skirting boards. I need to run some
cable and seemed a good idea if I can put it in a some hollow skirting
boards. So far, none of the diy sheds websites say they do such a thing


An alternative is to make some up from either plank & moulding or
skirting & standoff strips


Apparently some are being dense today. Since its not in one of the
zones where unprotected wiring is permitted obviously sheet steel would
need to be put in the groove to cover the wires. I dont see anything
espectially difficult about that, unless I'm missing something.


Earth?

[email protected] December 30th 06 03:30 PM

Hollow skirting boards?
 
Ian Stirling wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
Scott wrote:


Anyone know where I can get hollow skirting boards. I need to run some
cable and seemed a good idea if I can put it in a some hollow skirting
boards. So far, none of the diy sheds websites say they do such a thing


An alternative is to make some up from either plank & moulding or
skirting & standoff strips


Apparently some are being dense today. Since its not in one of the
zones where unprotected wiring is permitted obviously sheet steel would
need to be put in the groove to cover the wires. I dont see anything
espectially difficult about that, unless I'm missing something.


Earth?


Hole, screw, same as any other metalwork that needs earthing.

Maybe I should have added add dont put the skirting with wiring in the
pool.

/grump


NT


Ian Stirling December 30th 06 04:13 PM

Hollow skirting boards?
 
wrote:
Ian Stirling wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
Scott wrote:


Anyone know where I can get hollow skirting boards. I need to run some
cable and seemed a good idea if I can put it in a some hollow skirting
boards. So far, none of the diy sheds websites say they do such a thing


An alternative is to make some up from either plank & moulding or
skirting & standoff strips


Apparently some are being dense today. Since its not in one of the
zones where unprotected wiring is permitted obviously sheet steel would
need to be put in the groove to cover the wires. I dont see anything
espectially difficult about that, unless I'm missing something.


Earth?


Hole, screw, same as any other metalwork that needs earthing.


Yeah - I know, I was just pointing out that it needs to be earthed
metal.
I'm replacing all my skirting boards, and putting a wiring void behind
them - I'm unsure if I will put a skin of steel in - but there is 2" of
kingspan in there, so it's less of a concern.
Hmm.
I wonder if earthed kingspan would count :)

Andy Wade December 31st 06 02:20 PM

Hollow skirting boards?
 
Ian Stirling wrote:

Yeah - I know, I was just pointing out that it needs to be earthed
metal.


It doesn't need to be earthed if it's substantial enough to "prevent
penetration of the cable by nails, screws or the like." Otherwise you
can can used earthed steel conduit or one of the prescribed cable types
with earthed armouring or screening, etc. [see Reg. 522-06-06].

--
Andy

[email protected] December 31st 06 03:17 PM

Hollow skirting boards?
 
Ian Stirling wrote:
wrote:
Ian Stirling wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
Scott wrote:


Anyone know where I can get hollow skirting boards. I need to run some
cable and seemed a good idea if I can put it in a some hollow skirting
boards. So far, none of the diy sheds websites say they do such a thing


An alternative is to make some up from either plank & moulding or
skirting & standoff strips


Apparently some are being dense today. Since its not in one of the
zones where unprotected wiring is permitted obviously sheet steel would
need to be put in the groove to cover the wires. I dont see anything
espectially difficult about that, unless I'm missing something.


Earth?


Hole, screw, same as any other metalwork that needs earthing.


Yeah - I know, I was just pointing out that it needs to be earthed
metal.
I'm replacing all my skirting boards, and putting a wiring void behind
them - I'm unsure if I will put a skin of steel in - but there is 2" of
kingspan in there, so it's less of a concern.
Hmm.
I wonder if earthed kingspan would count :)


lol. I spose in this case it would comply.


NT


Mike Dodd December 31st 06 07:32 PM

Hollow skirting boards?
 
Scott wrote:
Hi

Anyone know where I can get hollow skirting boards. I need to run some
cable and seemed a good idea if I can put it in a some hollow skirting
boards. So far, none of the diy sheds websites say they do such a thing


There's a big assumption in many of the replies so far that you're
asking about mains cabling - and if this is the case then I think you'll
have realised by now that this is not permitted without adequate
protection.

IF, however, you're talking about e.g. low power data / CAT-5 cabling, a
seemingly more and more common issue as time goes by... then why not
manufacture your own?, buy the skirting board that you want, turn it
over and run a router, set to cut a sensible depth, down the rear face
to machine out the cable-way that you desire.

p.s. You'll still accidentally drive a nail through the cable, eventually.


Regards

Mike


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