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Sparks October 27th 06 01:52 AM

RFID Chips
 
Not sure if this is on topic here, but I can't seem to find any groups with
RFID in the name!

Does anyone know the requirements for reading the RFID chips installed in
animals?

We have two cats with said "PetLog" chips installed
(http://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/meet/petlog.html)

I have this item
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=130038696905

But it can't seem to read the cat's RFID tags - maybe they are too small
(The chips, not the cats!)?

Any suggestions!?

Ta :-)

Sparks...



Cicero October 27th 06 08:14 AM

RFID Chips
 
On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 01:52:32 +0100, Sparks wrote:

Not sure if this is on topic here, but I can't seem to find any groups with
RFID in the name!

Does anyone know the requirements for reading the RFID chips installed in
animals?

We have two cats with said "PetLog" chips installed
(http://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/meet/petlog.html)

I have this item
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=130038696905

But it can't seem to read the cat's RFID tags - maybe they are too small
(The chips, not the cats!)?

Any suggestions!?

Ta :-)

Sparks...

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Try 'googling' for 'pet chip scanner' where you'll find several references.

Cic.

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Mike Harrison October 27th 06 09:42 AM

RFID Chips
 
On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 01:52:32 +0100, "Sparks" wrote:

Not sure if this is on topic here, but I can't seem to find any groups with
RFID in the name!

Does anyone know the requirements for reading the RFID chips installed in
animals?

We have two cats with said "PetLog" chips installed
(http://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/meet/petlog.html)

I have this item
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=130038696905

But it can't seem to read the cat's RFID tags - maybe they are too small
(The chips, not the cats!)?

Any suggestions!?

Ta :-)

Sparks...

There are a number of different formats, and 2 different frequencies used for these. There are
standards for pet tags, and ISTR they are different from the more commonly used tags for probably
historical rather than technical reasons.
There is a second issue that the small size of the pet tag's antenna means that the reader needs to
produce a fairly powerful field to read them, and a door-lock type reader may not put out enough
power to activate the tag at the required distance.

[email protected] October 27th 06 12:16 PM

RFID Chips
 


On Oct 27, 1:52 am, "Sparks" wrote:
Not sure if this is on topic here, but I can't seem to find any groups with
RFID in the name!

Does anyone know the requirements for reading the RFID chips installed in
animals?

We have two cats with said "PetLog" chips installed
(http://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/meet/petlog.html)

I have this itemhttp://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130038696905

But it can't seem to read the cat's RFID tags - maybe they are too small
(The chips, not the cats!)?


There are multiple protocols and frequencies. Try asking Mannings
http://www.rfidshop.com/

MBQ


Timothy Murphy October 27th 06 01:41 PM

RFID Chips
 
wrote:

There are multiple protocols and frequencies. Try asking Mannings
http://www.rfidshop.com/

Are there really lots of incompatible RFID protocols?
Seems sad.

Also, I thought Tesco said they were going over to RFID on their products?
Maybe I misunderstood, but I haven't seen any.
If there were, could I read my e-passport (which I don't have yet)
with the same reader as a tin of baked beans?

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nightjar October 27th 06 05:58 PM

RFID Chips
 

"Sparks" wrote in message
...
Not sure if this is on topic here, but I can't seem to find any groups
with RFID in the name!

Does anyone know the requirements for reading the RFID chips installed in
animals?

We have two cats with said "PetLog" chips installed
(http://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/meet/petlog.html)

I have this item
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=130038696905

But it can't seem to read the cat's RFID tags - maybe they are too small
(The chips, not the cats!)?


Apparently, cats are particularly difficult to read anyway. The chips can
migrate around under their skin, so the first task is finding where the chip
actually is.

Colin Bignell



Geo October 27th 06 06:12 PM

RFID Chips
 
On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 01:52:32 +0100, "Sparks" wrote:

Not sure if this is on topic here, but I can't seem to find any groups with
RFID in the name!

Your door reader operates at 125kHz but the pet chip may be a 132.5kHz device
according to:-
"Europe uses International Standards Organisation (ISO) regulation chips, which
operate at a frequency of 132.5 kHz (also known as FDX-B chips), while the US
uses an older style, 125 kHz chip (known as FDX-A). "

quote comes from this article:-
http://technology.guardian.co.uk/weekly/story/0,,1710249,00.html

Geo

gort October 27th 06 08:00 PM

RFID Chips
 

Are there really lots of incompatible RFID protocols?
Seems sad.


You think thats sad ?, you should look at barcodes!

Dave

Peter Parry October 27th 06 10:37 PM

RFID Chips
 
On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 17:58:58 +0100, "nightjar" nightjar@insert my
surname here.uk.com wrote:



Apparently, cats are particularly difficult


Indeed so.

the first task is finding where the chip
actually is.


Wrong, the first task is to find where the cat actually is.
Schrödinger had a small Tabby cat and understood cat location
difficulties as few have since. Where the cat appears to be, and
where it actually is, are often some distance apart. Add to that the
difficulty of locating the cat in the temporal plane and you have a
conundrum an RFID reader is far to primitive to solve.

--
Peter Parry.
http://www.wpp.ltd.uk/


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