Recently had the misfortune of a bird dropping in to the top of the
chimney. We could hear it flapping about and boy did it make a mess.
The complete lounge carpet was covered with a fine mist of soot, worse
by the hearth and progressively thinner the further it travelled.
Kitchen is some 20 feet away and that took 5 mops to get ris of the
soot. Don't know what happenned to bird. It never dropped right down so
it either died or got out.
Kind of reminds me of the time I got a call at work from SWMBO. "Nig
their's a blackbird in the dining room". Me thinks Ha, I'll sort this
out and enters dining room with pillow case. H'mm, bloody big
blackbird, its a bloody crow. Any way he was having none of it and
fearing for the bay window and the crow, I managed to chuck a dust
sheet over him. Amazing how he calmed right down. Scoops him up and put
him on the front lawn. Remove dust sheet, get the obligitory telling
off from crow and off he goes.
Any way, bought 4 cowls for top of chimneys. Been watching the birds
for a week and they are in and out of the top of the pots. Yesterday I
decided to evict them. Puts ladder up front and armed with the 4 cowls
scrambled up roof and chimmied me way along the ridge. The crows all
cleared off as soon as the ladders went up the front. I was in the
process off hanging on to three cowls, one in thover hand balancing on
ridge and trying to insert said cowl at arms length into the top of one
pot when a crow decides to see what i'm up to. Circling approx 10 foot
above me head he is taking rather an interest. So were his mates as in
the next few minutes there was about a dozen off then all circling over
head. I must admit that I was getting rather un easy. Took a look
around and there was no quick exit for me. Flapped me arm around and
yelled at them and they took flight and sat in a tree, not too far
away, where they observed. Me quickleys put cowls in top of pots and
scurries back down the roof and back on to terra firma. Me god, me legs
were shaking.
Do they attack people?

Legin

On 25 Oct 2006 23:32:11 -0700, "legin"
wrote:

I was in the
|process off hanging on to three cowls, one in thover hand balancing on
|ridge and trying to insert said cowl at arms length into the top of one
|pot when a crow decides to see what i'm up to. Circling approx 10 foot
|above me head he is taking rather an interest. So were his mates as in
|the next few minutes there was about a dozen off then all circling over
|head. I must admit that I was getting rather un easy.

Get your hard hat out.
I was at a nature reserve which supplied hard hats for visitors, some with
a long cane taped to it pointing upwards, to deter the birds. I wore my
cricketers sun hat which ended up with bird lime on it :-(
--
Dave Fawthrop dave hyphenologist co uk Google Groups is IME the *worst*
method of accessing usenet. GG subscribers would be well advised get a
newsreader, say Agent, and a newsserver, say news.individual.net. These
will allow them: to see only *new* posts, a killfile, and other goodies.

In article .com,
legin wrote:

Do they attack people?

Stones. You need to stone the crows. Or so I'm told ...

Well someone had to say it.

I have been dive-bombed by small sparrows/robbins/bluetit things in
the past, when trying to collect the last of the grapes off my vine and
the little birds having other thoughts ...

Gordon

In article .com,
legin writes
Recently had the misfortune of a bird dropping in to the top of the
chimney. We could hear it flapping about and boy did it make a mess.
The complete lounge carpet was covered with a fine mist of soot, worse
by the hearth and progressively thinner the further it travelled.
Kitchen is some 20 feet away and that took 5 mops to get ris of the
soot. Don't know what happenned to bird. It never dropped right down so
it either died or got out.
Kind of reminds me of the time I got a call at work from SWMBO. "Nig
their's a blackbird in the dining room". Me thinks Ha, I'll sort this
out and enters dining room with pillow case. H'mm, bloody big
blackbird, its a bloody crow. Any way he was having none of it and
fearing for the bay window and the crow, I managed to chuck a dust
sheet over him. Amazing how he calmed right down. Scoops him up and put
him on the front lawn. Remove dust sheet, get the obligitory telling
off from crow and off he goes.
Any way, bought 4 cowls for top of chimneys. Been watching the birds
for a week and they are in and out of the top of the pots. Yesterday I
decided to evict them. Puts ladder up front and armed with the 4 cowls
scrambled up roof and chimmied me way along the ridge. The crows all
cleared off as soon as the ladders went up the front. I was in the
process off hanging on to three cowls, one in thover hand balancing on
ridge and trying to insert said cowl at arms length into the top of one
pot when a crow decides to see what i'm up to. Circling approx 10 foot
above me head he is taking rather an interest. So were his mates as in
the next few minutes there was about a dozen off then all circling over
head. I must admit that I was getting rather un easy. Took a look
around and there was no quick exit for me. Flapped me arm around and
yelled at them and they took flight and sat in a tree, not too far
away, where they observed. Me quickleys put cowls in top of pots and
scurries back down the roof and back on to terra firma. Me god, me legs
were shaking.
Do they attack people?

Legin


Get yourself a good .22, they'll so learn to terrorise someone else:-)
--
Tony Sayer

In article .com,
legin writes
Recently had the misfortune of a bird dropping in to the top of the
chimney. We could hear it flapping about and boy did it make a mess.
The complete lounge carpet was covered with a fine mist of soot, worse
by the hearth and progressively thinner the further it travelled.
Kitchen is some 20 feet away and that took 5 mops to get ris of the
soot. Don't know what happenned to bird. It never dropped right down so
it either died or got out.
Kind of reminds me of the time I got a call at work from SWMBO. "Nig
their's a blackbird in the dining room". Me thinks Ha, I'll sort this
out and enters dining room with pillow case. H'mm, bloody big
blackbird, its a bloody crow. Any way he was having none of it and
fearing for the bay window and the crow, I managed to chuck a dust
sheet over him. Amazing how he calmed right down. Scoops him up and put
him on the front lawn. Remove dust sheet, get the obligitory telling
off from crow and off he goes.
Any way, bought 4 cowls for top of chimneys. Been watching the birds
for a week and they are in and out of the top of the pots. Yesterday I
decided to evict them. Puts ladder up front and armed with the 4 cowls
scrambled up roof and chimmied me way along the ridge. The crows all
cleared off as soon as the ladders went up the front. I was in the
process off hanging on to three cowls, one in thover hand balancing on
ridge and trying to insert said cowl at arms length into the top of one
pot when a crow decides to see what i'm up to. Circling approx 10 foot
above me head he is taking rather an interest. So were his mates as in
the next few minutes there was about a dozen off then all circling over
head. I must admit that I was getting rather un easy. Took a look
around and there was no quick exit for me. Flapped me arm around and
yelled at them and they took flight and sat in a tree, not too far
away, where they observed. Me quickleys put cowls in top of pots and
scurries back down the roof and back on to terra firma. Me god, me legs
were shaking.
Do they attack people?

Legin


Get yourself a good .22, they'll soon learn to terrorise someone else:-)
--
Tony Sayer

tony sayer wrote:
In article .com,
legin writes
Recently had the misfortune of a bird dropping in to the top of the
chimney. We could hear it flapping about and boy did it make a mess.
The complete lounge carpet was covered with a fine mist of soot, worse
by the hearth and progressively thinner the further it travelled.
Kitchen is some 20 feet away and that took 5 mops to get ris of the
soot. Don't know what happenned to bird. It never dropped right down so
it either died or got out.
Kind of reminds me of the time I got a call at work from SWMBO. "Nig
their's a blackbird in the dining room". Me thinks Ha, I'll sort this
out and enters dining room with pillow case. H'mm, bloody big
blackbird, its a bloody crow. Any way he was having none of it and
fearing for the bay window and the crow, I managed to chuck a dust
sheet over him. Amazing how he calmed right down. Scoops him up and put
him on the front lawn. Remove dust sheet, get the obligitory telling
off from crow and off he goes.
Any way, bought 4 cowls for top of chimneys. Been watching the birds
for a week and they are in and out of the top of the pots. Yesterday I
decided to evict them. Puts ladder up front and armed with the 4 cowls
scrambled up roof and chimmied me way along the ridge. The crows all
cleared off as soon as the ladders went up the front. I was in the
process off hanging on to three cowls, one in thover hand balancing on
ridge and trying to insert said cowl at arms length into the top of one
pot when a crow decides to see what i'm up to. Circling approx 10 foot
above me head he is taking rather an interest. So were his mates as in
the next few minutes there was about a dozen off then all circling over
head. I must admit that I was getting rather un easy. Took a look
around and there was no quick exit for me. Flapped me arm around and
yelled at them and they took flight and sat in a tree, not too far
away, where they observed. Me quickleys put cowls in top of pots and
scurries back down the roof and back on to terra firma. Me god, me legs
were shaking.
Do they attack people?

Legin


Get yourself a good .22, they'll so learn to terrorise someone else:-)
--
Tony Sayer

Yep, works here, shoot a few and the rest get the message for the rest
of the year !

In article om,
Staffbull wrote:

Yep, works here, shoot a few and the rest get the message for the
rest of the year !

My old farmer pal had been a gamekeeper in a
pheasantry in his younger days. Gamekeepers
do not like crows around stock, but crows get
smart and disappear as soon as as they see a
man with a gun, and stay away until they see
the man walk away. So what these old keepers
would do is that two of them would walk to the
hide, and one of them would visibly walk back.
As far as the crows were concerned it was then
safe to return..... One of John's stock cackles
was "crows can't count!".

Crows are very territorial this time of year,
and will mob anything that approaches their
future nesting site. A buzzard is a huge
bird, something like a 5ft wingspan, and I
saw just one crow harrass a buzzard to the
ground last week.

--
Tony Williams.

Tony Williams wrote:
In article om,
Staffbull wrote:

Yep, works here, shoot a few and the rest get the message for the
rest of the year !

My old farmer pal had been a gamekeeper in a
pheasantry in his younger days. Gamekeepers
do not like crows around stock, but crows get
smart and disappear as soon as as they see a
man with a gun, and stay away until they see
the man walk away. So what these old keepers
would do is that two of them would walk to the
hide, and one of them would visibly walk back.
As far as the crows were concerned it was then
safe to return..... One of John's stock cackles
was "crows can't count!".

Crows are very territorial this time of year,
and will mob anything that approaches their
future nesting site. A buzzard is a huge
bird, something like a 5ft wingspan, and I
saw just one crow harrass a buzzard to the
ground last week.

--
Tony Williams.

Yep, the crows hammer the hell out of the buzzards in the back woods
here too, ipmressive to watch

"tony sayer" wrote in message
...


Get yourself a good .22, they'll so learn to terrorise someone else:-)

I have some tried and tested recipies for crow, if anyone's interested.

Mary

--
Tony Sayer

Mary Fisher wrote:
"tony sayer" wrote in message
...


Get yourself a good .22, they'll so learn to terrorise someone else:-)

I have some tried and tested recipies for crow, if anyone's interested.

Mary

--
Tony Sayer


does it taste like chicken or more gamey

On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 10:00:07 +0100, tony sayer
wrote:

In article .com,
legin writes
Recently had the misfortune of a bird dropping in to the top of the
chimney. We could hear it flapping about and boy did it make a mess.
The complete lounge carpet was covered with a fine mist of soot, worse
by the hearth and progressively thinner the further it travelled.
Kitchen is some 20 feet away and that took 5 mops to get ris of the
soot. Don't know what happenned to bird. It never dropped right down so
it either died or got out.
Kind of reminds me of the time I got a call at work from SWMBO. "Nig
their's a blackbird in the dining room". Me thinks Ha, I'll sort this
out and enters dining room with pillow case. H'mm, bloody big
blackbird, its a bloody crow. Any way he was having none of it and
fearing for the bay window and the crow, I managed to chuck a dust
sheet over him. Amazing how he calmed right down. Scoops him up and put
him on the front lawn. Remove dust sheet, get the obligitory telling
off from crow and off he goes.
Any way, bought 4 cowls for top of chimneys. Been watching the birds
for a week and they are in and out of the top of the pots. Yesterday I
decided to evict them. Puts ladder up front and armed with the 4 cowls
scrambled up roof and chimmied me way along the ridge. The crows all
cleared off as soon as the ladders went up the front. I was in the
process off hanging on to three cowls, one in thover hand balancing on
ridge and trying to insert said cowl at arms length into the top of one
pot when a crow decides to see what i'm up to. Circling approx 10 foot
above me head he is taking rather an interest. So were his mates as in
the next few minutes there was about a dozen off then all circling over
head. I must admit that I was getting rather un easy. Took a look
around and there was no quick exit for me. Flapped me arm around and
yelled at them and they took flight and sat in a tree, not too far
away, where they observed. Me quickleys put cowls in top of pots and
scurries back down the roof and back on to terra firma. Me god, me legs
were shaking.
Do they attack people?

Legin


Get yourself a good .22, they'll soon learn to terrorise someone else:-)

WOuld that require a FAC?

In article , marvelus
writes
On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 10:00:07 +0100, tony sayer
wrote:

In article .com,
legin writes
Recently had the misfortune of a bird dropping in to the top of the
chimney. We could hear it flapping about and boy did it make a mess.
The complete lounge carpet was covered with a fine mist of soot, worse
by the hearth and progressively thinner the further it travelled.
Kitchen is some 20 feet away and that took 5 mops to get ris of the
soot. Don't know what happenned to bird. It never dropped right down so
it either died or got out.
Kind of reminds me of the time I got a call at work from SWMBO. "Nig
their's a blackbird in the dining room". Me thinks Ha, I'll sort this
out and enters dining room with pillow case. H'mm, bloody big
blackbird, its a bloody crow. Any way he was having none of it and
fearing for the bay window and the crow, I managed to chuck a dust
sheet over him. Amazing how he calmed right down. Scoops him up and put
him on the front lawn. Remove dust sheet, get the obligitory telling
off from crow and off he goes.
Any way, bought 4 cowls for top of chimneys. Been watching the birds
for a week and they are in and out of the top of the pots. Yesterday I
decided to evict them. Puts ladder up front and armed with the 4 cowls
scrambled up roof and chimmied me way along the ridge. The crows all
cleared off as soon as the ladders went up the front. I was in the
process off hanging on to three cowls, one in thover hand balancing on
ridge and trying to insert said cowl at arms length into the top of one
pot when a crow decides to see what i'm up to. Circling approx 10 foot
above me head he is taking rather an interest. So were his mates as in
the next few minutes there was about a dozen off then all circling over
head. I must admit that I was getting rather un easy. Took a look
around and there was no quick exit for me. Flapped me arm around and
yelled at them and they took flight and sat in a tree, not too far
away, where they observed. Me quickleys put cowls in top of pots and
scurries back down the roof and back on to terra firma. Me god, me legs
were shaking.
Do they attack people?

Legin


Get yourself a good .22, they'll soon learn to terrorise someone else:-)

WOuld that require a FAC?


Read all abaht it here

http://www.basc.org.uk/content/airriflepractice
--
Tony Sayer

legin wrote:

Do they attack people?

It has been my experience that the bigger the bird, the more frightened
of you they are.

I have a part time job at a primary school and the pied wagtails will
tolerate you at a distance of about 2 M. The magpies to about 6 M The
crows will double this distance. However, the rooks will take flight at
more than 50 M.

Dave

"Staffbull" wrote in message
ups.com...

Mary Fisher wrote:
"tony sayer" wrote in message
...


Get yourself a good .22, they'll so learn to terrorise someone else:-)

I have some tried and tested recipies for crow, if anyone's interested.

Mary

--
Tony Sayer


does it taste like chicken or more gamey

Neither.

Mary

On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 19:57:25 +0100, Dave
wrote:

legin wrote:

Do they attack people?

It has been my experience that the bigger the bird, the more frightened
of you they are.

I have a part time job at a primary school and the pied wagtails will
tolerate you at a distance of about 2 M. The magpies to about 6 M The
crows will double this distance. However, the rooks will take flight at
more than 50 M.

Possibly more a function of how much each type of bird was eaten in
the past.


--
Regards, Paul Herber, Sandrila Ltd. http://www.pherber.com/
Electrical for Visio http://www.electrical.sandrila.co.uk/

legin wrote:
Recently had the misfortune of a bird dropping in to the top of the
chimney. We could hear it flapping about and boy did it make a mess.
The complete lounge carpet was covered with a fine mist of soot, worse
by the hearth and progressively thinner the further it travelled.
Kitchen is some 20 feet away and that took 5 mops to get ris of the
soot. Don't know what happenned to bird. It never dropped right down so
it either died or got out.
Kind of reminds me of the time I got a call at work from SWMBO. "Nig
their's a blackbird in the dining room". Me thinks Ha, I'll sort this
out and enters dining room with pillow case. H'mm, bloody big
blackbird, its a bloody crow. Any way he was having none of it and
fearing for the bay window and the crow, I managed to chuck a dust
sheet over him. Amazing how he calmed right down. Scoops him up and put
him on the front lawn. Remove dust sheet, get the obligitory telling
off from crow and off he goes.
Any way, bought 4 cowls for top of chimneys. Been watching the birds
for a week and they are in and out of the top of the pots. Yesterday I
decided to evict them. Puts ladder up front and armed with the 4 cowls
scrambled up roof and chimmied me way along the ridge. The crows all
cleared off as soon as the ladders went up the front. I was in the
process off hanging on to three cowls, one in thover hand balancing on
ridge and trying to insert said cowl at arms length into the top of one
pot when a crow decides to see what i'm up to. Circling approx 10 foot
above me head he is taking rather an interest. So were his mates as in
the next few minutes there was about a dozen off then all circling over
head. I must admit that I was getting rather un easy. Took a look
around and there was no quick exit for me. Flapped me arm around and
yelled at them and they took flight and sat in a tree, not too far
away, where they observed. Me quickleys put cowls in top of pots and
scurries back down the roof and back on to terra firma. Me god, me legs
were shaking.
Do they attack people?

Legin

I once shot a crow when they were eating my vegetables and several
immediately attacked me and I had to run for cover.
Its unusual for them to be interested in your chimney pots until mid
March especially as it wasnt an existing nest.
You were damn lucky that they didnt knock you off the roof.

In article .com,
writes

legin wrote:
Recently had the misfortune of a bird dropping in to the top of the
chimney. We could hear it flapping about and boy did it make a mess.
The complete lounge carpet was covered with a fine mist of soot, worse
by the hearth and progressively thinner the further it travelled.
Kitchen is some 20 feet away and that took 5 mops to get ris of the
soot. Don't know what happenned to bird. It never dropped right down so
it either died or got out.
Kind of reminds me of the time I got a call at work from SWMBO. "Nig
their's a blackbird in the dining room". Me thinks Ha, I'll sort this
out and enters dining room with pillow case. H'mm, bloody big
blackbird, its a bloody crow. Any way he was having none of it and
fearing for the bay window and the crow, I managed to chuck a dust
sheet over him. Amazing how he calmed right down. Scoops him up and put
him on the front lawn. Remove dust sheet, get the obligitory telling
off from crow and off he goes.
Any way, bought 4 cowls for top of chimneys. Been watching the birds
for a week and they are in and out of the top of the pots. Yesterday I
decided to evict them. Puts ladder up front and armed with the 4 cowls
scrambled up roof and chimmied me way along the ridge. The crows all
cleared off as soon as the ladders went up the front. I was in the
process off hanging on to three cowls, one in thover hand balancing on
ridge and trying to insert said cowl at arms length into the top of one
pot when a crow decides to see what i'm up to. Circling approx 10 foot
above me head he is taking rather an interest. So were his mates as in
the next few minutes there was about a dozen off then all circling over
head. I must admit that I was getting rather un easy. Took a look
around and there was no quick exit for me. Flapped me arm around and
yelled at them and they took flight and sat in a tree, not too far
away, where they observed. Me quickleys put cowls in top of pots and
scurries back down the roof and back on to terra firma. Me god, me legs
were shaking.
Do they attack people?

Legin

I once shot a crow when they were eating my vegetables and several
immediately attacked me and I had to run for cover.

Machine gun ?.. now theres a d-i-y project ;-)...

Its unusual for them to be interested in your chimney pots until mid
March especially as it wasnt an existing nest.
You were damn lucky that they didnt knock you off the roof.

No doubt their getting bolder all the time.

But whenever theres a pidgin in our backyard one sight of the airgun
barrel and he's out-a-here but just down the road you can drive up to
them on the side of the road, and they don't even acknowledge your
presence!.........
--
Tony Sayer

tony sayer wrote:
In article .com,
writes
legin wrote:
Recently had the misfortune of a bird dropping in to the top of the
chimney. We could hear it flapping about and boy did it make a mess.
The complete lounge carpet was covered with a fine mist of soot, worse
by the hearth and progressively thinner the further it travelled.
Kitchen is some 20 feet away and that took 5 mops to get ris of the
soot. Don't know what happenned to bird. It never dropped right down so
it either died or got out.
Kind of reminds me of the time I got a call at work from SWMBO. "Nig
their's a blackbird in the dining room". Me thinks Ha, I'll sort this
out and enters dining room with pillow case. H'mm, bloody big
blackbird, its a bloody crow. Any way he was having none of it and
fearing for the bay window and the crow, I managed to chuck a dust
sheet over him. Amazing how he calmed right down. Scoops him up and put
him on the front lawn. Remove dust sheet, get the obligitory telling
off from crow and off he goes.
Any way, bought 4 cowls for top of chimneys. Been watching the birds
for a week and they are in and out of the top of the pots. Yesterday I
decided to evict them. Puts ladder up front and armed with the 4 cowls
scrambled up roof and chimmied me way along the ridge. The crows all
cleared off as soon as the ladders went up the front. I was in the
process off hanging on to three cowls, one in thover hand balancing on
ridge and trying to insert said cowl at arms length into the top of one
pot when a crow decides to see what i'm up to. Circling approx 10 foot
above me head he is taking rather an interest. So were his mates as in
the next few minutes there was about a dozen off then all circling over
head. I must admit that I was getting rather un easy. Took a look
around and there was no quick exit for me. Flapped me arm around and
yelled at them and they took flight and sat in a tree, not too far
away, where they observed. Me quickleys put cowls in top of pots and
scurries back down the roof and back on to terra firma. Me god, me legs
were shaking.
Do they attack people?

Legin
I once shot a crow when they were eating my vegetables and several
immediately attacked me and I had to run for cover.

Machine gun ?.. now theres a d-i-y project ;-)...

Its unusual for them to be interested in your chimney pots until mid
March especially as it wasnt an existing nest.
You were damn lucky that they didnt knock you off the roof.

No doubt their getting bolder all the time.

But whenever theres a pidgin in our backyard one sight of the airgun
barrel and he's out-a-here but just down the road you can drive up to
them on the side of the road, and they don't even acknowledge your
presence!.........

Smart they are..

Gordon Henderson wrote:

Do they attack people?

Stones. You need to stone the crows.

RAOTFL

--
change nospam to f2s in e-mail

In article ,
The Natural Philosopher writes:
tony sayer wrote:
But whenever theres a pidgin in our backyard one sight of the airgun
barrel and he's out-a-here but just down the road you can drive up to
them on the side of the road, and they don't even acknowledge your
presence!.........

Smart they are..

but not this one...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/6083468.stm

--
Andrew Gabriel

In article , Andrew Gabriel
writes
In article ,
The Natural Philosopher writes:
tony sayer wrote:
But whenever theres a pidgin in our backyard one sight of the airgun
barrel and he's out-a-here but just down the road you can drive up to
them on the side of the road, and they don't even acknowledge your
presence!.........

Smart they are..

but not this one...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/6083468.stm


Poor old thing!, what a way to go. Looks soooo sad!..

Wonder if it gave the Pelican indigestion?..


Still..

"Oh, a wondrous bird is the pelican!
His bill holds more than his belican.
He can take in his beak
Enough food for a week.
But I'm darned if I know how the helican."

--
Tony Sayer

Paul Herber wrote:
On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 19:57:25 +0100, Dave
wrote:


legin wrote:


Do they attack people?

It has been my experience that the bigger the bird, the more frightened
of you they are.

I have a part time job at a primary school and the pied wagtails will
tolerate you at a distance of about 2 M. The magpies to about 6 M The
crows will double this distance. However, the rooks will take flight at
more than 50 M.


Possibly more a function of how much each type of bird was eaten in
the past.

LOL
I had not thought about that. The route I take to my favourite real ale
pub goes through a pheasant shooting area. They are bred for shooting
and the bloody things refuse to fly out of the way of my car. Perhaps,
the fact that if they fly, they are likely to get shot, may put them off
flying.

Dave

In message , tony sayer
writes
Machine gun ?.. now theres a d-i-y project ;-)...

Http://www.scaar.at/videos/M134aatv.avi



--
Bill

Dave wrote:
Paul Herber wrote:
On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 19:57:25 +0100, Dave
wrote:


legin wrote:


Do they attack people?

It has been my experience that the bigger the bird, the more
frightened of you they are.

I have a part time job at a primary school and the pied wagtails will
tolerate you at a distance of about 2 M. The magpies to about 6 M The
crows will double this distance. However, the rooks will take flight
at more than 50 M.


Possibly more a function of how much each type of bird was eaten in
the past.

LOL
I had not thought about that. The route I take to my favourite real ale
pub goes through a pheasant shooting area. They are bred for shooting
and the bloody things refuse to fly out of the way of my car. Perhaps,
the fact that if they fly, they are likely to get shot, may put them off
flying.


I think its more the fact that they are bred to be stupid: Make them
easier to hit.

Sort of reverse Darwin.


Dave

Owain wrote:
Dave wrote:
I had not thought about that. The route I take to my favourite real
ale pub goes through a pheasant shooting area. They are bred for
shooting and the bloody things refuse to fly out of the way of my car.
Perhaps, the fact that if they fly, they are likely to get shot, may
put them off flying.

If they're on the public (adopted) highway, would it be poaching to pick
them up and take them home?


Only if it was you that hit them.
I have eaten road kill before now.

Owain

In article . net,
Paul Herber writes:
On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 19:57:25 +0100, Dave
wrote:
I have a part time job at a primary school and the pied wagtails will
tolerate you at a distance of about 2 M. The magpies to about 6 M The
crows will double this distance. However, the rooks will take flight at
more than 50 M.

Possibly more a function of how much each type of bird was eaten in
the past.

Which is probably related to how quickly it can get away.
Small birds are very agile, and can also make their escape
through spaces which are too small for you (or preditor).
As you go up to larger and larger birds, they take more time
to start their escape, and have fewer options in terms of
possible escape routes. Therefore, they need to start their
escape much earlier.

--
Andrew Gabriel

"Owain" wrote in message
...
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
If they're on the public (adopted) highway, would it be poaching to pick
them up and take them home?
Only if it was you that hit them.

Supposing you didn't "hit" them but "accidentally" dropped some raisins
through which you had "happened" to push some chopped lengths of
horsehair?

I have eaten road kill before now.

Slightly too much info there.

?

There's nothing wrong with roadkill! We've had hare, pheasant (lots) and
badger. I've never fancied touching a hedgehog since the time we had one in
the garden and I picked it up to show the children. The fleas were jumping
from it and formed a halo. Ugh. Rabbits are usually far too squashed.

Mary

Owain

Owain wrote:
Dave wrote:

I had not thought about that. The route I take to my favourite real
ale pub goes through a pheasant shooting area. They are bred for
shooting and the bloody things refuse to fly out of the way of my car.
Perhaps, the fact that if they fly, they are likely to get shot, may
put them off flying.


If they're on the public (adopted) highway, would it be poaching to pick
them up and take them home?

Trouble is, I couldn't stand to draw one :-(

Dave

Dave wrote:
Owain wrote:
Dave wrote:

I had not thought about that. The route I take to my favourite real
ale pub goes through a pheasant shooting area. They are bred for
shooting and the bloody things refuse to fly out of the way of my
car. Perhaps, the fact that if they fly, they are likely to get shot,
may put them off flying.


If they're on the public (adopted) highway, would it be poaching to
pick them up and take them home?

Trouble is, I couldn't stand to draw one :-(


wuss. Thats the easy bit. Its plucking that is a total PITA.

Dave

"Dave" wrote in message
...
Owain wrote:
Dave wrote:

I had not thought about that. The route I take to my favourite real ale
pub goes through a pheasant shooting area. They are bred for shooting
and the bloody things refuse to fly out of the way of my car. Perhaps,
the fact that if they fly, they are likely to get shot, may put them off
flying.


If they're on the public (adopted) highway, would it be poaching to pick
them up and take them home?

Trouble is, I couldn't stand to draw one :-(

Why?

It's quick and easy. Plucking is a pain so we always skin birds, like hares.

We killed a cockerel last week, that wasn't easy because he was a pet but it
will be easier next time - when we do the deed with his brother. They'll be
Christmas dinner..

If we want to eat meat we should be prepared to do all the processes to get
the animal from field (or pond or sky) to plate, shouldn't we? This is a DIY
ng after all ...

As an aside, I had toe surgery on Friday, I was offered various anaesthetic
procedures but I wouldn't have been allowed to watch if I'd had a local so
opted for a knock-out. There must have been a dozen people who saw what was
going on, yet it was MY toe and I wasn't allowed to see it! Snot fair.

Mary

In message , Mary
Fisher writes

"Dave" wrote in message
...
Owain wrote:
Dave wrote:

I had not thought about that. The route I take to my favourite real ale
pub goes through a pheasant shooting area. They are bred for shooting
and the bloody things refuse to fly out of the way of my car. Perhaps,
the fact that if they fly, they are likely to get shot, may put them off
flying.


If they're on the public (adopted) highway, would it be poaching to pick
them up and take them home?

Trouble is, I couldn't stand to draw one :-(

Why?

It's quick and easy. Plucking is a pain so we always skin birds, like hares.

We killed a cockerel last week, that wasn't easy because he was a pet but it
will be easier next time - when we do the deed with his brother. They'll be
Christmas dinner..

If we want to eat meat we should be prepared to do all the processes to get
the animal from field (or pond or sky) to plate, shouldn't we? This is a DIY
ng after all ...

As an aside, I had toe surgery on Friday, I was offered various anaesthetic
procedures but I wouldn't have been allowed to watch if I'd had a local so
opted for a knock-out. There must have been a dozen people who saw what was
going on, yet it was MY toe and I wasn't allowed to see it! Snot fair.

Is that boxing day lunch then ?


--
geoff

"Owain" wrote in message
...
Mary Fisher wrote:
As an aside, I had toe surgery on Friday, I was offered various
anaesthetic procedures but I wouldn't have been allowed to watch if I'd
had a local so opted for a knock-out. There must have been a dozen people
who saw what was going on, yet it was MY toe and I wasn't allowed to see
it! Snot fair.

Next time ask if they can video it for you.

There won't be a next time, the other foot was done in January :-)

Mary

Owain

The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Dave wrote:

Owain wrote:

Dave wrote:

I had not thought about that. The route I take to my favourite real
ale pub goes through a pheasant shooting area. They are bred for
shooting and the bloody things refuse to fly out of the way of my
car. Perhaps, the fact that if they fly, they are likely to get
shot, may put them off flying.



If they're on the public (adopted) highway, would it be poaching to
pick them up and take them home?


Trouble is, I couldn't stand to draw one :-(


wuss. Thats the easy bit. Its plucking that is a total PITA.

So I have been told in the same pub, by someone who shoots them. What he
does is give a brace to an ex butcher and he plucks and draws then and
then gets to keep one and hands the other back to the shooter.

The reason I am loath to draw one, is from an experience I had many
years ago with a chicken. I just got (un) fed up with the number of eggs
I was pulling out.
I may have gone about this the wrong way, but at the time, it was all I
knew.

Anyone want to start a new thread on bird drawing? Well, it is DIY after
all :-)

I would be very interested in how to draw the smaller birds though.

Dave

Mary Fisher wrote:


If we want to eat meat we should be prepared to do all the processes to get
the animal from field (or pond or sky) to plate, shouldn't we? This is a DIY
ng after all ...

Agreed.

As an aside, I had toe surgery on Friday, I was offered various anaesthetic
procedures but I wouldn't have been allowed to watch if I'd had a local so
opted for a knock-out. There must have been a dozen people who saw what was
going on, yet it was MY toe and I wasn't allowed to see it! Snot fair.

I had a hernia opp more than 30 years ago and was due to get an epidural
(sp) and the buggers would not let me watch either. I had a cataract opp
in 1998. I went in, in my street clothes, was given a drip point at the
back of both wrists and then laid out on the operating table with just a
green sheet over me. The opp took place and I was very disappointed not
to see the improved vision when the lens was implanted.

Next day, though, it looks like I upset the nurse that took off the eye
patch. She was sat over to my right and asked how my vision was. I told
her that I liked what I saw. At that point she went all cold with me.
Mind you she did have a good bum and long legs :-)

Now, you can see all sorts of opps on TV though.

Dave

"Dave" wrote in message
...
Mary Fisher wrote:


I had a hernia opp more than 30 years ago and was due to get an epidural
(sp) and the buggers would not let me watch either. I had a cataract opp
in 1998. I went in, in my street clothes, was given a drip point at the
back of both wrists and then laid out on the operating table with just a
green sheet over me. The opp took place and I was very disappointed not to
see the improved vision when the lens was implanted.

Next day, though, it looks like I upset the nurse that took off the eye
patch. She was sat over to my right and asked how my vision was. I told
her that I liked what I saw. At that point she went all cold with me. Mind
you she did have a good bum and long legs :-)

Now, you can see all sorts of opps on TV though.

Only if you have one!

Mary

Dave

"Dave" wrote in message
...
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Dave wrote:

Owain wrote:

Dave wrote:

I had not thought about that. The route I take to my favourite real
ale pub goes through a pheasant shooting area. They are bred for
shooting and the bloody things refuse to fly out of the way of my car.
Perhaps, the fact that if they fly, they are likely to get shot, may
put them off flying.



If they're on the public (adopted) highway, would it be poaching to
pick them up and take them home?


Trouble is, I couldn't stand to draw one :-(


wuss. Thats the easy bit. Its plucking that is a total PITA.

That's why skinning is better.

So I have been told in the same pub, by someone who shoots them. What he
does is give a brace to an ex butcher and he plucks and draws then and
then gets to keep one and hands the other back to the shooter.

The reason I am loath to draw one, is from an experience I had many years
ago with a chicken. I just got (un) fed up with the number of eggs I was
pulling out.
I may have gone about this the wrong way, but at the time, it was all I
knew.

It's unlikely to happen again, these days chickens reared for the table
aren't old enough to begin laying.

Anyone want to start a new thread on bird drawing? Well, it is DIY after
all :-)

I would be very interested in how to draw the smaller birds though.

The same as with a bigger bird! Except that with something like a woodcock
you don't bother. The 'trail' is eaten.

Mary

Dave