Friend with only and immersion heater to heat the DHW is seeking advice
about an electric shower. I have offered to do the pipework but he will need
an electrician.

Which shower unit is viewed by the experts as being a particularly good one?
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John

John wrote:

Friend with only and immersion heater to heat the DHW is seeking advice
about an electric shower. I have offered to do the pipework but he will need
an electrician.

Which shower unit is viewed by the experts as being a particularly good one?

"Electric shower" as in electrially heated rather than pumped I take it?

If so then the answer is that none of them are particaulrly good from a
showering point of view (too little flow rate - especially when the
incoming water is cold in the winter).

As to brand, to an extent any are probably good enough. The Triton and
Mira brands will offer better spares and after sales than many, however
the replacement cost is low enough in many cases this matters less. The
major cost of installing a new electric shower is laying on the
electrical supply for it. Depending on where you are starting from this
can run into several hundreds.

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Cheers,

John.

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John wrote:

Friend with only and immersion heater to heat the DHW is seeking advice
about an electric shower. I have offered to do the pipework but he will need
an electrician.

Which shower unit is viewed by the experts as being a particularly good one?

You'd do much better to use a mixer shower run off the tanked hot water
than an electric shower. Perhaps thats what you meant anyway.

NT

In article , John
Rumm wrote:
The
major cost of installing a new electric shower is laying on the
electrical supply for it. Depending on where you are starting from this
can run into several hundreds.

Example
When I put the shower into my flat, the shower cost about £100
(from Wickes, while they still operated in this country) ; a 30m reel of
40A cable was about £40 ; a second mini-consumer unit with 36A RCD breaker
and a set of junction blocks and new tails was another £55 ; switches were
about £20 (I had to get 2 when one of the critical grub screws went
plummeting into the depths) and it took about 10 hours of fiddling and
****ing with the cables because these are a lot harder to work with than
ring-main twin+earth, plus several hours for the plumbing work. I was
doing a lot of other work at the time and "discovering" things, so it took
a lot longer than it sounds.
Materials : Work :
Shower £100 Electrical 10h@£10/h
Cable £40 Plumbing+decor 5h@£10/h
Barriers + CU £55
Switches_________£20______________________________ _______
Sub totals £215 ~ £150

If you don't have a cellar you can run the cables into, you can add
as much as you want for decorative work in addition. And I'm not counting
taking the bath out to get at the plumbing, because I was going to do that
anyway to deal with a weeping joint and some decorative work. That would
double the works cost easily.

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Aidan
Aberdeen, Scotland
Written at Sun, 22 Oct 2006 12:59 +0100, but posted later.

On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 13:29:59 +0100, Aidan Karley
.group wrote:

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Example
When I put the shower into my flat, the shower cost about £100
(from Wickes, while they still operated in this country)


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Eh.? www.wickes.co.uk

Stuart

In article , Stuart wrote:
Eh.? www.wickes.co.uk

No more Wickes in Scotland, or not any part that I can reach
anyway - I think I saw one distantly through a coach window while we
were visiting Edinburgh last year. 3~4 hours each way is effectively
non-existant.
Shame - I much preferred the attitude and service at Wickes, but
now it's a choice of a B+Q barn or searching out 32 different shops for
each type of supply needed.

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Aidan
Aberdeen, Scotland
Written at Mon, 23 Oct 2006 10:41 +0100, but posted later.

John Rumm wrote:
Friend with only and immersion heater to heat the DHW is seeking
advice about an electric shower. I have offered to do the pipework
but he will need an electrician.

Which shower unit is viewed by the experts as being a particularly
good one?

"Electric shower" as in electrially heated rather than pumped I take
it?
If so then the answer is that none of them are particaulrly good from
a showering point of view (too little flow rate - especially when the
incoming water is cold in the winter).

It's worth noting, however, that any money saved by using a more
cost-effective form of water heating is more than offset by the increased
flow rate of a good power shower. The luxury comes at a price.

I'm quite happy with the flow rate from my electric shower, and the overall
experience is much better than several rather indifferent power showers I've
had the misfortune to use. I particularly dislike the ones where the
controls are situated in the shower cubicle in such a way that you are
almost guaranteed to knock into them, or where the temperature and flow
controls operate in some mathematically chaotic region so that it takes ages
to adjust them to my satisfaction.

Having said that, the most satisfying shower I've ever used was in a hotel
in Birmingham. Phenomenal flow rate, but not much good for the environment.
I probably used 3 times as much water as if I'd taken a bath!

On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 12:07:09 +0100, Aidan Karley
.group wrote:

In article , Stuart wrote:
Eh.? www.wickes.co.uk

No more Wickes in Scotland, or not any part that I can reach
anyway - I think I saw one distantly through a coach window while we
were visiting Edinburgh last year. 3~4 hours each way is effectively
non-existant.
Shame - I much preferred the attitude and service at Wickes, but
now it's a choice of a B+Q barn or searching out 32 different shops for
each type of supply needed.


Yeah .I can see the problem .Perth,Inverness or Dundee would be a bit of a trek
I suppose .

On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 17:30:46 GMT someone who may be "John"
wrote this:-

Friend with only and immersion heater to heat the DHW is seeking advice
about an electric shower. I have offered to do the pipework but he will need
an electrician.

Assuming a gravity shower would suffer from too low a head, why not
consider a venturi shower? No wiring in either case.


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