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Malcolm Stewart September 25th 06 04:40 PM

Small parts gold plating
 
I'm into amateur sound recordings using electret microphones. These require
a low voltage, ~ 2.2v, which is supplied by the camcorder or Minidisc
recorder via the signal lead. Consequently for low noise recordings it is
essential that the 3.5mm plugs and sockets between the microphone and
recorder aren't suffering from handling noise caused by oxide on the
contacts. Where possible I've obtained gold-plated plugs from headphone
leads, but the choice on offer* doesn't cover my precise configuration, and
I do get handling noise.
(*I've looked at CPC-Farnell, Maplin & RS websites recently.)

Can anyone recommend a UK based gold plating service which might be able to
plate the nickel(?) coated plugs and sockets which I can obtain easily. And
at a reasonable price for very small numbers.

Thanks in adavance

--
M Stewart
Milton Keynes, UK



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Joules Beech September 25th 06 04:59 PM

Small parts gold plating
 
Malcolm Stewart wrote:
I'm into amateur sound recordings using electret microphones. These require
a low voltage, ~ 2.2v, which is supplied by the camcorder or Minidisc
recorder via the signal lead. Consequently for low noise recordings it is
essential that the 3.5mm plugs and sockets between the microphone and
recorder aren't suffering from handling noise caused by oxide on the
contacts. Where possible I've obtained gold-plated plugs from headphone
leads, but the choice on offer* doesn't cover my precise configuration, and
I do get handling noise.
(*I've looked at CPC-Farnell, Maplin & RS websites recently.)

Can anyone recommend a UK based gold plating service which might be able to
plate the nickel(?) coated plugs and sockets which I can obtain easily. And
at a reasonable price for very small numbers.

Thanks in adavance



Try your local jeweller, not high street chain.....



Joules

Andy Wade September 25th 06 05:05 PM

Small parts gold plating
 
Malcolm Stewart wrote:

I'm into amateur sound recordings using electret microphones. These require
a low voltage, ~ 2.2v, which is supplied by the camcorder or Minidisc
recorder via the signal lead. Consequently for low noise recordings it is
essential that the 3.5mm plugs and sockets between the microphone and
recorder aren't suffering from handling noise caused by oxide on the
contacts. Where possible I've obtained gold-plated plugs from headphone
leads, but the choice on offer* doesn't cover my precise configuration, and
I do get handling noise.
(*I've looked at CPC-Farnell, Maplin & RS websites recently.)


I'm just wondering whether what you need is a low-noise cable, rather
than gold-plated plugs - something like RS stock no. 367-296, perhaps.

--
Andy

Nick September 25th 06 05:56 PM

Small parts gold plating
 

"Malcolm Stewart" wrote in
message .. .
I'm into amateur sound recordings using electret microphones. These
require a low voltage, ~ 2.2v, which is supplied by the camcorder or
Minidisc recorder via the signal lead. Consequently for low noise
recordings it is essential that the 3.5mm plugs and sockets between the
microphone and recorder aren't suffering from handling noise caused by
oxide on the contacts. Where possible I've obtained gold-plated plugs
from headphone leads, but the choice on offer* doesn't cover my precise
configuration, and I do get handling noise.
(*I've looked at CPC-Farnell, Maplin & RS websites recently.)

Can anyone recommend a UK based gold plating service which might be able
to plate the nickel(?) coated plugs and sockets which I can obtain easily.
And at a reasonable price for very small numbers.

Thanks in adavance

--
M Stewart
Milton Keynes, UK


I recently had some clock parts gold plated by Premier Plating of High
Wycombe.
Excellent job and reasonable price. Not too much of a trek from MK but could
perhaps
be done by mail.
HTH

Nick.



Guy King September 25th 06 06:02 PM

Small parts gold plating
 
The message
from Andy Wade contains these words:

I'm just wondering whether what you need is a low-noise cable, rather
than gold-plated plugs - something like RS stock no. 367-296, perhaps.


How about a soldering iron. Just solder the wires on each time - it'll
be better than any connector.

--
Skipweasel
Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.

Peter Neill September 25th 06 06:09 PM

Small parts gold plating
 
On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 16:40:16 +0100, "Malcolm Stewart"
wrote:

Can anyone recommend a UK based gold plating service which might be able to
plate the nickel(?) coated plugs and sockets which I can obtain easily. And
at a reasonable price for very small numbers.

--
M Stewart
Milton Keynes, UK


Try http://www.auric.co.uk/
or
http://www.twickenham.co.uk/

I've used both of them for commercial gold plating over nickel on
automotive electronic connector jobs, the spec. for which was
0.75microns nickel hardened gold over 1.25-2.25 microns sulphate
nickel.
This gave a good hard wearing contact surface.

Peter

Dave Plowman (News) September 25th 06 07:13 PM

Small parts gold plating
 
In article ,
Malcolm Stewart wrote:
I'm into amateur sound recordings using electret microphones. These
require a low voltage, ~ 2.2v, which is supplied by the camcorder or
Minidisc recorder via the signal lead. Consequently for low noise
recordings it is essential that the 3.5mm plugs and sockets between the
microphone and recorder aren't suffering from handling noise caused by
oxide on the contacts. Where possible I've obtained gold-plated plugs
from headphone leads, but the choice on offer* doesn't cover my precise
configuration, and I do get handling noise.


They are the spawn of the devil, those mini-jacks. I'd just keep a can of
cleaner/contact treatment like Electrolube handy. You're likely to get
handling noise off the cable too.

It's for a good reason 'proper' mics are low impedance balanced and use
XLRs. I modified my portable MiniDisc by hard wiring onto the PCB and
having a flying XLR lead.

--
*Reality? Is that where the pizza delivery guy comes from?

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Mark Rand September 25th 06 10:40 PM

Small parts gold plating
 
On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 19:13:13 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
Malcolm Stewart wrote:
I'm into amateur sound recordings using electret microphones. These
require a low voltage, ~ 2.2v, which is supplied by the camcorder or
Minidisc recorder via the signal lead. Consequently for low noise
recordings it is essential that the 3.5mm plugs and sockets between the
microphone and recorder aren't suffering from handling noise caused by
oxide on the contacts. Where possible I've obtained gold-plated plugs
from headphone leads, but the choice on offer* doesn't cover my precise
configuration, and I do get handling noise.


They are the spawn of the devil, those mini-jacks. I'd just keep a can of
cleaner/contact treatment like Electrolube handy. You're likely to get
handling noise off the cable too.

It's for a good reason 'proper' mics are low impedance balanced and use
XLRs. I modified my portable MiniDisc by hard wiring onto the PCB and
having a flying XLR lead.



Cheapskate! Use Lemo's :-)


Mark Rand
RTFM

Greg September 25th 06 10:48 PM

Small parts gold plating
 
"Malcolm Stewart" wrote in
message news:4517ec13$0$19707 Can anyone recommend a UK based gold plating
service which might be able to
plate the nickel(?) coated plugs and sockets which I can obtain easily.

And
at a reasonable price for very small numbers.


Whatever you can do to the plug, the socket inside the camcorder or Minidisc
recorder is always going to be crap. As other's have said, if you're
serious you need XLR connectors for mic's.
Greg



Andy Wade September 25th 06 10:58 PM

Small parts gold plating
 
Guy King wrote:

How about a soldering iron. Just solder the wires on each time - it'll
be better than any connector.


Slightly inconvenient and may not cure the problem if is is due to cable
microphony. Good to do once though to prove the point one way or the other.

--
Andy

Dave Plowman (News) September 26th 06 12:23 AM

Small parts gold plating
 
In article ,
Mark Rand wrote:
It's for a good reason 'proper' mics are low impedance balanced and use
XLRs. I modified my portable MiniDisc by hard wiring onto the PCB and
having a flying XLR lead.



Cheapskate! Use Lemo's :-)


;-)

Cost more than the recorder...

--
*If at first you do succeed, try not to look too astonished.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

John Nice September 26th 06 02:23 PM

Small parts gold plating
 

"Malcolm Stewart" wrote in
message .. .
I'm into amateur sound recordings using electret microphones. These
require a low voltage, ~ 2.2v, which is supplied by the camcorder or
Minidisc recorder via the signal lead. Consequently for low noise
recordings it is essential that the 3.5mm plugs and sockets between the
microphone and recorder aren't suffering from handling noise caused by
oxide on the contacts. Where possible I've obtained gold-plated plugs
from headphone leads, but the choice on offer* doesn't cover my precise
configuration, and I do get handling noise.
(*I've looked at CPC-Farnell, Maplin & RS websites recently.)

Try a Google on electroless gold. Used to do it ages ago on small microwave
assemblies.

John



[email protected] September 26th 06 08:09 PM

Small parts gold plating
 
Malcolm Stewart wrote:

I'm into amateur sound recordings using electret microphones. These require
a low voltage, ~ 2.2v, which is supplied by the camcorder or Minidisc
recorder via the signal lead. Consequently for low noise recordings it is
essential that the 3.5mm plugs and sockets between the microphone and
recorder aren't suffering from handling noise caused by oxide on the
contacts. Where possible I've obtained gold-plated plugs from headphone
leads, but the choice on offer* doesn't cover my precise configuration, and
I do get handling noise.
(*I've looked at CPC-Farnell, Maplin & RS websites recently.)

Can anyone recommend a UK based gold plating service which might be able to
plate the nickel(?) coated plugs and sockets which I can obtain easily. And
at a reasonable price for very small numbers.

Thanks in adavance



Your really chasing something that you'll only catch by getting rid of
the 3.5s altogether imho. 3.5 jacks are simply not a system thats upto
it, for a number of reasons.
Youve got small contact areas
Whatever plug you use, youve got a consumer grade socket in the chain
due to small plug size, cable handling puts a relatively high forces on
the jack and its connection points
Youve got plugs with a central pin pressed onto the lug, and some come
loose
youve got at best physically weak assemblies
and so on. Its not gonna work, pull out the 3.5 socket and mount
something decent on there. 1/4" jacks might be sufficient, but XLR and
a balanced mic would be much better.

I have worked on recording studio equipment but not a lot.


NT


Malcolm Stewart September 26th 06 11:07 PM

Small parts gold plating
 
"Malcolm Stewart" wrote in
message .. .
I'm into amateur sound recordings using electret microphones. These
require a low voltage, ~ 2.2v, which is supplied by the camcorder or
Minidisc recorder via the signal lead. Consequently for low noise
recordings it is essential that the 3.5mm plugs and sockets between the
microphone and recorder aren't suffering from handling noise caused by
oxide on the contacts. Where possible I've obtained gold-plated plugs
from headphone leads, but the choice on offer* doesn't cover my precise
configuration, and I do get handling noise.
(*I've looked at CPC-Farnell, Maplin & RS websites recently.)

Can anyone recommend a UK based gold plating service which might be able
to plate the nickel(?) coated plugs and sockets which I can obtain easily.
And at a reasonable price for very small numbers.

Thanks in adavance



Many thanks for all the suggestions. Company names (which didn't turn up in
my Google search) etc. have been noted.

The handling noise only occurs occasionally and is not caused by the Yoga
electret microphone cables (I've just checked this specifically.) I do have
an XLR connector lying around and it's about 1/3 the size of my Minidisc
recorder, so not really suitable for this application.

I've tried applying a drop of Electrolube switch-cleaner to the noisy
connectors, and after being exercised for a short time, the handling noise
disappears. Period. However, I expect it will be back when the chemical
has dried out, so gold plating would probably be the long term answer.
There's no audible noise from gold-plated plug contact against gold plated
socket.

--
M Stewart
Milton Keynes, UK



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[email protected] September 26th 06 11:45 PM

Small parts gold plating
 
No-one seems to have expressed any concern that the OP wants to gold
plate his small parts.

NT


Adrian Godwin September 27th 06 12:08 AM

Small parts gold plating
 
Malcolm Stewart wrote:

I've tried applying a drop of Electrolube switch-cleaner to the noisy
connectors, and after being exercised for a short time, the handling noise
disappears. Period. However, I expect it will be back when the chemical
has dried out, so gold plating would probably be the long term answer.
There's no audible noise from gold-plated plug contact against gold plated
socket.


There used to be some products often recommended in the sci.electronics
newsgroups - Tweek and De-Oxit, I think. These were some sort of
contact enhancer rather than the solvent/lubricant that electrolube
use, and were particularly popular with the hifi crowd. Might be
worth a try if you can source some.

-adrian

Andrew Mawson September 27th 06 07:58 AM

Small parts gold plating
 

wrote in message
ps.com...
No-one seems to have expressed any concern that the OP wants to gold
plate his small parts.

NT


Well as true Engineers, we don't have small parts, so probably have no
comment G

AWEM




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