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As I have said before, I am currently refitting my bathroom.

Currently we have a very old Xpelair extractor fan on the wall, with just a
pull cord to turn it on and off.

The hole for this is huge, probably at least 150mm wide.

I will be installing a shower cubicle in the corner, do I need to install a
fan above this, or can the fan be on the wall further along the wall? - The
trouble is, the ceiling above where the shower is going, is sloped (The
majority of the ceiling is flat, it just slopes down with the roof line down
one edge - where the shower will be!

So, as you can see, if I install a fan & light thing here, the light will be
pointing in the wrong direction! - Also, space is extremely tight in the
loft above where it slopes, so getting a duct connected there will be rather
difficult/impossible.

What would you do?

Do I need to lower the ceiling over the cubicle, so I then have a sort of
cube stuck to the ceiling above the shower cubicle? - Did I mention the
shower "cubicle" is actually curved - How do I replicate this!?

Installing a full lowered ceiling is not an option, as the window goes to
the very top of the higher part.

Moving the shower is not an option either.

Whatever happens, I guess I need a light for the shower - any suggestions?
Can I get a wall mounted light that looks good and is IP44, and preferable
12v?

Thanks for any pointers!

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I will be installing a shower cubicle in the corner, do I need to install a
fan above this, or can the fan be on the wall further along the wall? - The
trouble is, the ceiling above where the shower is going, is sloped (The
majority of the ceiling is flat, it just slopes down with the roof line down
one edge - where the shower will be!

So, as you can see, if I install a fan & light thing here, the light will be
pointing in the wrong direction! - Also, space is extremely tight in the
loft above where it slopes, so getting a duct connected there will be rather
difficult/impossible.

What would you do?

Do I need to lower the ceiling over the cubicle, so I then have a sort of
cube stuck to the ceiling above the shower cubicle? - Did I mention the
shower "cubicle" is actually curved - How do I replicate this!?

Installing a full lowered ceiling is not an option, as the window goes to
the very top of the higher part.


Are you able to post a photo of this configuration somewhere? I for one
am having difficulty visualising it.

David

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As I have said before, I am currently refitting my bathroom.

Currently we have a very old Xpelair extractor fan on the wall, with just a
pull cord to turn it on and off.

The hole for this is huge, probably at least 150mm wide.

I will be installing a shower cubicle in the corner, do I need to install a
fan above this, or can the fan be on the wall further along the wall? - The
trouble is, the ceiling above where the shower is going, is sloped (The
majority of the ceiling is flat, it just slopes down with the roof line down
one edge - where the shower will be!


I don't think it matters much. In our previous bathroom (approx 2.5m x
2.5m) we had a shower cubicle in one corner. The extractor fan was in
the centre of the ceiling.

It worked fine, didn't suffer any mould etc. in the shower, or other
symptoms of lack of ventilation.
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Installing a full lowered ceiling is not an option, as the window goes to
the very top of the higher part.


Are you able to post a photo of this configuration somewhere? I for one
am having difficulty visualising it.

David


Sure - I had wondered if I had explained it sufficiently (Obviously not!)

This is the corner the shower is going in (Currently one end of the bath is
here)

http://www.altphuk.co.uk/images/shower1.jpg
http://www.altphuk.co.uk/images/shower2.jpg

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As I have said before, I am currently refitting my bathroom.


You'll be glad to see the back of that wallpaper then!

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As I have said before, I am currently refitting my bathroom.


You'll be glad to see the back of that wallpaper then!

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That's nice.....compared to the avocado bathroom suite!!


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What would you do?


Install a humidistat controlled fan elswhere in the room. It does not
need to be directly above the shower to do its stuff.

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That's nice.....compared to the avocado bathroom suite!!


Eeek! I remember my parents fitting on of them.

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That's nice.....compared to the avocado bathroom suite!!


Eeek! I remember my parents fitting on of them.


And me. They still have it, too...

My (oh-so-charming) brother keeps dropping hints that they should update
it for a nice white one, for the sole reason that the bugger reckons
that when our 70-something parents eventually move out (ie feet first)
that his inheritance will be uprated accordingly.

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Thanks for any pointers!

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Sparks,

Assuming you have an exterior wall (you mentioned a window).
Hire a core drill for a couple of hours, don ear defenders, seal the
door with tape and punch a hole thru the 9" wall. Then fit an extractor
in there which is wired up to your lighting and comes with a timer,
letting run on for up to 30mins or so.

Alternatively, put it in the ceiling... the ducting that comes with
such fans can be 3-4m long, is very flexible and can be vented to a
grille fixed to the soffits, under the eaves of your roof... if you
have any kind of access to the area above the bathroom, you shoul be
able to thread this through somehow.

hth.

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Assuming you have an exterior wall (you mentioned a window).
Hire a core drill for a couple of hours, don ear defenders, seal the
door with tape and punch a hole thru the 9" wall. Then fit an extractor
in there which is wired up to your lighting and comes with a timer,
letting run on for up to 30mins or so.


Probably not that much of an issue here, since the room is to be
redecorated anyway, but I thought I would mention this tip in case it
helps anyone who found the same problem as I did....

I wanted a way to install a fan without having to either surface trunk
the wiring to it, or have to remove tiles to chase the wall since the
tiles were no longer available. I found the following trick worked
nicely[1].

I did the core drilled hole as described above, near the top of the
bathroom wall. Then measured carefully how far along the wall the new
hole was from a datum point (side wall in my case). I then went into the
loft space with a 400mm dril bit, and drilled straight down into the top
of the inner leaf of the wall - right through the wall plate - aming to
intersect with my core drilled hole. I could then run the cable down the
vertical hole into the duct spac, where there was just enough gap[2]
between the liner and the brickwork to allow the wire to run into the
back of the fan. Net result, concealed wiring, no damage to the tiles,
and all in a 9" solid brick wall.

[1] I did have the roof off at the time which made vertical access to
the top of the wall nice and easy. You may need to lift a few roof tiles
and do it from a ladder outside to get the required drilling angle! ;-)

[2] 107mm core drill, 100mm duct, 1mm^2 T&E

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