I use Dove soap which leaves a thin film of oil/moisturiser on my hands.
Don't ask ;-)

I need to de-grease my finger tips. Don't ask ;-)

Meths works fine but it smells and is a slight contact poison.

Medical alcohol wipes are not available to the public, even at our local
large chemist. Also I need to know that they do not contain oils.

Does anyone know vodka will work as a degreaser?
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Dave Fawthrop wrote:
Medical alcohol wipes are not available to the public, even at our local
large chemist. Also I need to know that they do not contain oils.

I'm surprised at that - I'm pretty sure that people who need to inject
stuff (eg insulin dependent diabetics) have no trouble getting them. An
alternative source may be a local needle exchange - just ask a
neighbourhood junkie ;-)

A lot of smaller jets in the USA stock them in the lav instead of soap
and water - I usually grab a handful. This is of no help to you, of
course.

Does anyone know vodka will work as a degreaser?

I'd be concerned that normal vodka may be too dilute, but I guess it
depends on how degreased you want to be.
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On 8 Sep 2006 04:07:05 -0700, "Rob Hamadi" wrote:

|Dave Fawthrop wrote:
| Medical alcohol wipes are not available to the public, even at our local
| large chemist. Also I need to know that they do not contain oils.
|
|I'm surprised at that - I'm pretty sure that people who need to inject
|stuff (eg insulin dependent diabetics) have no trouble getting them.


The ones which are commonly available are disinfecting, anti MRSA, non
alcohol, wipes.

|An
|alternative source may be a local needle exchange - just ask a
|neighbourhood junkie ;-)

I may try that, with another hat on I am in contact with the local needle
exchange.


|A lot of smaller jets in the USA stock them in the lav instead of soap
|and water - I usually grab a handful. This is of no help to you, of
|course.
|
| Does anyone know vodka will work as a degreaser?
|
|I'd be concerned that normal vodka may be too dilute, but I guess it
|depends on how degreased you want to be.
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I'm surprised at that - I'm pretty sure that people who need to inject
stuff (eg insulin dependent diabetics) have no trouble getting them.

Didn't have a problem getting a box of swabs when I first got diagnosed. IPA
based IIRC.

Not that I ever use them - very quickly discovered there was little point.

cheers,
clive

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I'm surprised at that - I'm pretty sure that people who need to inject
stuff (eg insulin dependent diabetics) have no trouble getting them.

Didn't have a problem getting a box of swabs when I first got
diagnosed. IPA
based IIRC.

Not that I ever use them - very quickly discovered there was little point.

There is no point using them prior to injection, but they are very useful for:

cleaning spectacle lenses

restarting reluctant ballpoint pens

removing ballpoint ink stains

cleaning computer monitor screens

wiping newly pierced ears etc, etc, etc.

I must get some more soon...

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Rob Hamadi wrote:
Dave Fawthrop wrote:
Medical alcohol wipes are not available to the public, even at our
local large chemist. Also I need to know that they do not contain
oils.

I'm surprised at that - I'm pretty sure that people who need to inject
stuff (eg insulin dependent diabetics) have no trouble getting them.
An alternative source may be a local needle exchange - just ask a
neighbourhood junkie ;-)

A lot of smaller jets in the USA stock them in the lav instead of soap
and water - I usually grab a handful. This is of no help to you, of
course.

Does anyone know vodka will work as a degreaser?

I'd be concerned that normal vodka may be too dilute, but I guess it
depends on how degreased you want to be.

Frank Sinatra mode on
I've got you under my skin


I hear you should use swarfega...its stop you visiting a dermatologist. ;-)

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I hear you should use swarfega...its stop you visiting a dermatologist. ;-)

The problem with Swarfega is that you have to use more soap to wash the
Swafega off 'cos it sticks like syrup.

"john2" wrote in message
...



I hear you should use swarfega...its stop you visiting a dermatologist.
;-)

The problem with Swarfega is that you have to use more soap to wash the
Swafega off 'cos it sticks like syrup.


That has not been my experience. I rub it well in, then rinse it off with
plenty of water.

Sylvain.

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Dave Fawthrop wrote:
Medical alcohol wipes are not available to the public, even at our local
large chemist. Also I need to know that they do not contain oils.

I have bought boxes of the over the counter in the past. They worked out
at 2½p each or so.

Ask for 'Mediwipes' or sterets.

Does anyone know vodka will work as a degreaser?

I'd be concerned that normal vodka may be too dilute, but I guess it
depends on how degreased you want to be.

You could try spectacle cleaning spray from any optician, or spectacle
cleaning wipes.

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You could try spectacle cleaning spray from any optician, or spectacle
cleaning wipes.

Aldi sometimes have boxen of optical wipes @79p/100. I'm not glazed, but
the wife reckons they're very good.

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On Fri, 8 Sep 2006 17:39:58 +0100, Helen Deborah Vecht
wrote:

"Rob Hamadi" typed


Dave Fawthrop wrote:
Medical alcohol wipes are not available to the public, even at our local
large chemist. Also I need to know that they do not contain oils.

I have bought boxes of the over the counter in the past. They worked out
at 2½p each or so.

Ask for 'Mediwipes' or sterets.

Does anyone know vodka will work as a degreaser?

I'd be concerned that normal vodka may be too dilute, but I guess it
depends on how degreased you want to be.

You could try spectacle cleaning spray from any optician, or spectacle
cleaning wipes.

Boots "Moist Lens Wipes" contain propan-2-ol.

Moist Cleaning Tissues made by "Selles Medical Ltd" of Hull, as
included in first-aid kits, just claim to be Alcohol Free (mmmm - free
alcohol!).

I think I'd rather just drink the alcohol and forget about the
grease...

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On Fri, 8 Sep 2006 17:39:58 +0100, Helen Deborah Vecht
wrote:

"Rob Hamadi" typed


Dave Fawthrop wrote:
Medical alcohol wipes are not available to the public, even at our
local
large chemist. Also I need to know that they do not contain oils.

I have bought boxes of the over the counter in the past. They worked out
at 2½p each or so.

Ask for 'Mediwipes' or sterets.

Does anyone know vodka will work as a degreaser?

I'd be concerned that normal vodka may be too dilute, but I guess it
depends on how degreased you want to be.

You could try spectacle cleaning spray from any optician, or spectacle
cleaning wipes.




Boots "Moist Lens Wipes" contain propan-2-ol.
--------------

Yes. My 500 ml bottle of Isopropyl alcohol has this in brackets. This amount
certainly goes a long way. I've had it for some years.

Sylvain.

Moist Cleaning Tissues made by "Selles Medical Ltd" of Hull, as
included in first-aid kits, just claim to be Alcohol Free (mmmm - free
alcohol!).

I think I'd rather just drink the alcohol and forget about the
grease...

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Buy isopropanol, or if you really mean no residues, arklone.

I doubt any vodka will be residue free. Are you sure about meths being
a contact poison? It certainly is by ingestion or inhalation, I was
unaware of skin absorbtion. Similarly surprised you can't get medical
wipes, there's plenty on ebay:

http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/sear...&fsop=1&fsoo=1

On 8 Sep 2006 04:14:36 -0700, " wrote:

|Buy isopropanol, or if you really mean no residues, arklone.
|
|I doubt any vodka will be residue free. Are you sure about meths being
|a contact poison?

Yes it was banned in a factory where I was a Safety Rep, but that was for
people who used it hourly, so I am only unhappy about using it for DIY
purposes occasionally.
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On 8 Sep 2006 04:14:36 -0700, " wrote:

|Buy isopropanol, or if you really mean no residues, arklone.
|
|I doubt any vodka will be residue free. Are you sure about meths being
|a contact poison?

Yes it was banned in a factory where I was a Safety Rep, but that was for
people who used it hourly, so I am only unhappy about using it for DIY
purposes occasionally.

I think you're creating a bit of a storm in a teacup

I'm sure there's no problem with meths, you can buy alcoholic wipes
easily, you can buy IPA

What you really need is an angle grinder, that will get rid of any fatty
residues if used with vigour


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On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 23:39:42 GMT, raden wrote:

|In message , Dave Fawthrop
writes
|On 8 Sep 2006 04:14:36 -0700, " wrote:
|
||Buy isopropanol, or if you really mean no residues, arklone.
||
||I doubt any vodka will be residue free. Are you sure about meths being
||a contact poison?
|
|Yes it was banned in a factory where I was a Safety Rep, but that was for
|people who used it hourly, so I am only unhappy about using it for DIY
|purposes occasionally.
|
|I think you're creating a bit of a storm in a teacup

Yes but I put the main problem first *the smell*.
June objects to the smell of meths. I do not like it.

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Buy isopropanol, or if you really mean no residues, arklone.

Is arklone stall available?

I thought that it had been banned for its eco unfriendliness.

Dave

I Could not see why not but you could get a small amount in your blood
stream through absorbtion could cause you to be over the limit if
driving ?



Dave Fawthrop wrote:
I use Dove soap which leaves a thin film of oil/moisturiser on my hands.
Don't ask ;-)

I need to de-grease my finger tips. Don't ask ;-)

Meths works fine but it smells and is a slight contact poison.

Medical alcohol wipes are not available to the public, even at our local
large chemist. Also I need to know that they do not contain oils.

Does anyone know vodka will work as a degreaser?
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On 8 Sep 2006 04:15:41 -0700, "squelchy" wrote:

|I Could not see why not but you could get a small amount in your blood
|stream through absorbtion could cause you to be over the limit if
|driving ?
|
|
|
|Dave Fawthrop wrote:
| I use Dove soap which leaves a thin film of oil/moisturiser on my hands.
| Don't ask ;-)
|
| I need to de-grease my finger tips. Don't ask ;-)
|
| Meths works fine but it smells and is a slight contact poison.
|
| Medical alcohol wipes are not available to the public, even at our local
| large chemist. Also I need to know that they do not contain oils.
|
| Does anyone know vodka will work as a degreaser?

No! not enough to put one over the limit.
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I Could not see why not but you could get a small amount in your blood
stream through absorbtion could cause you to be over the limit if
driving ?

Absorption through the skin is minimal.

Unsurprisingly, absorption through the stomach is better but you have to
drink a couple of measures or so to exceed the driviing limit...

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Dave Fawthrop wrote:


I need to de-grease my finger tips. Don't ask ;-)

I'm asking!

Can you not use surgical gloves?

d.

On 8 Sep 2006 04:17:45 -0700, "deano" wrote:

|
|Dave Fawthrop wrote:
|
|
| I need to de-grease my finger tips. Don't ask ;-)
|
|I'm asking!
|
|Can you not use surgical gloves?

Electrical contact measurement.
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Dave Fawthrop wrote:

Electrical contact measurement.

Now I'm curious. Is this as part of some new product development or is
it a standard requirement when performing certain electrical
installations?

My mind is conjuring up all sorts of possible scenarios, many of which
feature a lab, white coats, Tefal foreheads and nervous white bunny
rabbits!

deano.

On 8 Sep 2006 13:48:38 -0700, "deano" wrote:

|
|Dave Fawthrop wrote:
|
| Electrical contact measurement.
|
|Now I'm curious. Is this as part of some new product development or is
|it a standard requirement when performing certain electrical
|installations?
|
|My mind is conjuring up all sorts of possible scenarios, many of which
|feature a lab, white coats, Tefal foreheads and nervous white bunny
|rabbits!

Sorry but you will have to remain curious.
It is a distinct problem for me and when I have solved it for myself, may
have wider applications.
There are some things I do not put on usenet.
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Does anyone know vodka will work as a degreaser?

Isopropanol's good. Surgical spirit is poor as it contains something greasy.

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Guy King wrote:
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Does anyone know vodka will work as a degreaser?

Isopropanol's good. Surgical spirit is poor as it contains something
greasy.

Is that why video engineers use it to clean video heads?

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Guy King wrote:
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Does anyone know vodka will work as a degreaser?

Isopropanol's good. Surgical spirit is poor as it contains something
greasy.



Is that why video engineers use it to clean video heads?

Video engineers use Isopropyl alcohol (Isopropanol) to clean video heads.
That's a fact.

Sylvain.

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Is that why video engineers use it to clean video heads?

Video engineers use Isopropyl alcohol (Isopropanol) to clean video heads.
That's a fact.

I always used it when I did tape players for a living.

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"The3rd Earl Of Derby" wrote in message
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Guy King wrote:
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from Dave Fawthrop contains
these words:

Does anyone know vodka will work as a degreaser?

Isopropanol's good. Surgical spirit is poor as it contains something
greasy.



Is that why video engineers use it to clean video heads?

Video engineers use Isopropyl alcohol (Isopropanol) to clean video heads.
That's a fact.

No it's not, it's a molecule containing carbon, hydrogen and oxygen


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"The3rd Earl Of Derby" wrote in message
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Guy King wrote:
The message
from Dave Fawthrop contains
these words:

Does anyone know vodka will work as a degreaser?

Isopropanol's good. Surgical spirit is poor as it contains something
greasy.



Is that why video engineers use it to clean video heads?

Video engineers use Isopropyl alcohol (Isopropanol) to clean video heads.
That's a fact.

No it's not, it's a molecule containing carbon, hydrogen and oxygen

You've lost me.

Sylvain.


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Isopropanol's good. Surgical spirit is poor as it contains something
greasy.

Is that why video engineers use it to clean video heads?

I saw a friend use it to clean an LP once and it left a dreadful sticky
oily mess. IIRC it's got castor oi, methyl salycylate and other things
in it.

I suspect you're thinking of isopropanol.

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On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 12:19:26 GMT, "The3rd Earl Of Derby"
wrote:


Isopropanol's good. Surgical spirit is poor as it contains something
greasy.

Is that why video engineers use it to clean video heads?

In my Ampex days they didn't.

They used to use IPA to clean rubber drive rollers.

They used Head drum cleaner (based on Xylene) proprietory to the video
recorder manufacturer to clean the head drum.

They used an abrasive cleaning tape to clean the video head itself
which was *far* too delicate to touch.

http://www.3moutletstore.co.uk/store...1& i=50216606


http://snipurl.com/w5vs

DG

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Does anyone know vodka will work as a degreaser?

Isopropanol's good. Surgical spirit is poor as it contains something
greasy.

I thought that Isopropanol was the US name for Isopropyl alcohol. Anyway,
why can't/won't Dave F. use it?
I just used some on my fingers; and the skin is dry, smooth, and free from
residue.

Sylvain.

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On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 14:52:33 GMT, "Sylvain VAN DER WALDE"
wrote:

|
|"Guy King" wrote in message
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| The message
| from Dave Fawthrop contains these
| words:
|
| Does anyone know vodka will work as a degreaser?
|
| Isopropanol's good. Surgical spirit is poor as it contains something
| greasy.
|
|I thought that Isopropanol was the US name for Isopropyl alcohol. Anyway,
|why can't/won't Dave F. use it?
|I just used some on my fingers; and the skin is dry, smooth, and free from
|residue.

Thanks, I'll go for Isopropyl alcohol.
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Dave Fawthrop wrote:
I use Dove soap which leaves a thin film of oil/moisturiser on my hands.
Don't ask ;-)

I need to de-grease my finger tips. Don't ask ;-)



Why don't you use a different soap? ..or is one not related to the
other?

On 8 Sep 2006 05:34:41 -0700, wrote:

|
|Dave Fawthrop wrote:
| I use Dove soap which leaves a thin film of oil/moisturiser on my hands.
| Don't ask ;-)
|
| I need to de-grease my finger tips. Don't ask ;-)
|
|
|
|Why don't you use a different soap? ..or is one not related to the
|other?

Dove gets rid of calluses which then fissure.
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On 8 Sep 2006 05:34:41 -0700, wrote:

|
|Dave Fawthrop wrote:
| I use Dove soap which leaves a thin film of oil/moisturiser on my
hands.
| Don't ask ;-)
|
| I need to de-grease my finger tips. Don't ask ;-)
|
|Why don't you use a different soap? ..or is one not related to the
|other?

Dove gets rid of calluses which then fissure.

It'll do that by leaving the thin film of oil/moisturiser on your hands
which you then carefully remove! Why not use something else for the rare
occasions when you need to degrease your fingers?

cheers,
clive

Clive George wrote:


Dove gets rid of calluses which then fissure.

It'll do that by leaving the thin film of oil/moisturiser on your hands
which you then carefully remove! Why not use something else for the rare
occasions when you need to degrease your fingers?

cheers,
clive

I wonder if he's been caught with a bottle of vodka at work and now
he's like "er, yeah, it's for degreasing my fingers because, er, I use
this really greasy soap, er, for, er, my calluses" ;-)

On 8 Sep 2006 06:48:13 -0700, wrote:

|
|Clive George wrote:
|
|
| Dove gets rid of calluses which then fissure.
|
| It'll do that by leaving the thin film of oil/moisturiser on your hands
| which you then carefully remove! Why not use something else for the rare
| occasions when you need to degrease your fingers?
|
| cheers,
| clive
|
|I wonder if he's been caught with a bottle of vodka at work and now
|he's like "er, yeah, it's for degreasing my fingers because, er, I use
|this really greasy soap, er, for, er, my calluses" ;-)

Work? what's that? I'm a Pensioner :-)

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On Fri, 8 Sep 2006 13:56:16 +0100, Clive George wrote:
"Dave Fawthrop" wrote in message
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On 8 Sep 2006 05:34:41 -0700, wrote:

|
|Dave Fawthrop wrote:
| I use Dove soap which leaves a thin film of oil/moisturiser on my
hands.
| Don't ask ;-)
|
| I need to de-grease my finger tips. Don't ask ;-)
|
|Why don't you use a different soap? ..or is one not related to the
|other?

Dove gets rid of calluses which then fissure.

It'll do that by leaving the thin film of oil/moisturiser on your hands
which you then carefully remove! Why not use something else for the rare
occasions when you need to degrease your fingers?

cheers,
clive

No matter how well you degrease your fingers, more grease will leak
through your skin over time. Depending on how long you want to remain
grease-free, give some thought to some (disposable) latex gloves.

That way you can also keep your hands nice 'n' soft with the Dove
soap.

Pete

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