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My gran's got a field with a few trees at the top end, and we're having
problems with kids drinking in the field. I've already been and got rid of all the tall scrub that's giving cover, and next I'll see about thinning out the trees. What I'm wondering about is whether it'd be possible and worthwhile to set up something like one of those cat scarers up in the top of the trees and run them off lithium batteries to make sitting around there drinking unpleasant for anyone with halfway decent hearing. Anyone got any ideas of how much it'd cost and where to buy the kit (I can bodge stuff together DIY quite happily). |
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Doki wrote:
My gran's got a field with a few trees at the top end, and we're having problems with kids drinking in the field. I've already been and got rid of all the tall scrub that's giving cover, and next I'll see about thinning out the trees. What I'm wondering about is whether it'd be possible and worthwhile to set up something like one of those cat scarers up in the top of the trees and run them off lithium batteries to make sitting around there drinking unpleasant for anyone with halfway decent hearing. Anyone got any ideas of how much it'd cost and where to buy the kit (I can bodge stuff together DIY quite happily). There's one with a price he http://castlehygiene.com/catalog/ind...6f0a e3997f8f Another one can be found by typing "teenager repellent" into google - although it has no price. -- Take care, John. |
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Doki wrote:
My gran's got a field with a few trees at the top end, and we're having problems with kids drinking in the field. I've already been and got rid of all the tall scrub that's giving cover, and next I'll see about thinning out the trees. What I'm wondering about is whether it'd be possible and worthwhile to set up something like one of those cat scarers up in the top of the trees and run them off lithium batteries to make sitting around there drinking unpleasant for anyone with halfway decent hearing. Anyone got any ideas of how much it'd cost and where to buy the kit (I can bodge stuff together DIY quite happily). This will not be a lot of help, but there is actually a device to get rid of teenagers. I cannot remember much about it, not even where I read the details, but it seems it emits a high pitch squeal which older folk cannot hear, but bugs the hell out of teenagers. |
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Broadback wrote: Doki wrote: My gran's got a field with a few trees at the top end, and we're having problems with kids drinking in the field. I've already been and got rid of all the tall scrub that's giving cover, and next I'll see about thinning out the trees. What I'm wondering about is whether it'd be possible and worthwhile to set up something like one of those cat scarers up in the top of the trees and run them off lithium batteries to make sitting around there drinking unpleasant for anyone with halfway decent hearing. Anyone got any ideas of how much it'd cost and where to buy the kit (I can bodge stuff together DIY quite happily). This will not be a lot of help, but there is actually a device to get rid of teenagers. I cannot remember much about it, not even where I read the details, but it seems it emits a high pitch squeal which older folk cannot hear, but bugs the hell out of teenagers. I thought that got banned for some reason it was used outside a shop up north a while back, I think the police made them remove it. Have a look http://www.compoundsecurity.co.uk/de...t_news_11.html regards df |
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In article , Doki
writes My gran's got a field with a few trees at the top end, and we're having problems with kids drinking in the field. I've already been and got rid of all the tall scrub that's giving cover, and next I'll see about thinning out the trees. What I'm wondering about is whether it'd be possible and worthwhile to set up something like one of those cat scarers up in the top of the trees and run them off lithium batteries to make sitting around there drinking unpleasant for anyone with halfway decent hearing. Anyone got any ideas of how much it'd cost and where to buy the kit (I can bodge stuff together DIY quite happily). Nothing quite as effective as a Granny in carpet slippers, shotgun over arm shouting 'Git orf my land!' . . . . with the possible exception of a Matt Monroe cd. -- fred Plusnet - I hope you like vanilla |
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Doki wrote:
My gran's got a field with a few trees at the top end, and we're having problems with kids drinking in the field. I've already been and got rid of all the tall scrub that's giving cover, and next I'll see about thinning out the trees. What I'm wondering about is whether it'd be possible and worthwhile to set up something like one of those cat scarers up in the top of the trees and run them off lithium batteries to make sitting around there drinking unpleasant for anyone with halfway decent hearing. Anyone got any ideas of how much it'd cost and where to buy the kit (I can bodge stuff together DIY quite happily). I seem to recall that somebody who used ultrasonics had trouble with the police over it. (Sorry I can't find a reference at the moment). My local shopping centre started playing classical music over the PA, which seemed to do the job quite well. John -- John White, Electrical Contractor |
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"Doki" wrote in message ... My gran's got a field with a few trees at the top end, and we're having problems with kids drinking in the field. I've already been and got rid of all the tall scrub that's giving cover, and next I'll see about thinning out the trees. A friendly farmer who can spread a bit of muck around where they congregate? |
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Broadback wrote in
: This will not be a lot of help, but there is actually a device to get rid of teenagers. I cannot remember much about it, not even where I read the details, but it seems it emits a high pitch squeal which older folk cannot hear, but bugs the hell out of teenagers. I think it's called a boombox loaded with Barry Manilow tapes |
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On Fri, 1 Sep 2006 17:13:52 +0100, "shaun"
wrote: "Doki" wrote in message ... My gran's got a field with a few trees at the top end, and we're having problems with kids drinking in the field. I've already been and got rid of all the tall scrub that's giving cover, and next I'll see about thinning out the trees. A friendly farmer who can spread a bit of muck around where they congregate? Or find a dead sheep and dump it there .In a short while they won't want to gather there ..I'm sure of that . Stuart |
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Stuart wrote:
On Fri, 1 Sep 2006 17:13:52 +0100, "shaun" wrote: "Doki" wrote in message ... My gran's got a field with a few trees at the top end, and we're having problems with kids drinking in the field. I've already been and got rid of all the tall scrub that's giving cover, and next I'll see about thinning out the trees. A friendly farmer who can spread a bit of muck around where they congregate? Or find a dead sheep and dump it there .In a short while they won't want to gather there ..I'm sure of that . Job done... |
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Doki wrote: My gran's got a field with a few trees at the top end, and we're having problems with kids drinking in the field. I've already been and got rid of all the tall scrub that's giving cover, and next I'll see about thinning out the trees. What I'm wondering about is whether it'd be possible and worthwhile to set up something like one of those cat scarers up in the top of the trees and run them off lithium batteries to make sitting around there drinking unpleasant for anyone with halfway decent hearing. Anyone got any ideas of how much it'd cost and where to buy the kit (I can bodge stuff together DIY quite happily). This will not be a lot of help, but there is actually a device to get rid of teenagers. I cannot remember much about it, not even where I read the details, but it seems it emits a high pitch squeal which older folk cannot hear, but bugs the hell out of teenagers. Some question over the legality of a device which intentionally causes discomfort & distress to a targeted group. Falls foul of public health laws imho, statutory nuisance and all that. Might not apply in this case, due to private land with no public right of access. |
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"Mike the unimaginative" wrote in message ... Broadback wrote in : This will not be a lot of help, but there is actually a device to get rid of teenagers. I cannot remember much about it, not even where I read the details, but it seems it emits a high pitch squeal which older folk cannot hear, but bugs the hell out of teenagers. I think it's called a boombox loaded with Barry Manilow tapes or: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/humber/4083037.stm |
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from "Doki" contains these words: What I'm wondering about is whether it'd be possible and worthwhile to set up something like one of those cat scarers up in the top of the trees and run them off lithium batteries to make sitting around there drinking unpleasant for anyone with halfway decent hearing. Anyone got any ideas of how much it'd cost and where to buy the kit (I can bodge stuff together DIY quite happily). Muckspreader. A couple of passes with half a ton of the slurry pit's finest and they won't be back. -- Skipweasel Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain. |
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"shaun" wrote in message ... "Doki" wrote in message ... My gran's got a field with a few trees at the top end, and we're having problems with kids drinking in the field. I've already been and got rid of all the tall scrub that's giving cover, and next I'll see about thinning out the trees. A friendly farmer who can spread a bit of muck around where they congregate? Can be easily done, but, I'd rather not have the smell of **** if possible. |
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"Bioboffin" wrote in message ... Doki wrote: My gran's got a field with a few trees at the top end, and we're having problems with kids drinking in the field. I've already been and got rid of all the tall scrub that's giving cover, and next I'll see about thinning out the trees. What I'm wondering about is whether it'd be possible and worthwhile to set up something like one of those cat scarers up in the top of the trees and run them off lithium batteries to make sitting around there drinking unpleasant for anyone with halfway decent hearing. Anyone got any ideas of how much it'd cost and where to buy the kit (I can bodge stuff together DIY quite happily). There's one with a price he http://castlehygiene.com/catalog/ind...6f0a e3997f8f Another one can be found by typing "teenager repellent" into google - although it has no price. Yebbut have you seen the price? All you need is a battery pack, and some sort of tweeter & signal generator, or a piezo buzzer that works at a relatively high frequency and you're away. The cat scarer things are about £20 and are audible to people with good hearing (certainly me, and they're not right pleasant). |
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"Doki" wrote in message ... What I'm wondering about is whether it'd be possible and worthwhile to set up something like one of those cat scarers I hear that a dose of Mozart shifts them. |
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Doki wrote: My gran's got a field with a few trees at the top end, and we're having problems with kids drinking in the field. It'd be cheaper and easier to smear the areas most affected with jams and over-ripe fruit, to encourage wasps and ants (little and often to make the wasps keen on returning for more) and also find a source of rustic aroma product (the more the merrier. Good old fashioned milk by-product well applied and liberally) and get some fresh helpings of that from time to time. Even the odd 10 day old tin of oily fish aught to do the trick. Splash it all over. Then there is the good old fashioned favourite, thistles and nettles. Good for the environment too. I doubt it is illegal to play whatever music you like to annoy neighbours outstaying their welcome. 1950's crooners proved a great success in the USA, decades ago. Old scratched records played a little slow will travel best over a greater distance. See if you can get some Paul Robeson. The deeper the notes the better, it doesn't have to be loud. Just get a megaphone and an intruder alarm to set it off. Steer clear of personal contact. A gang doesn't have much reason where alcohol is involved and the politics of confrontation always favours democracy on such occasions. |
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"Doki" wrote in message ... "shaun" wrote in message ... "Doki" wrote in message ... My gran's got a field with a few trees at the top end, and we're having problems with kids drinking in the field. I've already been and got rid of all the tall scrub that's giving cover, and next I'll see about thinning out the trees. A friendly farmer who can spread a bit of muck around where they congregate? Can be easily done, but, I'd rather not have the smell of **** if possible. Problem will soon be gone with summer on its way out. Provided there is no house near where they are congregating as another poster suggests - jam / sugar water to attract the wasps next year |
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My gran's got a field with a few trees at the top end, and we're having problems with kids drinking in the field. The ultrasonic is a good idea. But how about putting some beehives there? They don't have to contain bees if you don't want them, but you could have a sign that says "Danger: Keep Clear of Bees" |
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In message , Roger
Cain writes "Doki" wrote in message ... What I'm wondering about is whether it'd be possible and worthwhile to set up something like one of those cat scarers I hear that a dose of Mozart shifts them. Canned classics ? prolly lost on non-german speakers -- geoff |
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from Owain contains these words: A nice friendly cow or a couple of goats? Leave the horns on. When I was a nipper I used to walk to school past a field with some goats in. One had a pair of rubber handlebar grips epoxied to its horns. It was still foul tempered, but easier to steer in the rain. -- Skipweasel Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain. |
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Doki wrote: What I'm wondering about is whether it'd be possible and worthwhile to set up something like one of those cat scarers up in the top of the trees and run them off lithium batteries to make sitting around there drinking unpleasant for anyone with halfway decent hearing. Anyone got any ideas of how much it'd cost and where to buy the kit (I can bodge stuff together DIY quite happily). Any supersonic frequency will be very directional out of doors and need more than a couple of lithium batteries to give sufficient power. -- *This message has been ROT-13 encrypted twice for extra security * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Doki wrote:
My gran's got a field with a few trees at the top end, and we're having problems with kids drinking in the field. I've already been and got rid of all the tall scrub that's giving cover, and next I'll see about thinning out the trees. What I'm wondering about is whether it'd be possible and worthwhile to set up something like one of those cat scarers up in the top of the trees and run them off lithium batteries to make sitting around there drinking unpleasant for anyone with halfway decent hearing. Anyone got any ideas of how much it'd cost and where to buy the kit (I can bodge stuff together DIY quite happily). righty, if nan has land, go up there with shotgun and scare the living flux out of them with (optional mask/s) a few mates! if it dont work it will be so much fun that a vid in test will do as payment for suggestion! |
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , Doki wrote: What I'm wondering about is whether it'd be possible and worthwhile to set up something like one of those cat scarers up in the top of the trees and run them off lithium batteries to make sitting around there drinking unpleasant for anyone with halfway decent hearing. Anyone got any ideas of how much it'd cost and where to buy the kit (I can bodge stuff together DIY quite happily). Any supersonic frequency will be very directional out of doors and need more than a couple of lithium batteries to give sufficient power. I'm talking biggish lithiums, probably from the army stores, not a set of camera batteries. Or maybe a couple of AH worth of SLA. Would that be more up to it? |
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"Doki" wrote in message ... "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , Doki wrote: What I'm wondering about is whether it'd be possible and worthwhile to set up something like one of those cat scarers up in the top of the trees and run them off lithium batteries to make sitting around there drinking unpleasant for anyone with halfway decent hearing. Anyone got any ideas of how much it'd cost and where to buy the kit (I can bodge stuff together DIY quite happily). Any supersonic frequency will be very directional out of doors and need more than a couple of lithium batteries to give sufficient power. I'm talking biggish lithiums, probably from the army stores, not a set of camera batteries. Or maybe a couple of AH worth of SLA. Would that be more up to it? Well, if it's directional, beam it to the target from your house and run it off the mains - A kilowatt of power is never going to be run off batteries for long anyway ! Nick (Doing the same myself, but only with 100 watts to start with ) |
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On Fri, 1 Sep 2006 17:40:32 +0100, "Steve Walker"
wrote: .. Some question over the legality of a device which intentionally causes discomfort & distress to a targeted group. Falls foul of public health laws imho, statutory nuisance and all that. Might not apply in this case, due to private land with no public right of access. And if it did what rights should the op have to some peace and quiet etc? I know 'if we aren't part of the solution we are part of the problem' but I am personally fed up taking on the parental role for local kids? The really great thing is watching them grow up, kicking a football against *their* first / new car and watching them in a panic whilst just shrugging and saying 'sorry' ... ;-) And isn't it funny how sort a memory their parents have ... when they start moaning about 'local kids kicking footballs on our cars / gardens / green houses ...' .. till I remind them of when their kids were doing that a few years earlier and when told them doing nothing about it ... What goes round ... ;-) All the best .. T i m |
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Nick wrote:
"Doki" wrote in message ... "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , Doki wrote: What I'm wondering about is whether it'd be possible and worthwhile to set up something like one of those cat scarers up in the top of the trees and run them off lithium batteries to make sitting around there drinking unpleasant for anyone with halfway decent hearing. Anyone got any ideas of how much it'd cost and where to buy the kit (I can bodge stuff together DIY quite happily). Any supersonic frequency will be very directional out of doors and need more than a couple of lithium batteries to give sufficient power. I'm talking biggish lithiums, probably from the army stores, not a set of camera batteries. Or maybe a couple of AH worth of SLA. Would that be more up to it? Well, if it's directional, beam it to the target from your house and run it off the mains - A kilowatt of power is never going to be run off batteries for long anyway ! But you only need to pulse it surely - 10% duty cycle, 1 Hz perhaps. And you could always attach a PIR so it shuts up when they're not there. Chris -- Spamtrap in use To email replace 127.0.0.1 with btinternet dot com |
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Huge wrote:
Mozart. Hire a string quartet. Having felt the end of a cello bow jabbed into me that could work even if they like classical music. -- Spamtrap in use To email replace 127.0.0.1 with btinternet dot com |
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"Nick" wrote in message news "Doki" wrote in message ... "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , Doki wrote: What I'm wondering about is whether it'd be possible and worthwhile to set up something like one of those cat scarers up in the top of the trees and run them off lithium batteries to make sitting around there drinking unpleasant for anyone with halfway decent hearing. Anyone got any ideas of how much it'd cost and where to buy the kit (I can bodge stuff together DIY quite happily). Any supersonic frequency will be very directional out of doors and need more than a couple of lithium batteries to give sufficient power. I'm talking biggish lithiums, probably from the army stores, not a set of camera batteries. Or maybe a couple of AH worth of SLA. Would that be more up to it? Well, if it's directional, beam it to the target from your house and run it off the mains - A kilowatt of power is never going to be run off batteries for long anyway ! Nick (Doing the same myself, but only with 100 watts to start with ) Plenty of trees and foliage in the way which I suspect would shut it up. For the time being I'm going to go down the route of opening up the area to increase visibility and hope that fixes it. Lots of pain in the arse problems with this idea, so I'll try the simple stuff first. |
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