|
Wireless Networking Conundrum
Hello All
I have a Belkin 802.11g wireless router with ADSL modem and I want to extend the coverage to an office building that is built on the end of my garage. If I take my notebook into the office I don't get a signal, if however I stand at the door entrance I do get a weak signal. I plan to install a couple of servers in the office and want these to be connected to my wireless network and to the internet. I have decided that I could probably purchase a Bellkin Wireless Access Point and utilise it as a repeater. I could install this repeater in the office building, attach an external antenna to it and then attach this to the outside of the office wall (where there is a weak signal). Hopefully the repeater will boost the signal. I would then simply cable the servers into the access point. One thing I am finding difficult to locate is a high gain aerial that will be ok to be mounted outside on the office wall. Also the aerial will need to have a pretty lengthy cable so I can run it accordingly. Does anyone have thoughts on this setup, will this work, and also any ideas on where I can get an antenna from that is sutiable for this type of application. TIA Cheers Richard |
Wireless Networking Conundrum
Since this is a DIY group, start off by trying your own. Google for 'Pringles antenna'. This is not a joke. Damn it, you beat me to it Bob. -- Graham. %Profound_observation% |
Wireless Networking Conundrum
|
Wireless Networking Conundrum
In article .com,
writes Hello All I have a Belkin 802.11g wireless router with ADSL modem and I want to extend the coverage to an office building that is built on the end of my garage. If I take my notebook into the office I don't get a signal, if however I stand at the door entrance I do get a weak signal. I plan to install a couple of servers in the office and want these to be connected to my wireless network and to the internet. I have decided that I could probably purchase a Bellkin Wireless Access Point and utilise it as a repeater. I could install this repeater in the office building, attach an external antenna to it and then attach this to the outside of the office wall (where there is a weak signal). Hopefully the repeater will boost the signal. I would then simply cable the servers into the access point. One thing I am finding difficult to locate is a high gain aerial that will be ok to be mounted outside on the office wall. Also the aerial will need to have a pretty lengthy cable so I can run it accordingly. http://www.solwise.com Does anyone have thoughts on this setup, will this work, and also any ideas on where I can get an antenna from that is sutiable for this type of application. TIA Cheers Richard -- Tony Sayer |
Wireless Networking Conundrum
|
Wireless Networking Conundrum
wrote in message oups.com... Hello All I have a Belkin 802.11g wireless router with ADSL modem and I want to extend the coverage to an office building that is built on the end of my garage. If I take my notebook into the office I don't get a signal, if however I stand at the door entrance I do get a weak signal. I plan to install a couple of servers in the office and want these to be connected to my wireless network and to the internet. I have decided that I could probably purchase a Bellkin Wireless Access Point and utilise it as a repeater. I could install this repeater in the office building, attach an external antenna to it and then attach this to the outside of the office wall (where there is a weak signal). Hopefully the repeater will boost the signal. I would then simply cable the servers into the access point. One thing I am finding difficult to locate is a high gain aerial that will be ok to be mounted outside on the office wall. Also the aerial will need to have a pretty lengthy cable so I can run it accordingly. Does the antenna need a lengthy cable, or would it be better to situate the transceiver outside, closer to the antenna? A single cat5e cable could supply both power and network connectivity to the external unit. -- JJ |
Wireless Networking Conundrum
wrote in message oups.com... snip Does anyone have thoughts on this setup, snip Yes, stop being a lazy bodger, install a wired Cat5 network... |
Wireless Networking Conundrum
Jerry wrote:
Does anyone have thoughts on this setup, snip Yes, stop being a lazy bodger, install a wired Cat5 network... Come on, ethernet is dead as the dodo. I suppose you have telephone outlets in the loo. Wireless rules. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail (80k only): tim /at/ birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland |
Wireless Networking Conundrum
Jerry wrote: wrote in message oups.com... snip Does anyone have thoughts on this setup, snip Yes, stop being a lazy bodger, install a wired Cat5 network... There is always one! |
Wireless Networking Conundrum
Come on, ethernet is dead as the dodo. I suppose you have telephone outlets in the loo. Wireless rules. If you say so!. Not had many probs with it then ? Dave |
Wireless Networking Conundrum
Jason wrote: wrote in message oups.com... Hello All I have a Belkin 802.11g wireless router with ADSL modem and I want to extend the coverage to an office building that is built on the end of my garage. If I take my notebook into the office I don't get a signal, if however I stand at the door entrance I do get a weak signal. I plan to install a couple of servers in the office and want these to be connected to my wireless network and to the internet. I have decided that I could probably purchase a Bellkin Wireless Access Point and utilise it as a repeater. I could install this repeater in the office building, attach an external antenna to it and then attach this to the outside of the office wall (where there is a weak signal). Hopefully the repeater will boost the signal. I would then simply cable the servers into the access point. One thing I am finding difficult to locate is a high gain aerial that will be ok to be mounted outside on the office wall. Also the aerial will need to have a pretty lengthy cable so I can run it accordingly. Does the antenna need a lengthy cable, or would it be better to situate the transceiver outside, closer to the antenna? A single cat5e cable could supply both power and network connectivity to the external unit. -- JJ The antenna needs a lengthy cable, the repeater also has a built in hub, I think 4 ports. I need to plug my servers into this so I would need to run 4 ethernet cables to the unit. Cheers Richard |
Wireless Networking Conundrum
Timothy Murphy wrote: wrote: I have a Belkin 802.11g wireless router with ADSL modem and I want to extend the coverage to an office building that is built on the end of my garage. If I take my notebook into the office I don't get a signal, if however I stand at the door entrance I do get a weak signal. I plan to install a couple of servers in the office and want these to be connected to my wireless network and to the internet. What distance are you talking about? about 25 metres from the router to the office. If I put the router on the outside window cill I don't get a problem, however it cannot stay there and has to be inside the house. When it is inside the office is several walls away internal and external. What is the office made of? Brick, although the house is made of stone and brick, with plaster and lathe and solid internal walls Cheers Richard Moving the router a little might have some effect. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail (80k only): tim /at/ birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland |
Wireless Networking Conundrum
wrote in message ups.com... Jerry wrote: wrote in message oups.com... snip Does anyone have thoughts on this setup, snip Yes, stop being a lazy bodger, install a wired Cat5 network... There is always one! There are plenty, it's just most don't bother placing their head above the sand bags, just like there are plenty of people who don't believe all the latest marketing hype... |
Wireless Networking Conundrum
"Timothy Murphy" wrote in message ... Jerry wrote: Does anyone have thoughts on this setup, snip Yes, stop being a lazy bodger, install a wired Cat5 network... Come on, ethernet is dead as the dodo. Tell that to people like the MOD, tell that to people who need 1000T networks... I suppose you have telephone outlets in the loo. Who would answer / use the phone whilst on the loo?!... Wireless rules. So the marketing men keep saying, funny how they never highlight the problems, like no or weak reception, or the ability of others to use your (insecure) network... |
Wireless Networking Conundrum
I'm going to side with Jerry - we have extremely network intense operations
at work, and use Cat6 1GB networks - and I don't work at an ISP!! I'd like to see you get a 70GB disk image over a network using wireless... (Mind you... I do get paid per hour.... lol) __________________________________________ The Grim Reaper "Timothy Murphy" wrote in message ... Jerry wrote: Does anyone have thoughts on this setup, snip Yes, stop being a lazy bodger, install a wired Cat5 network... Come on, ethernet is dead as the dodo. I suppose you have telephone outlets in the loo. Wireless rules. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail (80k only): tim /at/ birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland |
Wireless Networking Conundrum
Bob Eager wrote: On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 17:35:59 UTC, wrote: One thing I am finding difficult to locate is a high gain aerial that will be ok to be mounted outside on the office wall. Also the aerial will need to have a pretty lengthy cable so I can run it accordingly. Does anyone have thoughts on this setup, will this work, and also any ideas on where I can get an antenna from that is sutiable for this type of application. Since this is a DIY group, start off by trying your own. Google for 'Pringles antenna'. This is not a joke. Cheers Bob, looks good. Now to find out how the hell I can get the standard antenna off, if I can even! -- The information contained in this post is copyright the poster, and specifically may not be published in, or used by Avenue Supplies, http://avenuesupplies.co.uk |
Wireless Networking Conundrum
In article , Timothy Murphy
writes Jerry wrote: Does anyone have thoughts on this setup, snip Yes, stop being a lazy bodger, install a wired Cat5 network... Come on, ethernet is dead as the dodo. I suppose you have telephone outlets in the loo. Wireless rules. Beg to differ.. especially when there is a bit of 2.4Ghz congestion. Ever heard of netstumbler?.. -- Tony Sayer |
Wireless Networking Conundrum
The Grim Reaper wrote: I'm going to side with Jerry - we have extremely network intense operations at work, and use Cat6 1GB networks - and I don't work at an ISP!! I'd like to see you get a 70GB disk image over a network using wireless... (Mind you... I do get paid per hour.... lol) __________________________________________ The Grim Reaper And why would that be a problem? I have copied GB worth of files from my server to my media centre PC without any problems at all. "Timothy Murphy" wrote in message ... Jerry wrote: Does anyone have thoughts on this setup, snip Yes, stop being a lazy bodger, install a wired Cat5 network... Come on, ethernet is dead as the dodo. I suppose you have telephone outlets in the loo. Wireless rules. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail (80k only): tim /at/ birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland |
Wireless Networking Conundrum
The message
from Timothy Murphy contains these words: Yes, stop being a lazy bodger, install a wired Cat5 network... Come on, ethernet is dead as the dodo. I suppose you have telephone outlets in the loo. I spent an annoying afternoon last week installing cabling for wired ethernet because it still has many advantages over wireless. Mainly it's more reliable and provided your portal to the outside world is secure it's as tight as a duck's arse. I know wireless can be secured, but there's always the chance of getting it wrong, or of the kids starting to explore and move things around. That can't happen with wired. Oh, and it's cheaper. Adding two more PCs cost me under £20, though to do that I had to scrounge a switch as I've used all four ports on my router. -- Skipweasel Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain. |
Wireless Networking Conundrum
Since this is a DIY group, start off by trying your own. Google for
'Pringles antenna'. This is not a joke. "cantenna" |
Wireless Networking Conundrum
"tony sayer" wrote in message ... In article , Timothy Murphy writes Jerry wrote: Does anyone have thoughts on this setup, snip Yes, stop being a lazy bodger, install a wired Cat5 network... Come on, ethernet is dead as the dodo. I suppose you have telephone outlets in the loo. Wireless rules. Beg to differ.. especially when there is a bit of 2.4Ghz congestion. Ever heard of 802.11a? Ever heard of netstumbler?.. Encryption. |
Wireless Networking Conundrum
wrote in message ups.com... The antenna needs a lengthy cable, the repeater also has a built in hub, I think 4 ports. I need to plug my servers into this so I would need to run 4 ethernet cables to the unit. Buy a cheap switch and run one cable from there to a wireless bridge. Mount the wireless bridge in a water proof plastic box on the wall outside. If needed do the same with an access point at the other (router) end. HTH. |
Wireless Networking Conundrum
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember saying something like: One thing I am finding difficult to locate is a high gain aerial that will be ok to be mounted outside on the office wall. Also the aerial will need to have a pretty lengthy cable so I can run it accordingly. In the whole spirit of DIY... http://www.usbwifi.orcon.net.nz/ -- Dave |
Wireless Networking Conundrum
In article .com,
writes Does anyone have thoughts on this setup For heaven's sake, do it properly and run a cable. Wireless networking is the spawn of Satan. -- (\__/) (='.'=) This is Bunny. Copy and paste Bunny into your (")_(") signature to help him gain world domination. http://www.thisisbunny.com/ |
Wireless Networking Conundrum
On 19 Aug 2006 10:35:59 -0700 someone who may be
wrote this:- I have a Belkin 802.11g wireless router with ADSL modem Presumably the radio network works fine throughout the house. and I want to extend the coverage to an office building that is built on the end of my garage. If I take my notebook into the office I don't get a signal, if however I stand at the door entrance I do get a weak signal. I plan to install a couple of servers in the office and want these to be connected to my wireless network and to the internet. Is it important that the servers are always accessible, or are they just for leisure purposes? A bodge that might be acceptable for leisure purposes is probably not going to be acceptable if the servers must be relied on. I have decided that I could probably purchase a Bellkin Wireless Access Point and utilise it as a repeater. I could install this repeater in the office building, attach an external antenna to it and then attach this to the outside of the office wall (where there is a weak signal). If there is a weak signal then there are probably two things that one can say about it: 1) it will be subject to transmission errors. 2) speed will be low in an attempt to cope with 1). If these servers are to be relied on then it is best to install a reliable method of networking over such distances. The best way of doing this is usually by cable, though a dedicated radio link between the two buildings (dedicated access points at each end, dedicated aerials) can be a better bet in a few circumstances. -- David Hansen, Edinburgh I will *always* explain revoked encryption keys, unless RIP prevents me http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000/00023--e.htm#54 |
Wireless Networking Conundrum
Timothy Murphy wrote:
Jerry wrote: Does anyone have thoughts on this setup, snip Yes, stop being a lazy bodger, install a wired Cat5 network... Come on, ethernet is dead as the dodo. I suppose you have telephone outlets in the loo. Wireless rules. If uyopu want your private e-mail broadcast round the neighborhood... |
Wireless Networking Conundrum
wrote in message oups.com... The Grim Reaper wrote: I'm going to side with Jerry - we have extremely network intense operations at work, and use Cat6 1GB networks - and I don't work at an ISP!! I'd like to see you get a 70GB disk image over a network using wireless... (Mind you... I do get paid per hour.... lol) __________________________________________ The Grim Reaper And why would that be a problem? I have copied GB worth of files from my server to my media centre PC without any problems at all. It's not the transfer but the time it takes, also if the file is needed in real time (such as a video file) you just can't do it, you will either have dropped frames of the application will crash. |
Wireless Networking Conundrum
In article , dennis@home
writes "tony sayer" wrote in message ... In article , Timothy Murphy writes Jerry wrote: Does anyone have thoughts on this setup, snip Yes, stop being a lazy bodger, install a wired Cat5 network... Come on, ethernet is dead as the dodo. I suppose you have telephone outlets in the loo. Wireless rules. Beg to differ.. especially when there is a bit of 2.4Ghz congestion. Ever heard of 802.11a? Yes in all its flavours!.. Ever heard of netstumbler?.. Encryption. Yes bin there.. broke that!.. As part of the day job we have strung 1.4, 2.4, and 5.8, 7, and 23 Ghz links across short and quite lengthy distances. If you possibly can, unless you live in the middle of nowhere, wire it. I have yet to see an operational link thats anywhere near as good as wired and with the proliferation of 2.4 Ghz devices and leaky microwave ovens, one of the prime suspects, plus video senders etc none of these units seem to ever achieve all what it sez on the tin!. If you must have wireless consider it useful for temporary connections and nothing much else.. -- Tony Sayer |
Wireless Networking Conundrum
|
Wireless Networking Conundrum
"gort" wrote in message ... Come on, ethernet is dead as the dodo. I suppose you have telephone outlets in the loo. Wireless rules. If you say so!. Not had many probs with it then ? My son-in-law says he can get a wireless connection anywhere, but he obviously hasn't tried the places I've tried!(:-( Alan Dave |
Wireless Networking Conundrum
Like Jerry said - it's the time it takes - we do have other things to do
during the day!! Besides - the networks are under constant use from PLC control busses, safety busses, Windows farting around with it's domain identities - never mind people logging on and off, people disconnecting and reconnecting devices... you name it - they try and use it to break my networks!! _________________________________ The Grim Reaper wrote in message oups.com... The Grim Reaper wrote: I'm going to side with Jerry - we have extremely network intense operations at work, and use Cat6 1GB networks - and I don't work at an ISP!! I'd like to see you get a 70GB disk image over a network using wireless... (Mind you... I do get paid per hour.... lol) __________________________________________ The Grim Reaper And why would that be a problem? I have copied GB worth of files from my server to my media centre PC without any problems at all. "Timothy Murphy" wrote in message ... Jerry wrote: Does anyone have thoughts on this setup, snip Yes, stop being a lazy bodger, install a wired Cat5 network... Come on, ethernet is dead as the dodo. I suppose you have telephone outlets in the loo. Wireless rules. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail (80k only): tim /at/ birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland |
Wireless Networking Conundrum
In message ,
"dennis@home" writes Ever heard of netstumbler?.. Encryption. Bwahahahahahahahahaha. Don't even think of saying WPA, http://www.informit.com/articles/art...?p=369221&rl=1 -- Clint Sharp |
Wireless Networking Conundrum
"Clint Sharp" wrote in message ... In message , "dennis@home" writes Ever heard of netstumbler?.. Encryption. Bwahahahahahahahahaha. Don't even think of saying WPA, I was thinking of ipsec tunnels myself. |
Wireless Networking Conundrum
In message ,
"dennis@home" writes Encryption. Bwahahahahahahahahaha. Don't even think of saying WPA, I was thinking of ipsec tunnels myself. Yeah, cause your average joe even knows what IPsec, let alone has the expertise to set one up. The majority of users don't even know how to set up the router, encryption doesn't even appear on their horizon. -- Clint Sharp |
Wireless Networking Conundrum
"Clint Sharp" wrote in message ... snip encryption doesn't even appear on their horizon. I doubt it's even in their people vocabulary, never mind horizon... |
Wireless Networking Conundrum
dennis@home wrote: wrote in message ups.com... The antenna needs a lengthy cable, the repeater also has a built in hub, I think 4 ports. I need to plug my servers into this so I would need to run 4 ethernet cables to the unit. Buy a cheap switch and run one cable from there to a wireless bridge. Mount the wireless bridge in a water proof plastic box on the wall outside. If needed do the same with an access point at the other (router) end. HTH. Thanks Dennis, good idea. I will go for this solution |
| All times are GMT +1. The time now is 01:17 PM. |
Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004 - 2014 DIYbanter