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ABC August 2nd 06 02:50 PM

[OT] Cold calling challenge
 

"mh" wrote in message
...
I am a TPS (telephone preference service) subscriber which means nobody is
supposed to phone me trying to sell the usual cr@p.
Although it works well, I am getting a lot of calls from abroad where they
cannot be held to account...however I have a new game which helps me
suppress my anger at these scumbags.
When they call, I answer their questions for about twenty seconds, then
tell
them there is somebody at the door and would they hold on. I start the
stopwatch, put the phone on mute and speakerphone, get on with what I was
doing and listen for the hello, hello, are you there ? beeeeeep.
My current record stands at 4m 07seconds from (by the accent) India.
Can anyone beat it, or have a better gotcha?

Mike


A better gotcha is to refuse to answer any questions until they answer some
of your questions. Make your questions completely OT like, "What is your
water company called", or "Who are your colleagues".



mh August 2nd 06 03:30 PM

[OT] Cold calling challenge
 
I am a TPS (telephone preference service) subscriber which means nobody is
supposed to phone me trying to sell the usual cr@p.
Although it works well, I am getting a lot of calls from abroad where they
cannot be held to account...however I have a new game which helps me
suppress my anger at these scumbags.
When they call, I answer their questions for about twenty seconds, then tell
them there is somebody at the door and would they hold on. I start the
stopwatch, put the phone on mute and speakerphone, get on with what I was
doing and listen for the hello, hello, are you there ? beeeeeep.
My current record stands at 4m 07seconds from (by the accent) India.
Can anyone beat it, or have a better gotcha?

Mike



mogga August 2nd 06 03:50 PM

[OT] Cold calling challenge
 
On Wed, 2 Aug 2006 14:30:24 -0000, "mh"
wrote:

I am a TPS (telephone preference service) subscriber which means nobody is
supposed to phone me trying to sell the usual cr@p.
Although it works well, I am getting a lot of calls from abroad where they
cannot be held to account...however I have a new game which helps me
suppress my anger at these scumbags.
When they call, I answer their questions for about twenty seconds, then tell
them there is somebody at the door and would they hold on. I start the
stopwatch, put the phone on mute and speakerphone, get on with what I was
doing and listen for the hello, hello, are you there ? beeeeeep.
My current record stands at 4m 07seconds from (by the accent) India.
Can anyone beat it, or have a better gotcha?

Mike


You've never wound them up enough for them to ring you back repeatedly
for the next half hour?
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Ali Mac August 2nd 06 03:56 PM

[OT] Cold calling challenge
 
"mh" wrote in message
...
I am a TPS (telephone preference service) subscriber which means nobody is
supposed to phone me trying to sell the usual cr@p.
Although it works well, I am getting a lot of calls from abroad where they
cannot be held to account...however I have a new game which helps me
suppress my anger at these scumbags.
When they call, I answer their questions for about twenty seconds, then
tell
them there is somebody at the door and would they hold on. I start the
stopwatch, put the phone on mute and speakerphone, get on with what I was
doing and listen for the hello, hello, are you there ? beeeeeep.
My current record stands at 4m 07seconds from (by the accent) India.
Can anyone beat it, or have a better gotcha?


Like it. I usually still say I'm registered with the TPS and could they not
call me. Mostly they say 'Sorry' very politely and hang up.



Vass August 2nd 06 03:58 PM

[OT] Cold calling challenge
 

"mh" wrote in message
...
I am a TPS (telephone preference service) subscriber which means nobody is
supposed to phone me trying to sell the usual cr@p.
Although it works well, I am getting a lot of calls from abroad where they
cannot be held to account...however I have a new game which helps me
suppress my anger at these scumbags.
When they call, I answer their questions for about twenty seconds, then
tell
them there is somebody at the door and would they hold on. I start the
stopwatch, put the phone on mute and speakerphone, get on with what I was
doing and listen for the hello, hello, are you there ? beeeeeep.
My current record stands at 4m 07seconds from (by the accent) India.
Can anyone beat it, or have a better gotcha?




I ask for their phone number prior to answering any of their Q's
and it always get the repsonse.. brrrrrrrrrrr.....
--
Vass
...................
'02 YZF-R1



Mary Fisher August 2nd 06 04:06 PM

[OT] Cold calling challenge
 

"Ali Mac" wrote in message
...
"mh" wrote in message
...
I am a TPS (telephone preference service) subscriber which means nobody is
supposed to phone me trying to sell the usual cr@p.
Although it works well, I am getting a lot of calls from abroad where
they
cannot be held to account...however I have a new game which helps me
suppress my anger at these scumbags.
When they call, I answer their questions for about twenty seconds, then
tell
them there is somebody at the door and would they hold on. I start the
stopwatch, put the phone on mute and speakerphone, get on with what I was
doing and listen for the hello, hello, are you there ? beeeeeep.
My current record stands at 4m 07seconds from (by the accent) India.
Can anyone beat it, or have a better gotcha?


Like it. I usually still say I'm registered with the TPS and could they
not call me. Mostly they say 'Sorry' very politely and hang up.


Same here.

Mary





ABC August 2nd 06 04:36 PM

[OT] Cold calling challenge
 

"Mary Fisher" wrote in message
. net...

"Ali Mac" wrote in message
...
"mh" wrote in message
...
I am a TPS (telephone preference service) subscriber which means nobody
is
supposed to phone me trying to sell the usual cr@p.
Although it works well, I am getting a lot of calls from abroad where
they
cannot be held to account...however I have a new game which helps me
suppress my anger at these scumbags.
When they call, I answer their questions for about twenty seconds, then
tell
them there is somebody at the door and would they hold on. I start the
stopwatch, put the phone on mute and speakerphone, get on with what I
was
doing and listen for the hello, hello, are you there ? beeeeeep.
My current record stands at 4m 07seconds from (by the accent) India.
Can anyone beat it, or have a better gotcha?


Like it. I usually still say I'm registered with the TPS and could they
not call me. Mostly they say 'Sorry' very politely and hang up.


Same here.

Mary





The problem with this approach is that the company should filter out
telephone numbers which are registered with TPS. Some telesales companies
purchase lists of numbers from unscrupious sources where the numbers aren't
filtered out. It is the fault of the telesales companies and they deserve
all that they get.



Dave Plowman (News) August 2nd 06 04:40 PM

[OT] Cold calling challenge
 
In article ,
mogga wrote:
You've never wound them up enough for them to ring you back repeatedly
for the next half hour?


Yup. ;-)

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Alan Holmes August 2nd 06 04:42 PM

[OT] Cold calling challenge
 

"ABC" wrote in message
...

"mh" wrote in message
...
I am a TPS (telephone preference service) subscriber which means nobody is
supposed to phone me trying to sell the usual cr@p.
Although it works well, I am getting a lot of calls from abroad where
they
cannot be held to account...however I have a new game which helps me
suppress my anger at these scumbags.
When they call, I answer their questions for about twenty seconds, then
tell
them there is somebody at the door and would they hold on. I start the
stopwatch, put the phone on mute and speakerphone, get on with what I was
doing and listen for the hello, hello, are you there ? beeeeeep.
My current record stands at 4m 07seconds from (by the accent) India.
Can anyone beat it, or have a better gotcha?

Mike


A better gotcha is to refuse to answer any questions until they answer
some of your questions. Make your questions completely OT like, "What is
your water company called", or "Who are your colleagues".


And, if it's a female, ask what colour knickers are you wearing, that stops
them instantly.

I haven't yet had a man calling, but if it was, I might ask whether he likes
going to bed with other men!

Alan






Alan Holmes August 2nd 06 04:43 PM

[OT] Cold calling challenge
 

"Mary Fisher" wrote in message
. net...


Like it. I usually still say I'm registered with the TPS and could they
not call me. Mostly they say 'Sorry' very politely and hang up.


Same here.


Oh dear, I didn't know you read this newsgroup, I just posted a rude
comment!

Alan


Mary







Kev August 2nd 06 04:49 PM

Cold calling challenge
 

mogga wrote:


You've never wound them up enough for them to ring you back repeatedly
for the next half hour?
--
Get away from it all
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Late deals, mega cheap flights and bargains


The first thing is that they can never pronounce my name correctly so
that is always a give away. I then always ask them where they are
calling from and of course they always lie and say that they are
calling from somewhere in the UK. I then challenge their accent and
they then say it is becuase they are Indian to which I reply that I
know a few Indians and have worked with plenty and none of them have an
accent like they do. At that point they usually give up and hang up but
I did have one persistant cow who had the nerve to phone me back and
tell me not to be racist.
And there was me thinking that there with there lies and arrogant
attitude it was them being racist not to mention that it is my phone so
I will talk to or not talk to who ever I damn well please.

Kevin


Mary Fisher August 2nd 06 05:00 PM

[OT] Cold calling challenge
 

"ABC" wrote in message
...


Like it. I usually still say I'm registered with the TPS and could they
not call me. Mostly they say 'Sorry' very politely and hang up.


Same here.

Mary





The problem with this approach is that the company should filter out
telephone numbers which are registered with TPS. Some telesales companies
purchase lists of numbers from unscrupious sources where the numbers
aren't filtered out. It is the fault of the telesales companies and they
deserve all that they get.


We get very few such calls, perhaps two a year. I get more wrong numbers.

What I dislike more is text messages from numbers I don't recognise and
which don't give names yet the messages seem to be designed to make the
recipient interested enough to ring back. For example, one yesterday said
something like, "we're leaving early for our holiday tomorrow, i'll think of
you". I never have rung back.

Mary

Mary





Mary Fisher August 2nd 06 05:01 PM

[OT] Cold calling challenge
 

"Alan Holmes" wrote in message
...

"Mary Fisher" wrote in message
. net...


Like it. I usually still say I'm registered with the TPS and could they
not call me. Mostly they say 'Sorry' very politely and hang up.


Same here.


Oh dear, I didn't know you read this newsgroup, I just posted a rude
comment!


I ignore rude comments. They say more about the sender than about me.

Mary

Alan


Mary









ABC August 2nd 06 05:19 PM

Cold calling challenge
 

wrote in message
oups.com...

Alan Holmes wrote:
"ABC" wrote in message
...

"mh" wrote in message
...
I am a TPS (telephone preference service) subscriber which means nobody
is
supposed to phone me trying to sell the usual cr@p.
Although it works well, I am getting a lot of calls from abroad where
they
cannot be held to account...however I have a new game which helps me
suppress my anger at these scumbags.
When they call, I answer their questions for about twenty seconds,
then
tell
them there is somebody at the door and would they hold on. I start the
stopwatch, put the phone on mute and speakerphone, get on with what I
was
doing and listen for the hello, hello, are you there ? beeeeeep.
My current record stands at 4m 07seconds from (by the accent) India.
Can anyone beat it, or have a better gotcha?

Mike


A better gotcha is to refuse to answer any questions until they answer
some of your questions. Make your questions completely OT like, "What
is
your water company called", or "Who are your colleagues".


And, if it's a female, ask what colour knickers are you wearing, that
stops
them instantly.

I haven't yet had a man calling, but if it was, I might ask whether he
likes
going to bed with other men!

Alan


..and find yourself on the wrong end of a sexual harassment lawsuit.
Remember they are probably recording whatever you say.
In these days where burglars can potentially end up suing their
victims, you can't be too careful.


They won't sue as they are in breach of the TPS regulations. If they do try
to sue for sexual harrassment, then you can counter-sue for bypassing the
TPS filter system. Some of the telesales companies know full well that
numbers they call are TPS-registered but they don't give a damn.



ABC August 2nd 06 05:23 PM

Cold calling challenge
 

wrote in message
oups.com...

Alan Holmes wrote:
"ABC" wrote in message
...

"mh" wrote in message
...
I am a TPS (telephone preference service) subscriber which means nobody
is
supposed to phone me trying to sell the usual cr@p.
Although it works well, I am getting a lot of calls from abroad where
they
cannot be held to account...however I have a new game which helps me
suppress my anger at these scumbags.
When they call, I answer their questions for about twenty seconds,
then
tell
them there is somebody at the door and would they hold on. I start the
stopwatch, put the phone on mute and speakerphone, get on with what I
was
doing and listen for the hello, hello, are you there ? beeeeeep.
My current record stands at 4m 07seconds from (by the accent) India.
Can anyone beat it, or have a better gotcha?

Mike


A better gotcha is to refuse to answer any questions until they answer
some of your questions. Make your questions completely OT like, "What
is
your water company called", or "Who are your colleagues".


And, if it's a female, ask what colour knickers are you wearing, that
stops
them instantly.

I haven't yet had a man calling, but if it was, I might ask whether he
likes
going to bed with other men!

Alan


..and find yourself on the wrong end of a sexual harassment lawsuit.
Remember they are probably recording whatever you say.
In these days where burglars can potentially end up suing their
victims, you can't be too careful.

Also don't forget the more people that sign up for TPS (and BT's version of
it) then the less people these telesales companies can legally call. THey
will try and resort to immoral or unethical practices to get their call to
you.



[email protected] August 2nd 06 05:34 PM

Cold calling challenge
 

ABC wrote:
Also don't forget the more people that sign up for TPS (and BT's version of
it) then the less people these telesales companies can legally call. THey
will try and resort to immoral or unethical practices to get their call to
you.


Yes, we're TPS registered, ex-directory, and have caller id. When the
occasional cold caller gets through that lot, the spiel would often be
"you recently took part in a survey....".
I don't think so.


Fred August 2nd 06 05:41 PM

Cold calling challenge
 

"ABC" wrote in message
...

wrote in message

..and find yourself on the wrong end of a sexual harassment lawsuit.
Remember they are probably recording whatever you say.
In these days where burglars can potentially end up suing their
victims, you can't be too careful.

Also don't forget the more people that sign up for TPS (and BT's version
of it) then the less people these telesales companies can legally call.
THey will try and resort to immoral or unethical practices to get their
call to you.


I hate the idea that TPS will sell your number to "legitimate" third
parties.

What's BT's version? I can't find anything about it on their website.



[email protected] August 2nd 06 06:29 PM

Cold calling challenge
 

mh wrote:
I am a TPS (telephone preference service) subscriber which means nobody is
supposed to phone me trying to sell the usual cr@p.


[...]

I got a call from what appeared to be an automatic (but interacting)
system the other day; babble, babble, babble, ... I wasn't listening;
when I said my usual "thank you, goodbye", it demanded that I answer
yes or no. I was busy at the time, so I didn't allow the experiment to
continue.

Jon C.


mogga August 2nd 06 06:48 PM

[OT] Cold calling challenge
 
On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 16:40:40 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
mogga wrote:
You've never wound them up enough for them to ring you back repeatedly
for the next half hour?


Yup. ;-)


Cool. I'm glad I'm not the only one. :)
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Peter Lynch August 2nd 06 06:56 PM

Cold calling challenge
 
On 2 Aug 2006 10:29:30 -0700, wrote:

mh wrote:
I am a TPS (telephone preference service) subscriber which means nobody is
supposed to phone me trying to sell the usual cr@p.


[...]

I got a call from what appeared to be an automatic (but interacting)
system the other day; babble, babble, babble, ... I wasn't listening;
when I said my usual "thank you, goodbye", it demanded that I answer
yes or no. I was busy at the time, so I didn't allow the experiment to
continue.



Yes, I got one of these calls today, it was asking me how many
Sky boxes I had and would only take yes/no answers. Since this
had some novelty value (now worn off), I played with it, trying
to find out how good its voice recognition was. Surprisingly
good actually.
The moral is that it looks like the end of the line for telesales
_people_ as this system must work out cheaper.

Pete
.................................................. .........................
.. never trust a man who, when left alone ...... Pete Lynch .
.. in a room with a tea cosy ...... Marlow, England .
.. doesn't try it on (Billy Connolly) .....................................


Clive George August 2nd 06 07:03 PM

Cold calling challenge
 
"Peter Lynch" wrote in message
...

I got a call from what appeared to be an automatic (but interacting)
system the other day; babble, babble, babble, ... I wasn't listening;
when I said my usual "thank you, goodbye", it demanded that I answer
yes or no. I was busy at the time, so I didn't allow the experiment to
continue.


Yes, I got one of these calls today, it was asking me how many
Sky boxes I had and would only take yes/no answers. Since this
had some novelty value (now worn off), I played with it, trying
to find out how good its voice recognition was. Surprisingly
good actually.


I said 'bugger' to the one I had and it hung up.

cheers,
clive



Guy King August 2nd 06 07:18 PM

[OT] Cold calling challenge
 
The message
from "mh" contains these words:

Can anyone beat it, or have a better gotcha?


Start talking normally, then suddenly scream, shout "No, the knife" and
drop a few pans and things on the floor and make gurgling noises. Then
sit very quietly.

"Mr King? Mr King, are you alright?" They sounded really worried!


Alternatively, the "Stream of consciousness" method.

"Oooh, I'm so glad you called. I've been stuck in this flat all on my
own for days 'cos my leg hurts so much and it's so good to have someone
to talk to after all, the doctor won't come out and the district nurse
only stays about two minutes and the neighbours are ever so good but
never stay long enough for a good long natter and I'm had such trouble
with my waterjbexes and then theres the sciatica and did I tell you the
man over the road's spying on my with his WWP aerial and even though
I've knitted some bloomers and a hat out of fine silver wire to keep out
the rays he's still looking into my head and putting in all sorts of
dirty thoughts about the vicar I mean some of the things I've been
thinking about haven't even got a name for or at least not a name I've
ever heard and the vicar's such a nice man though that wife of his is
dreadful it can't be right to go out wearing those sorts of clothes when
you're the vicar's wife even in the summer and certainly not when it's
not far of freezing and there's an east wind blowing but then that seems
to be the sort of thing they do these days I blame the soaps on TV 'cos
they're all run by the drug companies to make people depressed so they
need more drugs to keep them happy but the government and the aliens
behind it tell them to make people wear less clothes to get us ready for
global warming which is all a plot by the aliens so that the worlds warm
enough to suit their reptile natures 'cos they're all lizards, and I
don't mean lounge lizards like that George Lazenby though he wasn't as
good as Roger Moore but the best Bond was Sean Canary but he's a
Freemason and we all know what they're like they're hand in glove with
the other aliens, the ones that are trying to stop the lizard men they
look like little goldfish in fact that was what they masqueraded as for
years being given away to little children at fairs so as to spread their
influence across the world before making their play for world domination
did you know that their bowls are that shape because it focuses waves in
the ether that they use to communicate with their space ships which are
all in orbit around Venus which isn't the hot sulphurous planet they're
now pretending it is but more like the Perelandra all wet and fishy
which is why they live there in the first place though it isn't really
their home world at all and they use the National Grid to control the
thoughts of anyone wearing a bicycle helmet so anyone wearing a helmet
is under the control of the aliens but they don't know it all the helmet
factories in the world are under the control of the fish people who make
their money by collecting all the lost socks from the insides of tumble
dryers and selling them at car boot sales but not washing machines that
franchise is owned by the frog people who are their sworn enemies....
HELLO ARE YOU STILL THERE?"

--
Skipweasel
Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.

Dave Fawthrop August 2nd 06 07:21 PM

[OT] Cold calling challenge
 
On Wed, 2 Aug 2006 14:30:24 -0000, "mh" wrote:

|I am a TPS (telephone preference service) subscriber which means nobody is
|supposed to phone me trying to sell the usual cr@p.
|Although it works well, I am getting a lot of calls from abroad where they
|cannot be held to account...however I have a new game which helps me
|suppress my anger at these scumbags.
|When they call, I answer their questions for about twenty seconds, then tell
|them there is somebody at the door and would they hold on. I start the
|stopwatch, put the phone on mute and speakerphone, get on with what I was
|doing and listen for the hello, hello, are you there ? beeeeeep.
|My current record stands at 4m 07seconds from (by the accent) India.
|Can anyone beat it, or have a better gotcha?


I have several killer comments which are guaranteed to shut them up, all of
them more or less true.
When they are trying to sell me adverts in local papers, I say "that would
be no use for customers in Chile".
Was that your computer which rang me a minute ago, and hung up before I
could answer it?
No I am with ???? (a competitor) and so on.
--
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method of accessing usenet. GG subscribers would be well advised get a
newsreader, say Agent, and a newsserver, say news.individual.net. These
will allow them: to see only *new* posts, a killfile, and other goodies.

Guy King August 2nd 06 07:23 PM

Cold calling challenge
 
The message . com
from contains these words:

"you recently took part in a survey....".


I had a stand-up row with a BG door to door salesman who started his
spiel "This is just a courtesy call"
"Excuse me, I don't like being lied to particularly on my own doorstep"
"Pardon, what lie?"
"You're not making a courtesy call, this is a doorstep sales call"

Eventually he went away in a huff. A few weeks later another one was
back again, but this time at least didn't lie the moment he opened his
mouth. Got chatting to him[1] and he said the previous incumbent had
left under a cloud.

[1] Long and involved story about why I wouldn't touch BG if they were
the only gass supplier in town.

--
Skipweasel
Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.

[email protected] August 2nd 06 08:01 PM

[OT] Cold calling challenge
 
Mary Fisher wrote:

"Alan Holmes" wrote in message
...

"Mary Fisher" wrote in message
. net...


Like it. I usually still say I'm registered with the TPS and could they
not call me. Mostly they say 'Sorry' very politely and hang up.

Same here.


Oh dear, I didn't know you read this newsgroup, I just posted a rude
comment!


I ignore rude comments. They say more about the sender than about me.

If you ignore them how do you know they're rude?

--
Chris Green

Pet @ www.gymratz.co.uk ¬) August 2nd 06 08:17 PM

[OT] Cold calling challenge
 
Richard Cole wrote:

When you have the info go to


LOL!
You really think you would be able to get all that info?
They hang up before you have anywhere near enough.

On the Indian call centers I constantly repeat "I'm sorry, I can't
understand a word you're saying"

One chap we did have a great larff with.
We passed him from one of us to the other pretending to be different
departments while standing the phone by the radio for a few minutes
before passing him on again.

That one went on for 4minutes 30s or so before he hung up.

:¬))


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John White August 2nd 06 08:32 PM

[OT] Cold calling challenge
 
"mh" wrote:

I am a TPS (telephone preference service) subscriber which means nobody is
supposed to phone me trying to sell the usual cr@p.
Although it works well, I am getting a lot of calls from abroad where they
cannot be held to account...however I have a new game which helps me
suppress my anger at these scumbags.
When they call, I answer their questions for about twenty seconds, then tell
them there is somebody at the door and would they hold on. I start the
stopwatch, put the phone on mute and speakerphone, get on with what I was
doing and listen for the hello, hello, are you there ? beeeeeep.
My current record stands at 4m 07seconds from (by the accent) India.
Can anyone beat it, or have a better gotcha?


Recently I've had some pratt from the bank repeatedly ringing me out
of hours to discuss how they can "assist my business to expand".

They always start off by saying "I'm Jo Bloggs calling from...." at
which point I interrupt them with "No you're not".

This always seems to throw them as they will then try to prove that
they really are who they claim to be, to which I respond by dismissing
the "proof" they offer - such as by pointing out the bank is closed.

This can go on for quite a while if I'm /really/ bored.

John
--
John White,
Electrical Contractor

Andrew Gabriel August 2nd 06 08:54 PM

[OT] Cold calling challenge
 
In article ,
mogga writes:
You've never wound them up enough for them to ring you back repeatedly
for the next half hour?


I had one ring me back and threaten to beat me up. Does that count?

--
Andrew Gabriel

Dave Plowman (News) August 2nd 06 08:56 PM

[OT] Cold calling challenge
 
In article ,
Guy King wrote:
Alternatively, the "Stream of consciousness" method.


Absolutely fooking brilliant. ;-)

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Andrew Gabriel August 2nd 06 08:56 PM

Cold calling challenge
 
In article ,
Peter Lynch writes:
Yes, I got one of these calls today, it was asking me how many
Sky boxes I had and would only take yes/no answers. Since this
had some novelty value (now worn off), I played with it, trying
to find out how good its voice recognition was. Surprisingly
good actually.
The moral is that it looks like the end of the line for telesales
_people_ as this system must work out cheaper.


I believe it's not legal in UK though, not that this seems
to worry many of them.

--
Andrew Gabriel

Sylvain VAN DER WALDE August 2nd 06 09:45 PM

[OT] Cold calling challenge
 

"mh" wrote in message
...
I am a TPS (telephone preference service) subscriber which means nobody is
supposed to phone me trying to sell the usual cr@p.
Although it works well, I am getting a lot of calls from abroad where they
cannot be held to account...however I have a new game which helps me
suppress my anger at these scumbags.
When they call, I answer their questions for about twenty seconds, then
tell
them there is somebody at the door and would they hold on. I start the
stopwatch, put the phone on mute and speakerphone, get on with what I was
doing and listen for the hello, hello, are you there ? beeeeeep.
My current record stands at 4m 07seconds from (by the accent) India.
Can anyone beat it, or have a better gotcha?


Get an answerphone.

Sylvain.

Mike





Derek ^ August 2nd 06 10:24 PM

Cold calling challenge
 
On 02 Aug 2006 19:56:49 GMT, (Andrew
Gabriel) wrote:

In article ,
Peter Lynch writes:
Yes, I got one of these calls today, it was asking me how many
Sky boxes I had and would only take yes/no answers. Since this
had some novelty value (now worn off), I played with it, trying
to find out how good its voice recognition was. Surprisingly
good actually.
The moral is that it looks like the end of the line for telesales
_people_ as this system must work out cheaper.


I believe it's not legal in UK though, not that this seems
to worry many of them.


It won't will it, they'll be machines won't they. :-))

DG


Dave Plowman (News) August 2nd 06 10:29 PM

[OT] Cold calling challenge
 
In article ,
Sylvain VAN DER WALDE wrote:
Get an answerphone.


I find 'blank' messages on the answerphone perhaps more galling than
cold calls.

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John White August 2nd 06 11:13 PM

[OT] Cold calling challenge
 
"Sylvain VAN DER WALDE" wrote:

"mh" wrote in message
...
I am a TPS (telephone preference service) subscriber which means nobody is
supposed to phone me trying to sell the usual cr@p.
Although it works well, I am getting a lot of calls from abroad where they
cannot be held to account...


Get an answerphone.


Mine once filled its tape with 30 minutes of "You have won a holiday
in Florida...press 9 to claim your prize. (pause) You have won a
holiday in Florida...press 9 to claim your prize..."

John
--
John White,
Electrical Contractor

Dave Fawthrop August 3rd 06 07:06 AM

[OT] Cold calling challenge
 
On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 20:45:50 GMT, "Sylvain VAN DER WALDE"
wrote:

|
|"mh" wrote in message
...
|I am a TPS (telephone preference service) subscriber which means nobody is
| supposed to phone me trying to sell the usual cr@p.
| Although it works well, I am getting a lot of calls from abroad where they
| cannot be held to account...however I have a new game which helps me
| suppress my anger at these scumbags.
| When they call, I answer their questions for about twenty seconds, then
| tell
| them there is somebody at the door and would they hold on. I start the
| stopwatch, put the phone on mute and speakerphone, get on with what I was
| doing and listen for the hello, hello, are you there ? beeeeeep.
| My current record stands at 4m 07seconds from (by the accent) India.
| Can anyone beat it, or have a better gotcha?
|
|Get an answerphone.

My answerphone message once said "Hi this is Dave Fawthrop's anti
salesperson device. If I would want to talk to you leave a message,
salespersons should ring off now"
--
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method of accessing usenet. GG subscribers would be well advised get a
newsreader, say Agent, and a newsserver, say news.individual.net. These
will allow them: to see only *new* posts, a killfile, and other goodies.

Dave Fawthrop August 3rd 06 08:00 AM

[OT] Cold calling challenge
 
On Thu, 3 Aug 2006 07:37:23 +0100, "Bob Mannix"
wrote:


|
|Well indeed but you aren't getting at the company you are just getting at
|the caller who gets paid for the number of calls they make. The company
|isn't hurt at all and a low-waged person in a **** job just gets less money.
|That's why I don't succumb to temptation and always hang up politely but
|firmly and instantly.

Then they just ring you back, or worse, hit the "failed to contact" key on
the computer, which then rings you again at some indeterminate time :-(
--
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method of accessing usenet. GG subscribers would be well advised get a
newsreader, say Agent, and a newsserver, say news.individual.net. These
will allow them: to see only *new* posts, a killfile, and other goodies.

Bob Mannix August 3rd 06 08:14 AM

[OT] Cold calling challenge
 

"Dave Fawthrop" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 3 Aug 2006 07:37:23 +0100, "Bob Mannix"
wrote:


|
|Well indeed but you aren't getting at the company you are just getting at
|the caller who gets paid for the number of calls they make. The company
|isn't hurt at all and a low-waged person in a **** job just gets less
money.
|That's why I don't succumb to temptation and always hang up politely but
|firmly and instantly.

Then they just ring you back, or worse, hit the "failed to contact" key on
the computer, which then rings you again at some indeterminate time :-(


Never had a later call back and only once had a call back immediately. "We
seemed to get cut off". Then I deemed it acceptable to be rude! If you make
it a definite "No, I'm not interested" they tend to cut their losses as they
are, after all, interested in leads not just calls.

I did succumb to their charms once when I was offered (before I could put
the phone down) a free holiday if I took the Oxford Mail for a month free.
Couldn't really see a catch (other than remembering to cancel it after three
weeks) and there wasn't one. We got a free room for two nights in a nice
hotel and just had to have breakfast and dinner there which was a bit more
than we would have paid normally but not too bad. Well worth it as it turned
out. Can't think they made much business out of that but that's their look
out!


--
Bob Mannix
(anti-spam is as easy as 1-2-3 - not)


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will allow them: to see only *new* posts, a killfile, and other goodies.




Guy King August 3rd 06 09:20 AM

[OT] Cold calling challenge
 
The message
from Steve contains these words:

Nothing like a bit of old fashioned bull****.


"No I don't have any windows"


Or the door to door window people...

"Er hang on" steps outside "Nope, still appear to have the windows there".

or

"Sorry, I use Linux"

or, as happened to Dad, salesman called and told him all his windows
were obsolete and needed to be replaced. Dad got it in writing and then
asked the firm that had installed them the year before to replace them
since one of their own salesmen told him they were obsolete.

--
Skipweasel
Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.

Broadback August 3rd 06 09:52 AM

[OT] Cold calling challenge
 
Steve wrote:
On Wed, 2 Aug 2006 14:30:24 -0000, mh wrote:

Can anyone beat it, or have a better gotcha?



Nothing like a bit of old fashioned bull****.

"No I don't have any windows"

followed by one of

"I live in the basement"
"I live in a nuclear bunker"
"I bricked up my windows to save energy"
etc
The possibilities are endless.

Steve

A bit off this topic, but I see that Royal Mail employees have agreed to
up the load they will carry. This is so that the RM can post more
un-addressed junk through your letter box. It seems there is no way to
stop this!

Dave Plowman (News) August 3rd 06 10:00 AM

[OT] Cold calling challenge
 
In article ,
Broadback wrote:
A bit off this topic, but I see that Royal Mail employees have agreed to
up the load they will carry. This is so that the RM can post more
un-addressed junk through your letter box. It seems there is no way to
stop this!


There's a mail preference service similar to the TPS and it really does
work for the junk mail that the postman delivers. Now if only there were
the same for leaflets, etc...

--
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Dave Plowman London SW
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