Was just wondering if anyone had any suggestions on the specifications
and/or brands to look out for when choosing energy saving light bulbs?

Or if anyone has any suggestions of low price retailers of energy
saving light bulbs?

Or any other info about them... Thank you!

Morrisons are selling Philips 60W & 100W equivalents for 49p a go IIRC.

Thanks - is that for energy saving light bulbs?

I thought they were a lot more expensive than that...

Yes they are energy saving - from memory the 60W equivalent are around
11W and the 100W equivalent around 16W. In my semi-local store there
are a random mixture of BC & ES on the shelves, just something to be
aware of.

wrote:
Yes they are energy saving - from memory the 60W equivalent are around
11W and the 100W equivalent around 16W. In my semi-local store there
are a random mixture of BC & ES on the shelves, just something to be
aware of.

Thanks for the info.

In message .com,
writes

wrote:
Yes they are energy saving - from memory the 60W equivalent are around
11W and the 100W equivalent around 16W. In my semi-local store there
are a random mixture of BC & ES on the shelves, just something to be
aware of.

Thanks for the info.

Ditto Morrisons here. 99p each but on a bogof offer. Philips brand. As
near instant start as any CFL lamps I've used, although usual few minute
warm up to full brightness.

--
steve

wrote:
Yes they are energy saving - from memory the 60W equivalent are around
11W and the 100W equivalent around 16W. In my semi-local store there
are a random mixture of BC & ES on the shelves, just something to be
aware of.

rant
B*ll*cks! 11W is about equivalent to 50W and 16W to about 80W (at most).
These bl**dy equivalents are are lies!

I've yet to find a CFL that can match a 100W conventional bulb in output.

/rant

Tim

"Tim Downie" wrote in message
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wrote:
Yes they are energy saving - from memory the 60W equivalent are around
11W and the 100W equivalent around 16W. In my semi-local store there
are a random mixture of BC & ES on the shelves, just something to be
aware of.

rant
B*ll*cks! 11W is about equivalent to 50W and 16W to about 80W (at most).
These bl**dy equivalents are are lies!

I've yet to find a CFL that can match a 100W conventional bulb in output.

/rant


There are many types of 100w conventional bulbs.
I am quite sure you could find ones that are dimmer than a CFL if you look
harder.

On 3 May 2006 06:19:42 -0700 someone who may be
wrote this:-

Or if anyone has any suggestions of low price retailers of energy
saving light bulbs?

Use a search engine, on this group and more widely, instead of
expecting to be spoon-fed. They were discussed a few days ago.


--
David Hansen, Edinburgh
I will *always* explain revoked encryption keys, unless RIP prevents me
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000/00023--e.htm#54

David Hansen wrote:


Use a search engine, on this group and more widely, instead of
expecting to be spoon-fed. They were discussed a few days ago.


Sorry dear...PMT...?

On 3 May 2006 07:20:52 -0700 someone who may be
wrote this:-

Use a search engine, on this group and more widely, instead of
expecting to be spoon-fed. They were discussed a few days ago.

Sorry dear...PMT...?

Nice try. Now get off your fat backside and do some work for
yourself, instead of expecting others to do it for you.

Baby birds sit on their backsides, squawking and expecting mummy or
daddy bird to stuff worms down their throat.


--
David Hansen, Edinburgh
I will *always* explain revoked encryption keys, unless RIP prevents me
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000/00023--e.htm#54

wrote:
Was just wondering if anyone had any suggestions on the specifications
and/or brands to look out for when choosing energy saving light bulbs?

Or if anyone has any suggestions of low price retailers of energy
saving light bulbs?

Or any other info about them... Thank you!

fwiw I had a couple of philps and didnt like them, Osram I've had good
results with. Equivalent power is at best 4x, so ignore the wattage
equivalent nonsense on the pack.

And stay well away from cheapie £1 jobs. Whatevcer you use will save
you the cost of the bulb several times over, so its ok to get 1 of each
of a few brands if youre new to them. Some are excellent, some so-so,
some borderline, and the £1 halophosphate jobs are dire.


NT

wrote:
wrote:
Was just wondering if anyone had any suggestions on the specifications
and/or brands to look out for when choosing energy saving light bulbs?

Or if anyone has any suggestions of low price retailers of energy
saving light bulbs?

Or any other info about them... Thank you!
snip
And stay well away from cheapie ?1 jobs. Whatevcer you use will save
you the cost of the bulb several times over, so its ok to get 1 of each
of a few brands if youre new to them. Some are excellent, some so-so,
some borderline, and the ?1 halophosphate jobs are dire.

Personally, I quite like the Morrisons 49p philps ones.

I've installed 20 as garage lights, on a wire, along the middle of a
20*4m room.
Works well, and is a hell of a lot brighter and saves energy over the
other choice, which was 2*500W floodlights.

Ian Stirling wrote:

Personally, I quite like the Morrisons 49p philps ones.

I've installed 20 as garage lights, on a wire, along the middle of a
20*4m room.
Works well, and is a hell of a lot brighter and saves energy over the
other choice, which was 2*500W floodlights.

you've got a 20m garage? That would explain a lot, all the things you
get upto

But I still havent figured out why you were running a several foot long
fl tube at 1uA!


NT

wrote:
Ian Stirling wrote:

Personally, I quite like the Morrisons 49p philps ones.

I've installed 20 as garage lights, on a wire, along the middle of a
20*4m room.
Works well, and is a hell of a lot brighter and saves energy over the
other choice, which was 2*500W floodlights.

you've got a 20m garage? That would explain a lot, all the things you
get upto

Err, typo.
Well, thinko.
It's more like 10.

But I still havent figured out why you were running a several foot long
fl tube at 1uA!

To measure the V/I curve of the discharge.
It was quite pretty in the dark, a moon-like glow.

Ian Stirling wrote:
wrote:
Ian Stirling wrote:

Personally, I quite like the Morrisons 49p philps ones.

I've installed 20 as garage lights, on a wire, along the middle of a
20*4m room.
Works well, and is a hell of a lot brighter and saves energy over the
other choice, which was 2*500W floodlights.

you've got a 20m garage? That would explain a lot, all the things you
get upto

Err, typo.
Well, thinko.
It's more like 10.

But I still havent figured out why you were running a several foot long
fl tube at 1uA!

To measure the V/I curve of the discharge.
It was quite pretty in the dark, a moon-like glow.

ah, I guessed wrong. Thought maybe you were looking to make the worlds
highest efficacy nightlighting system.


NT

Ian Stirling wrote:
Personally, I quite like the Morrisons 49p philps ones.
I've installed 20 as garage lights, on a wire, along the middle of a
20*4m room.

That is a good sized garage.


Works well, and is a hell of a lot brighter and saves energy over the
other choice, which was 2*500W floodlights.

How do these things cope in the cold?

Chris Bacon wrote:
Ian Stirling wrote:
Personally, I quite like the Morrisons 49p philps ones.
I've installed 20 as garage lights, on a wire, along the middle of a
20*4m room.

That is a good sized garage.

Indeed - I meant 12*4

Works well, and is a hell of a lot brighter and saves energy over the
other choice, which was 2*500W floodlights.

How do these things cope in the cold?

A bit slow to warm up.
But then, because they were so cheap, I've put in about double the
wattage that I really 'need', so to get up to half 'normal' brightness
isn't bad at all.
(based on one test with one inthe fridge)

Ian Stirling wrote:
Chris Bacon wrote:
Ian Stirling wrote:
Personally, I quite like the Morrisons 49p philps ones.
I've installed 20 as garage lights, on a wire, along the middle of a
20*4m room.

That is a good sized garage.

Indeed - I meant 12*4

That's *still* a good-sized garage!


Works well, and is a hell of a lot brighter and saves energy over the
other choice, which was 2*500W floodlights.

How do these things cope in the cold?


A bit slow to warm up.
But then, because they were so cheap, I've put in about double the
wattage that I really 'need', so to get up to half 'normal' brightness
isn't bad at all.

So they will start OK, unlike (seemingly) my 4' or 5' tubes?


(based on one test with one inthe fridge)

That's nice & thorough. What about sub-zero, I wonder?