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David August 31st 03 05:38 PM

Fluorescent lights - heat rating of cable?
 
I'm currently installing some fluorescent tubes. The fitting
instructions state:
"Important notice: switch start ballast casings may reach high
temperatures in normal use and may damage standard insulation cables.
Where supply cables run adjacent to choke, use cable rated at not less
than 150 deg C, or alternatively use heat resistant sleeving".

Now, the cable access holes for the fitting are cleverly positioned so
that it's impossible to wire it up *without* running cable immediately
past the start ballast casing (this presumably refers to the chunky
metal PSU-like device inside the fitting??). So my query is, do I
need to worry about this, or is my normal 1.5mm2 lighting cable up to
the task? It doesn't have any temperature rating on the reel or the
cable; is 150 deg a high temp for cable? If I need this sleeving, is
it readily available? (makes you wonder why the mfr couldn't include
some with the fitting!?)

Thanks
David

Dave Plowman August 31st 03 11:38 PM

Fluorescent lights - heat rating of cable?
 
In article ,
David wrote:
I'm currently installing some fluorescent tubes. The fitting
instructions state:
"Important notice: switch start ballast casings may reach high
temperatures in normal use and may damage standard insulation cables.
Where supply cables run adjacent to choke, use cable rated at not less
than 150 deg C, or alternatively use heat resistant sleeving".


I'd query you using switch start ballasts in this day and age - have you
investigated electronic types? They only get mildly warm.

--
*Arkansas State Motto: Don't Ask, Don't Tell, Don't Laugh.

Dave Plowman London SW 12
RIP Acorn

John September 1st 03 08:36 AM

Fluorescent lights - heat rating of cable?
 
you are using the wrong hole

As the actress said to the Bishop! Oooh Eeer missus!




David September 1st 03 10:26 AM

Fluorescent lights - heat rating of cable?
 
Bob Minchin wrote in message ...
David wrote:

I'm currently installing some fluorescent tubes. The fitting
instructions state:
"Important notice: switch start ballast casings may reach high
temperatures in normal use and may damage standard insulation cables.
Where supply cables run adjacent to choke, use cable rated at not less
than 150 deg C, or alternatively use heat resistant sleeving".


150 is way too high for normal PVC T&E. Could you drill a better placed
hole for the cable to enter the fitting?
Otherwise there is a high temp cable that is used to connect to immersion
heaters and other hot things. You won't want a whole reel i'm sure but the
sheds will sell this by the metre. cable code is 3093Y screwfix 14170
(1mm^2) as an example.


Thanks for this Bob. Looks like I'm going to need a new hole (in
response to Chris's reply; there's definitely only one appropriate
hole for cable entry)

Just checked the Screwfix ref above, but it's only rated to 85 deg!

Thanks
David

Wheelbarrowbob September 1st 03 11:10 AM

Fluorescent lights - heat rating of cable?
 
use a short run of fire proof fp200 in side the tube, you should be able to buy
this by the meter and the rating should be above 150 deg

Christian McArdle September 1st 03 02:35 PM

Fluorescent lights - heat rating of cable?
 
Just checked the Screwfix ref above, but it's only rated to 85 deg!

But first make sure it didn't say 150F instead of 150C.

Christian.



BigWallop September 1st 03 07:36 PM

Fluorescent lights - heat rating of cable?
 

"David" wrote in message
om...
I'm currently installing some fluorescent tubes. The fitting
instructions state:
"Important notice: switch start ballast casings may reach high
temperatures in normal use and may damage standard insulation cables.
Where supply cables run adjacent to choke, use cable rated at not less
than 150 deg C, or alternatively use heat resistant sleeving".

Now, the cable access holes for the fitting are cleverly positioned so
that it's impossible to wire it up *without* running cable immediately
past the start ballast casing (this presumably refers to the chunky
metal PSU-like device inside the fitting??). So my query is, do I
need to worry about this, or is my normal 1.5mm2 lighting cable up to
the task? It doesn't have any temperature rating on the reel or the
cable; is 150 deg a high temp for cable? If I need this sleeving, is
it readily available? (makes you wonder why the mfr couldn't include
some with the fitting!?)

Thanks
David


The ballast is the heavy box thing inside the fitting, the box thing that
the actual lamp holder ends are connected to. It should have writing on it
with all the ratings and voltages. It is this box that gets very hot and
you should avoid putting your PVC Cable near it. If you keep this in mind
then you'll be OK.



Andy Wade September 2nd 03 12:20 AM

Fluorescent lights - heat rating of cable?
 
Wheelbarrowbob wrote in message
...

use a short run of fire proof fp200 in side the tube, you should be
able to buy this by the meter and the rating should be above 150 deg


FP200 is only rated for use up to 70°C in continuous service.
--
Andy



Wheelbarrowbob September 2nd 03 09:00 PM

Fluorescent lights - heat rating of cable?
 
thank you andy, didnt know that, think the original poster should invest in
some modern fittings


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