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Andy wrote:
I was in my local newsagent in London and saw he had a card of button
cells behind the till which he was selling at £2.99 each.

I recognised the card of cells as one which I can get from my local
pound shop for £1. It contains about 16 cells.

Considering that the pound shop makes a profit then it will already have
raised the price from something like 50p.

I can't say exactly what the mark up is here for the newsagent as he may
get left with oddment batteries that he can't sell but he makes a markup
of about £2.50 on 50p (500%) if he sold just one battery!

His total markup is in the thousands of percent.

Has anyone seen a bigger markup than that?
Sure.

Bodyshop.

Less than a cent of rotted vegetable matter in a quid of packaging sold
for £20.

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Andy wrote:
I was in my local newsagent in London and saw he had a card of button
cells behind the till which he was selling at £2.99 each.

I recognised the card of cells as one which I can get from my local
pound shop for £1. It contains about 16 cells.

Considering that the pound shop makes a profit then it will already have
raised the price from something like 50p.

I can't say exactly what the mark up is here for the newsagent as he may
get left with oddment batteries that he can't sell but he makes a markup
of about £2.50 on 50p (500%) if he sold just one battery!

His total markup is in the thousands of percent.

Has anyone seen a bigger markup than that?

I doubt he's rolling in cash with the units he's shifting.

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The message
from "Dr Zoidberg" contains these words:

The manufacturers make a pretty large profit on making them for a few pence
and selling them to the retailers.

Which subsidises the £30 printers. It's the razor blade model of
marketing except that the more expensive printers don't have
commensurably cheaper cartridges.

--
Skipweasel
Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.

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"Guy King" wrote in message
...
The message
from John Rumm contains these words:

Has anyone seen a bigger markup than that?

Ever looked at the price of a USB lead in PC world?

Though to be fair, they do actually work. The AB I bought from
Poundland the other day didn't. But then so did the one I bought from
the market for £1.50 which is about 1/10th of PCW's price.

Rip off!
They cost less than 15p.

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Dr Zoidberg wrote:

Tandy used to sell speaker cable at £2.99 which had a store cost of about 6p
a metre which wasn't bad margin at all.

There still is a market for "hifi" accessories which are sold for a
small fortune but cost peanuts to manufacture. Coloured pens and foil,
mains filters, etc.,... Whilst there are fools prepared to buy such
stuff (who deserve to have their money taken off them), I say good luck
to the enterpising sellers.

MBQ

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On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 19:15:49 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:

"nightjar

If it was, indeed the same product, it will have been bought from somewhere
that specialises in bankrupt and surplus stock sales, so the selling price
is no indication of the original trade sale price. However, pound shops also
sell remanufactured button cells, often in packs that look a lot like
manufacturers' original packs, which do not have the life of new cells.

Colin Bignell


Where in hell would you find anyone who is stupid enough to
remanufacture lithium cells? They are cheap, made on automated machines
and likely untouched by human hands until installed into your toys.
Short life is caused by one of two things. They have been in stock for
too long, or they were crap when they were made in some Chinese or third
world factory.


I've come across these quite recently. The ones I saw were on a card
about 10" square and held about 50 cells of about 6 or so different
sizes, all for GBP 1.

The provenance of these cells bothers me. I don't know about opening
them and remanufacturing them (I am talking the tiny ones), one
wonders whether they ever had any active ingredients in there at all.

I did once buy some AA cells dirt cheap from a barrow boy outside
Farringdon tube station in London, only to find that every single one
was dead as a dodo. That was enough for me.

The shear waste involved in producing this unuseable crap and shipping
it from China is a crime against our childrens future, they will curse
us for it.

DG

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I can't say exactly what the mark up is here for the newsagent
as he may get left with oddment batteries that he can't sell
but he makes a markup of about £2.50 on 50p (500%) if he sold
just one battery!

His total markup is in the thousands of percent.

Thousands of percent is a bit over-reactive; it's a few quid. You can't
really expect someone to make a living charging just a few pence extra.

The only real bad thing about it is that the batteries on these kinds of
packs are normally all rubbish anyway...


--
Lordy.UK

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"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message
...
....
Where in hell would you find anyone who is stupid enough to
remanufacture lithium cells?

China.

Colin Bignell

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"nightjar

"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message
...
...
Where in hell would you find anyone who is stupid enough to
remanufacture lithium cells?

China.

Colin Bignell

You really believe that they are "remanufactured"? What a moron. :(

The crimped metal case is one of the most expensive parts of the cell
and it can't be uncrimped without obvious damage. It would cost a lot
more to open the case, chemically clean it and restuff it than to
manufacture another cell.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

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Dr Zoidberg wrote:

And before anyone asks , yes I have reported people to the police when I
know they are ****ed and planning to drive home (and I know what car they
are driving)


Was standing outside the pub the other week at closing time when the guy
in front was debating to his mate whether or not to drive home in his
van (if he hadn't been drinking alcohol then I highly doubt he'd be
discussing this). From what I could make out, he decided to take the van.

I would have shopped him but I've seen him before in the same pub and it
would have been obvious who it was, as me and my mate were the only
people in earshot.

Not an easy decision to make, although if I'd seen a policeman in the
street while I was walking home I might have changed my mind. Feel a bit
bad about it now, though.

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Derek ^ wrote:

The shear waste involved in producing this unuseable crap and shipping
it from China is a crime against our childrens future, they will curse
us for it.

Totally. The absolute least that could be done is for battery recycling
banks to be installed around the country, like they do in other European
countries. I do not know of any place to recycle convenional (AA, AAA
etc.) batteries, but my local "waste management centre" or whatever it's
called has a facility for recycling car batteries. Better than nothing,
I suppose.

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Guy King wrote:

Ever looked at the price of a USB lead in PC world?


Though to be fair, they do actually work. The AB I bought from
Poundland the other day didn't. But then so did the one I bought from
the market for ï½£1.50 which is about 1/10th of PCW's price.

Yeahbut, I was commenting on the fact that the *same* branded leads cost
under 50p trade!


--
Cheers,

John.

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steeler wrote:

Causes problems when they are trying to promote a designated driver scheme
though.

Wow, you guys sit around debating the price of orange juice and who is the
designated driver? You carefully watch other patrons to see if they are
inebriated enough not to drive and report them if they attempt to get into
a vehicle?

I WANNA PARTY WITH YOU GUYS! ROCK ON!

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In message , Anton
Gijsen writes
Derek ^ wrote:

The shear waste involved in producing this unuseable crap and shipping
it from China is a crime against our childrens future, they will curse
us for it.

Totally. The absolute least that could be done is for battery recycling
banks to be installed around the country, like they do in other
European countries. I do not know of any place to recycle convenional
(AA, AAA etc.) batteries, but my local "waste management centre" or
whatever it's called has a facility for recycling car batteries. Better
than nothing, I suppose.

You can recycle batteries at Ikea - don't drive there though to
specifically just to recycle the batteries as I suspect that will
outweigh any advantages. Given that there are very limited places to
recycle batteries it does make a mockery of warnings on batteries not to
depose of them in a bin and on local council literature saying the same
thing (where they do not provide any readily accessible facilities).

--
Paul G
Typing from Barking

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Anton Gijsen wrote:
Totally. The absolute least that could be done is for battery recycling
banks to be installed around the country, like they do in other European
countries. I do not know of any place to recycle convenional (AA, AAA
etc.) batteries, but my local "waste management centre" or whatever it's
called has a facility for recycling car batteries. Better than nothing,
I suppose.

Our has one for domestic batteries (all types of primary & secondary
cells), right next to the car batteries.

MBQ

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"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message
...
"nightjar

"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message
...
...
Where in hell would you find anyone who is stupid enough to
remanufacture lithium cells?

China.

Colin Bignell

You really believe that they are "remanufactured"?

I deal with a major recycling company, although not in batteries, and I am
assured that they are.

Colin Bignell

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The message
from Paul G contains these words:

You can recycle batteries at Ikea - don't drive there though to
specifically just to recycle the batteries as I suspect that will
outweigh any advantages. Given that there are very limited places to
recycle batteries it does make a mockery of warnings on batteries not to
depose of them in a bin and on local council literature saying the same
thing (where they do not provide any readily accessible facilities).

IIRC some councils do provide for battery recycling from their doorstep
collections.

--
Skipweasel
Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.

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Guy King typed


The message
from Paul G contains these words:

You can recycle batteries at Ikea - don't drive there though to
specifically just to recycle the batteries as I suspect that will
outweigh any advantages. Given that there are very limited places to
recycle batteries it does make a mockery of warnings on batteries not to
depose of them in a bin and on local council literature saying the same
thing (where they do not provide any readily accessible facilities).

IIRC some councils do provide for battery recycling from their doorstep
collections.

Brent, my London Borough, does.

--
Helen D. Vecht:
Edgware.

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Owain wrote:
Mindwipe wrote:
garage i worked at (main dealer) used to buy bags of cable ties at £6
for a bag of 6000 ties
they were booked out at £1 each (when issued to jobs)
thats £6000 a bag therefore £5994 profit

If they were renamed "conductor restraining assemblies, NHS Spec" they'd
be a lot more than a quid each ...

Owain


The quid covers the time taken to get one from stores, wrap it round the
cable, pull it tight and clip the ends off.

It avoids having 'labour bills' at £60 an hour..instead the parts are
marked up instead.

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nightjar nightjar@ wrote:
"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message
...
"nightjar
"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message
...
...
Where in hell would you find anyone who is stupid enough to
remanufacture lithium cells?
China.

Colin Bignell
You really believe that they are "remanufactured"?

I deal with a major recycling company, although not in batteries, and I am
assured that they are.


Laed acid yes, silver whatever, yes, mercury wahetever, yes..Lithium?
Not really.

Colin Bignell

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Andy wrote:
I was in my local newsagent in London and saw he had a card of button
cells behind the till which he was selling at £2.99 each.

I recognised the card of cells as one which I can get from my local
pound shop for £1. It contains about 16 cells.

Considering that the pound shop makes a profit then it will already
have raised the price from something like 50p.

I can't say exactly what the mark up is here for the newsagent as he
may get left with oddment batteries that he can't sell but he makes a
markup of about £2.50 on 50p (500%) if he sold just one battery!

His total markup is in the thousands of percent.

Has anyone seen a bigger markup than that?

I think you'll find his profits come from kids sweets ie something that
sells for 2p and he sells for 3p so say you have 250 MoJo's in a box thats
5GBP and 2.50GBP profit
add that to all the other sweets and total it up at the end of the weeks
that some profit.

I know this because I used to own 2 mobile shops. :-)
--
Sir Benjamin Middlethwaite

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In article ,
dennis@home wrote:
I can drink pint for pint Pepsi Max with a beer drinker.
And I don't get drunk and smash the place up either.

God knows what your blood pressure is like with all that caffeine. ;-)

--
*Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

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The message
from The Natural Philosopher contains these words:

It avoids having 'labour bills' at £60 an hour..instead the parts are
marked up instead.

Avoids? You've not had a car serviced in the Home Counties recently, have you!

--
Skipweasel
Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.

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In article ,
Anton Gijsen wrote:
Totally. The absolute least that could be done is for battery recycling
banks to be installed around the country, like they do in other European
countries. I do not know of any place to recycle convenional (AA, AAA
etc.) batteries,

I don't think they are recycled but disposed of 'safely' whatever that
means.

but my local "waste management centre" or whatever it's
called has a facility for recycling car batteries. Better than nothing,
I suppose.

Car batteries contain lots of expensive lead and are worth re-cycling.

--
*A cubicle is just a padded cell without a door.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

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snod wrote:
On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 18:22:42 +0100, "Dr Zoidberg"
wrote:


And before anyone asks , yes I have reported people to the police
when I know they are ****ed and planning to drive home (and I know
what car they are driving)

Once a copper always a copper eh Alex ;-)

Nope , I'd have quite happily reported them before I joined the police.
It was having that sort of attitude to things that made me want to give it a
go.
--
Alex

Piece by piece the penguins have taken my sanity
www.drzoidberg.co.uk www.ebayfaq.co.uk

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dennis@home wrote:
I can drink pint for pint Pepsi Max with a beer drinker.

I can't think why you'd want to. Water is much nicer,
and cheaper.

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"Madge O'Reene" wrote in message
ups.com...
Soft drinks in pubs and night clubs - they buy the stuff in bulk as
concentrate and mix it with carbonated water on site. A £2.50 glass is
250ml and typically costs around 5p. Just as with the shop, you're
paying for the convenience.

....paying for the convenience - whether or not you use it.

--
DB.

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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
dennis@home wrote:
I can drink pint for pint Pepsi Max with a beer drinker.
And I don't get drunk and smash the place up either.

God knows what your blood pressure is like with all that caffeine. ;-)

The Istin takes care of that. 8-)

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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:

*Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot.


Too late! Someone already did, and he's running loose on another
usenet newsgroup. :(


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

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"nightjar

I deal with a major recycling company, although not in batteries, and I am
assured that they are.

Colin Bignell



Recycling is not equal to remanufacturing.

The county where I live in recycles computers. The collect them twice
a year and send tractor trailer loads of them to a prison to be parted
out for the various metals. Nothing working comes out of the program.

I remanufacture them by replacing any defective parts and correcting
any software problems, then they are given to the disabled in my area
who need a computer, but can't afford to buy one. What is left over is
then recycled. The county gets the sheet metal, I sell the aluminum,
and the scrap PC boards are sent to a county program that teaches people
to solder to practice solder rework. I am still looking for someone to
take the plastic from the cases and old keyboards.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

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"Simon Scott" wrote in message
...
steeler wrote:

Causes problems when they are trying to promote a designated driver
scheme
though.

Wow, you guys sit around debating the price of orange juice and who is the
designated driver? You carefully watch other patrons to see if they are
inebriated enough not to drive and report them if they attempt to get into
a vehicle?

I WANNA PARTY WITH YOU GUYS! ROCK ON!


err no, I pay for a taxi. Although if someone does go out with us and they
agree to be the driver we pay for their soft drinks - the ones that can cost
twice as much as the alcohol.

You should try this ... if you ever find any friends.

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On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 18:52:17 GMT, "Rob Walker"
wrote:


"Madge O'Reene" wrote in message
oups.com...
Soft drinks in pubs and night clubs - they buy the stuff in bulk as
concentrate and mix it with carbonated water on site. A £2.50 glass is
250ml and typically costs around 5p. Just as with the shop, you're
paying for the convenience.

yikes what pubs charge £2.50 for a coke??
They wouldn't dare charge that up 'ere int' north.... In fact I don't even
pay that for a pint :-)


I'm in the north (Tyneside) and most bars round here charge more for
Coke than they do for lager. I've stopped buying the draught Coke as
it's bloody horrible stuff.

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I was thinking the other day about the markup they must make on that
"spray-on mud" stuff they sell to ****head 4x4 drivers.

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"Anton Gijsen" wrote in
message ...
I was thinking the other day about the markup they must make on that
"spray-on mud" stuff they sell to ****head 4x4 drivers.

This is a wind up surely?

I'll get my coat!!

John

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John wrote:
"Anton Gijsen" wrote in
message ...
I was thinking the other day about the markup they must make on that
"spray-on mud" stuff they sell to ****head 4x4 drivers.

This is a wind up surely?

I wish it was.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/st...506019,00.html

I'll get my coat!!

I'll open the door.

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John wrote:
"Anton Gijsen" wrote in
message ...
I was thinking the other day about the markup they must make on that
"spray-on mud" stuff they sell to ****head 4x4 drivers.

This is a wind up surely?

Oh, I forgot to add, IIRC it costs about £5-6 a can.

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John wrote:
"Anton Gijsen" wrote
in message
...
I was thinking the other day about the markup they must make on that
"spray-on mud" stuff they sell to ****head 4x4 drivers.

This is a wind up surely?

I'll get my coat!!

John

Thats what freeplay marketing said to Trevor Baylis.

--
Sir Benjamin Middlethwaite

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Anton Gijsen wrote:

Oh, I forgot to add, IIRC it costs about £5-6 a can.

Oh dear, If I'd have actually read the article I linked to I'd know it
was a massive £7.95 a bottle!

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"Anton Gijsen" wrote in
message ...
John wrote:
"Anton Gijsen" wrote in
message ...
I was thinking the other day about the markup they must make on that
"spray-on mud" stuff they sell to ****head 4x4 drivers.

This is a wind up surely?

I wish it was.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/st...506019,00.html

I'll get my coat!!

I'll open the door.

Brilliant!!! I have just sent that link to my boss who drives one of these
f*****g things and NEVER takes it anywhere near the mud. We once went to
one of these 'off roader' experiences as an office day out and you could use
your own vehicle if you wanted to or use one of theirs for a higher
admission fee. He wouldn't even take it onto the property due to the drive
being VERY muddy and chose to leave it in the pub car park nearby as he
"had only just washed it yesterday and didn't want it to get dirty! A quick
"we're off to the toilet and for a fag" at the lunchtime break and an
obliging landlord with buckets soon sorted that out for him though! His
face was worth a thousand words, I think he nearly said them all.

Cheers

John

P.S. I am now going to find the company web site.