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Running SWA with other cables?
On a related topic, John Rumm wrote: There are also requirements for segregation of high and low voltage circuits (or provision of adequate earthed screening. See 528-01-01, and 02 Is SWA cable considered "adequate earthed screening" in this context? I'd appreciate comments on a plan to run an SWA mains cable to an outbuilding, along with several other cables, using a broad trough covered by 600x600 flagstones to make a path. The cables would simply be laid in the open trough, on a bed of pea gravel to prevent stone cuts, running the SWA along one side and keeping all the other cables as far away as possible. Then the flagstones would bridge over the whole lot, resting on two parallel runs of block edging (heavy load bearing is not a problem in this particular location). Hopefully the SWA itself would be deemed to meet the requirement for "earthed screening". In addition there will typically be at least 1ft of physical separation plus four layers of insulation between mains and signal conductors. Conventional deep burial of the SWA is not a practical option here, because we're on rock - even the proposed shallow trough will be very hard work. Overhead conduit is not an option either. The flagstones would seem to meet the requirement to prevent anyone from accidentally digging into the SWA, at least as well as deep burial could. All in all, I think this method would be more than adequate in technical terms, but I'd very much appreciate comments from the regulatory experts. -- Ian White |
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Hopefully the SWA itself would be deemed to meet the requirement for
"earthed screening". In addition there will typically be at least 1ft of physical separation plus four layers of insulation between mains and signal conductors. When you say "high voltage", are you sure you mean that? 230V mains electricity counts as "low voltage". What are the other cables? If they are comms or suchlike, then they are likely to be "extra low voltage". This requires separation either by the provision of physical separation (5cm), running through a separate conduit channel or run through cables insulated to the same spec as the low voltage cables. Note that direct buried cables are likely to need such insulation anyway. It is likely that your system would comply using all 3 methods, let alone 1. Conventional deep burial of the SWA is not a practical option here, because we're on rock - even the proposed shallow trough will be very hard work. Overhead conduit is not an option either. Could you surface mount on a wall? Christian. |
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Running SWA with other cables?
If SWA cable is connected properly at both ends earthing is
automatically bonded. SWA can be run in a trough sunk on a bed of sand. Any other cabling must be run in conduit, plastic is ok. this can then be laid alongside the SWA. |
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Christian McArdle wrote:
Conventional deep burial of the SWA is not a practical option here, because we're on rock - even the proposed shallow trough will be very hard work. Overhead conduit is not an option either. Could you surface mount on a wall? Thanks for thinking of that... but again, it isn't an option here. -- Ian White |
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Running SWA with other cables?
"Ian White" wrote in message ... On a related topic, John Rumm wrote: There are also requirements for segregation of high and low voltage circuits (or provision of adequate earthed screening. See 528-01-01, and 02 Is SWA cable considered "adequate earthed screening" in this context? I'd appreciate comments on a plan to run an SWA mains cable to an outbuilding, along with several other cables, using a broad trough covered by 600x600 flagstones to make a path. The cables would simply be laid in the open trough, on a bed of pea gravel to prevent stone cuts, running the SWA along one side and keeping all the other cables as far away as possible. Then the flagstones would bridge over the whole lot, resting on two parallel runs of block edging (heavy load bearing is not a problem in this particular location). Hopefully the SWA itself would be deemed to meet the requirement for "earthed screening". In addition there will typically be at least 1ft of physical separation plus four layers of insulation between mains and signal conductors. Conventional deep burial of the SWA is not a practical option here, because we're on rock - even the proposed shallow trough will be very hard work. Overhead conduit is not an option either. The flagstones would seem to meet the requirement to prevent anyone from accidentally digging into the SWA, at least as well as deep burial could. All in all, I think this method would be more than adequate in technical terms, but I'd very much appreciate comments from the regulatory experts. -- Ian White Segragation doesn't seem to be an issue here since there will be EMC protection due to the cable armour. I am assuming the highest voltage is LV i.e. 230 Volts. If there is no option to run the cable on the surface, clipped to a substantial fence or wall, it would be preferable to use an angle grinder or jack hammer, (hired if necessary), to cut a channel in the rock as deep and as wide as possible. Sifted soil or sand, at least 50mm compacted thickness, is used as a bedding; both below and as a top cover to the cable, pebbles are certainly not to be used for this purpose. In addition a warning tape, as available from electrical wholesalers, should be laid on top of the cable along its total length, under your flag stones. For record purposes, a layout plan should be made, marking the route of the cable as accurately as possible; a copy of this should be left at the DB. Route markers should be considered at the start and end of the cable run, these can simply be painted arrows on a fence or wall. There is no mention of the type of supply that this installation applies to, is it TT, TN-C-S or TN-S? This has a bearing on what is possible with the bonding of the cable armouring, the selection of materials and methods of installation. Where is the RCD installed, at the cable start or end location? This work probably requires notification to the LBA, unless you are in Scotland. Jaymack |
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