I need to purchase a electric scale inhibitor.

They seem to range in price, from £35 at toolstation to over £75 for
those advertised on TV.

I can only assume they have different power outputs as a reason for the
price differences.

Can anyone recomend a fair price unit that will work. I'd rather spend
money on one that works that on a cheap ones that does sweet FA.

On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 04:47:26 -0800, wrote:

I need to purchase a electric scale inhibitor.

They seem to range in price, from £35 at toolstation to over £75 for
those advertised on TV.

I can only assume they have different power outputs as a reason for the
price differences.

The difference in price depends on the type of snake they use for the oil :-)

Can anyone recomend a fair price unit that will work. I'd rather spend
money on one that works that on a cheap ones that does sweet FA.

£45 'Permutit' phosphor dosing from B&Q, and clean any salt deposists
off the adapter connector when you change the cartridge.

"John Stumbles" wrote in message
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On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 04:47:26 -0800, wrote:

I need to purchase a electric scale inhibitor.

They seem to range in price, from £35 at toolstation to over £75 for
those advertised on TV.

I can only assume they have different power outputs as a reason for the
price differences.

The difference in price depends on the type of snake they use for the oil
:-)

Can anyone recomend a fair price unit that will work. I'd rather spend
money on one that works that on a cheap ones that does sweet FA.

£45 'Permutit' phosphor dosing from B&Q, and clean any salt deposists
off the adapter connector when you change the cartridge.

And us a paper clip to poke out the venturi holes too.

wrote:
I need to purchase a electric scale inhibitor.

Don't


They seem to range in price, from £35 at toolstation to over £75 for
those advertised on TV.

I can only assume they have different power outputs as a reason for the
price differences.

More a case of what they they think they can sell them for.


Can anyone recomend a fair price unit that will work.

No.

I'd rather spend
money on one that works that on a cheap ones that does sweet FA.

In that case buy something that does the job properly.

MBQ

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I need to purchase a electric scale inhibitor.

They seem to range in price, from £35 at toolstation to over £75 for
those advertised on TV.

I can only assume they have different power outputs as a reason for the
price differences.

Can anyone recomend a fair price unit that will work. I'd rather spend
money on one that works that on a cheap ones that does sweet FA.


Scalewatcher has a good reputation.

wrote:
I need to purchase a electric scale inhibitor.

No, you really don't.


They seem to range in price, from £35 at toolstation to over £75 for
those advertised on TV.

I can only assume they have different power outputs as a reason for the
price differences.

You can assume whatever you want, but it is incorrect.


Can anyone recomend a fair price unit that will work. I'd rather spend
money on one that works that on a cheap ones that does sweet FA.

They don't work.


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Grunff

"Grunff" wrote in message
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wrote:
I need to purchase a electric scale inhibitor.

No, you really don't.

He does. He said so.

On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 13:22:33 +0000, Grunff wrote:

They don't work.

They *possibly* work. Limited research has been done and they work in
some circumstances although no-one is quite sure why.

sponix

On 17 Mar 2006 04:47:26 -0800, "
wrote:

I need to purchase a electric scale inhibitor.

I suggest you don't.

They seem to range in price, from £35 at toolstation to over £75 for
those advertised on TV.

I can only assume they have different power outputs as a reason for the
price differences.

They have various, mainly cosmetic, differences and varying wildly
inaccurate descriptions of how they are supposed to work. None of
these affect their complete lack of effectiveness.

Can anyone recomend a fair price unit that will work.

Not really as none of them work. If you really want to convince
yourself buy the cheapest which doesn't require installation and
comes with a 12 month "money back" guarantee. Get it from a major
retailer - somewhere like Homebase - and get it in writing that you
can have a full refund when you find it is useless. Make a careful
note of the convoluted terms of the guarantee and mark on the
calendar when you must return it. The marketing of these devices
relies upon people forgetting to claim their money back months after
buying them and finding they don't work.

--
Peter Parry.
http://www.wpp.ltd.uk/

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "
saying something like:

I need to purchase a electric scale inhibitor.

They seem to range in price, from £35 at toolstation to over £75 for
those advertised on TV.

I can only assume they have different power outputs as a reason for the
price differences.

Can anyone recomend a fair price unit that will work. I'd rather spend
money on one that works that on a cheap ones that does sweet FA.

Give me 75 quid and I'll perform a service for you which will do as much
to keep your pipes scale-free as one of those things.

The service? Oh, that consists of doing absolutely **** all.
--

Dave

On 17 Mar 2006 04:47:26 -0800, "
wrote:

I need to purchase a electric scale inhibitor.

No you don't.


They seem to range in price, from £35 at toolstation to over £75 for
those advertised on TV.

I'll do you a really effective one for £80. Would you like my Paypal
account details?


I can only assume they have different power outputs as a reason for the
price differences.

It's purely determined by what the marketers of them think that the
intended audience will pay.

One other tactic is to offer a money back guarantee and to price them
at a point where most people won't bother to return them.



Can anyone recomend a fair price unit that will work. I'd rather spend
money on one that works that on a cheap ones that does sweet FA.

They all do sweet FA, so it doesn't make any difference.

If you are trying to address scaling, then a phosphor dosing system
like a Combimate will do the job.

If you want to also soften the water and save on shampoos and
detergents, then you need an ion exchange water softener.


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..andy


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I need to purchase a electric scale inhibitor.

Why? What /genuine/ evidence do you have that they work?

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Skipweasel
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

Guy King wrote:
I need to purchase a electric scale inhibitor.

Why? What /genuine/ evidence do you have that they work?

While I agree that these devices don't work (my parents had one fitted
some years back), how do the manufacturers then get away with selling them?

Alex

"Alex" wrote in message
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Guy King wrote:
I need to purchase a electric scale inhibitor.

Why? What /genuine/ evidence do you have that they work?

While I agree that these devices don't work (my parents had one fitted
some years back), how do the manufacturers then get away with selling
them?

Many appliance makers recommend them. So for them not working. I have one
and it works.

On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 22:19:46 -0000, "Doctor Drivel"
wrote:


"Alex" wrote in message
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Guy King wrote:
I need to purchase a electric scale inhibitor.

Why? What /genuine/ evidence do you have that they work?

While I agree that these devices don't work (my parents had one fitted
some years back), how do the manufacturers then get away with selling
them?

Many appliance makers recommend them. So for them not working. I have one
and it works.


Ah..... so it depends on *who* you are.

Of course. So obvious.


--

..andy

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Andy Hall
saying something like:

Many appliance makers recommend them. So for them not working. I have one
and it works.


Ah..... so it depends on *who* you are.

Of course. So obvious.

His elephant scarer works too.
--

Dave

"Andy Hall" akak Matt wrote in message
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On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 22:19:46 -0000, "Doctor Drivel"
wrote:


"Alex" wrote in message
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Guy King wrote:
I need to purchase a electric scale inhibitor.

Why? What /genuine/ evidence do you have that they work?

While I agree that these devices don't work (my parents had one fitted
some years back), how do the manufacturers then get away with selling
them?

Many appliance makers recommend them. So for them not working. I have one
and it works.


Ah..... so it depends on *who* you are.

Matt, have you been at the sherry again?

The message
from Alex contains these words:

While I agree that these devices don't work (my parents had one fitted
some years back), how do the manufacturers then get away with selling them?

Because they invent spurious ********.

--
Skipweasel
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

Alex wrote:
Guy King wrote:
I need to purchase a electric scale inhibitor.

Why? What /genuine/ evidence do you have that they work?

While I agree that these devices don't work (my parents had one fitted
some years back), how do the manufacturers then get away with selling them?

Alex
How does the labour government get away with doing naff all useful?

Same principle.

You can fool enough of the people enough of the time..

I assumed they worked because my plumber installed a magnetic one
inline to the new boiler I brought. I thought it was the same
principle. Are you guys all saying that these don't work either ?

I guess the word inhibitor rather than preventor is key. It only helps
but does not eliminate.

I've seen demonstrations where water particles run a different way
after going through this type of system. I am trying to prevent water
marks on the shower chome and glass only.

wrote:
I assumed they worked because my plumber installed a magnetic one
inline to the new boiler I brought. I thought it was the same
principle.

It is the same principle - that idiots will buy any old crap regardless
of whether it works.


Are you guys all saying that these don't work either ?

Yes.


I guess the word inhibitor rather than preventor is key. It only helps
but does not eliminate.

No, it does *nothing*. The wording is irrelevant.


I've seen demonstrations where water particles run a different way
after going through this type of system. I am trying to prevent water
marks on the shower chome and glass only.

Ah, ok, in that case just BUY ONE! You've just demonstrated that you are
a target customer. Just go for it.


--
Grunff

On 21 Mar 2006 04:28:02 -0800, "
wrote:

I assumed they worked because my plumber installed a magnetic one
inline to the new boiler I brought. I thought it was the same
principle. Are you guys all saying that these don't work either ?

Completely useless.


I guess the word inhibitor rather than preventor is key. It only helps
but does not eliminate.

I've seen demonstrations where water particles run a different way
after going through this type of system. I am trying to prevent water
marks on the shower chome and glass only.

These will not do that.

The choices are phosphate dosing if you want to address scaling, or
ion exchange water softener if you also want to reduce detergent and
shampoo use.



--

..andy

On 21 Mar 2006 04:28:02 -0800, "
wrote:

I assumed they worked because my plumber installed a magnetic one
inline to the new boiler I brought.

They don't work either. Magnetic water conditioning does sometimes
work in one specific set of conditions - where the magnetic field is
very high and the water is continuously circulated through the
device. For this reason you will sometimes find them in large
industrial recirculation systems (such as heating units) but fitted
into the recirculating water path. Where the water passes through
only once as in domestic fitting they have no effect.

I thought it was the same principle.

Nothing like - the permanent magnet fittings do have a modicum of
rationality behind them and do work a bit albeit not in houses. The
electronic sort produce a truly feeble magnetic field and are pure
snake oil. The manufacturers make fanciful explanations of "excited
water" and "critical modulations" to sell them. They don't work at
all and there is no credible scientific theory to say why they ever
could.

Are you guys all saying that these don't work either ?

In a domestic setting - that is correct.

see
http://www.chem1.com/CQ/magscams.html
http://www.cranfield.ac.uk/sims/water/magnets/
http://www.csicop.org/si/9801/powell.html

I guess the word inhibitor rather than preventor is key. It only helps
but does not eliminate.

They don't do anything at all.

I've seen demonstrations where water particles run a different way
after going through this type of system.

I've seen demonstrations where rabbits were pulled out of top hats.
If I were to buy a top hat I doubt if it will give me an endless
supply of rabbits.

I am trying to prevent water marks on the shower chome and glass only.

You could try using Rain-X on them weekly and cleaning them after
each use. You could get an ion exchange water softener which would
reduce the need for the above. However, nothing will eliminate water
marks entirely. Even ion exchange softeners, which convert insoluble
calcium compounds to water soluble sodium compounds will mark if the
water is left to evaporate on the glass.

--
Peter Parry.
http://www.wpp.ltd.uk/

In article .com
wrote:
I assumed they worked because my plumber installed a magnetic one
inline to the new boiler I brought. I thought it was the same
principle. Are you guys all saying that these don't work either ?

Surely that's to keep ferrous particles out of the boiler/pump, and
nothing to do with limescale?