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freddyuk March 16th 06 10:24 AM

Hammer drill lost its hammer
 
I will probably get flamed here but here goes - i bought one of those Chinese SDS drills with rotostop and a kit of bits from France for euro 30. I was so impressed (for domestic use only) i bought another one on my next wine trip. A few months later they appeared in Srewfix etc. selling for about £40.00 without the bit kit.
One of mine has lost its "hammer" action and i was wondering if there was a way to repair it easily. It has not been used very much so worth repairing if i can. The other one has been used a lot for digging up concrete etc and has proved to be a real bargain for the price.

Anyone any ideas or experience?

Thanks

John Rumm March 16th 06 11:10 AM

Hammer drill lost its hammer
 
freddyuk wrote:

One of mine has lost its "hammer" action and i was wondering if there
was a way to repair it easily. It has not been used very much so worth


A mate of mine bought (well was given in fact) a JCB branded one. The
experiance was much the same - worked well enough for a while and then
lost hammer action. Shortly after it stripped it main drive gear and
lost rotation as well.

Your best bet would be to contact the store that sold it and see if
there is a possibility of a warrenty replacement. There is not usually
much chance of getting spares on these tools. Either that or decide that
30 euro was a fair price for the work it did, bin it and buy another.



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Tim Lamb March 16th 06 11:27 AM

Hammer drill lost its hammer
 
In message , freddyuk
writes

I will probably get flamed here but here goes - i bought one of those
Chinese SDS drills with rotostop and a kit of bits from France for euro
30. I was so impressed (for domestic use only) i bought another one on
my next wine trip. A few months later they appeared in Srewfix etc.
selling for about £40.00 without the bit kit.
One of mine has lost its "hammer" action and i was wondering if there
was a way to repair it easily. It has not been used very much so worth
repairing if i can. The other one has been used a lot for digging up
concrete etc and has proved to be a real bargain for the price.

Anyone any ideas or experience?


I have the reverse of your problem.
My Bosch drill has developed a slight hammer action on *drill only*.
Years of abuse with oversize drill bits may have moved the hammer cam
along the shaft such that it is in permanent contact. Yours seems to
have gone the other way:-)

I don't know how these parts are assembled but the hammer collar may
just be heat shrunk to the shaft. Minor tolerance variations/abuse
perhaps have allowed it to slide out of position?

The annoying thing about even slight hammer action is that it blunts
conventional metal cutting bits:-(

regards
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Tim Lamb

mrcheerful March 16th 06 11:54 AM

Hammer drill lost its hammer
 

"Tim Lamb" wrote in message
...
In message , freddyuk
writes

I will probably get flamed here but here goes - i bought one of those
Chinese SDS drills with rotostop and a kit of bits from France for euro
30. I was so impressed (for domestic use only) i bought another one on
my next wine trip. A few months later they appeared in Srewfix etc.
selling for about £40.00 without the bit kit.
One of mine has lost its "hammer" action and i was wondering if there
was a way to repair it easily. It has not been used very much so worth
repairing if i can. The other one has been used a lot for digging up
concrete etc and has proved to be a real bargain for the price.

Anyone any ideas or experience?


I have the reverse of your problem.
My Bosch drill has developed a slight hammer action on *drill only*. Years
of abuse with oversize drill bits may have moved the hammer cam along the
shaft such that it is in permanent contact. Yours seems to have gone the
other way:-)

I don't know how these parts are assembled but the hammer collar may just
be heat shrunk to the shaft. Minor tolerance variations/abuse perhaps have
allowed it to slide out of position?

The annoying thing about even slight hammer action is that it blunts
conventional metal cutting bits:-(

regards
--
Tim Lamb


I expect the op machine has a proper hammer action with a little piston.

strip it down and look, or buy an identical one and take your one back
(after a week or two)



Andy Hall March 16th 06 12:08 PM

Hammer drill lost its hammer
 
On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 11:54:32 GMT, "mrcheerful ."
wrote:


"Tim Lamb" wrote in message
...
In message , freddyuk
writes

I will probably get flamed here but here goes - i bought one of those
Chinese SDS drills with rotostop and a kit of bits from France for euro
30. I was so impressed (for domestic use only) i bought another one on
my next wine trip. A few months later they appeared in Srewfix etc.
selling for about £40.00 without the bit kit.
One of mine has lost its "hammer" action and i was wondering if there
was a way to repair it easily. It has not been used very much so worth
repairing if i can. The other one has been used a lot for digging up
concrete etc and has proved to be a real bargain for the price.

Anyone any ideas or experience?



I expect the op machine has a proper hammer action with a little piston.

strip it down and look, or buy an identical one and take your one back
(after a week or two)


So you're suggesting dishonesty?





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Chris Bacon March 16th 06 12:56 PM

Hammer drill lost its hammer
 
freddyuk wrote:
Anyone any ideas or experience?


If it'll be inside any guarantee period when you go back, get a refund.

If the guarantee's run out, take it to bits and see what's up. It'll
be interesting, if nothing else. You might even fix it.

If you CBA, bin it.

John Rumm March 16th 06 01:27 PM

Hammer drill lost its hammer
 
Tim Lamb wrote:

I don't know how these parts are assembled but the hammer collar may
just be heat shrunk to the shaft. Minor tolerance variations/abuse
perhaps have allowed it to slide out of position?


The OPs drill sounded like an SDS - hence no cam collar etc.

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Chris Bacon March 16th 06 03:15 PM

Hammer drill lost its hammer
 
John Rumm wrote:
Tim Lamb wrote:
I don't know how these parts are assembled but the hammer collar may
just be heat shrunk to the shaft. Minor tolerance variations/abuse
perhaps have allowed it to slide out of position?


The OPs drill sounded like an SDS - hence no cam collar etc.


It is - he said "i bought one of those Chinese SDS drills with
rotostop and a kit of bits"

[email protected] March 16th 06 03:33 PM

Hammer drill lost its hammer
 

Chris Bacon wrote:
freddyuk wrote:
Anyone any ideas or experience?


If it'll be inside any guarantee period when you go back, get a refund.


It's a long way to go for a 30 euro drill, unless they're also prepared
to refund the ferry/eurotunnel fare. I'd check in advance.

MBQ


Chris Bacon March 16th 06 04:16 PM

Hammer drill lost its hammer
 
manatbandq wrote:
Chris Bacon wrote:
freddyuk wrote:
Anyone any ideas or experience?

If it'll be inside any guarantee period when you go back, get a refund.


It's a long way to go for a 30 euro drill, unless they're also prepared
to refund the ferry/eurotunnel fare. I'd check in advance.


The OP mentioned he "bought another one on [his] next wine trip". He
might go regularly, unlike the rest of us who have to shell out mucho
dinero to the tax-man, abstrad that he is.

Phil L March 16th 06 05:09 PM

Hammer drill lost its hammer
 
freddyuk wrote:
I will probably get flamed here but here goes - i bought one of those
Chinese SDS drills with rotostop and a kit of bits from France for
euro
30. I was so impressed (for domestic use only) i bought another one on
my next wine trip. A few months later they appeared in Srewfix etc.
selling for about £40.00 without the bit kit.
One of mine has lost its "hammer" action and i was wondering if there
was a way to repair it easily. It has not been used very much so worth
repairing if i can. The other one has been used a lot for digging up
concrete etc and has proved to be a real bargain for the price.

Anyone any ideas or experience?

Thanks


Spray a load of WD40 down the chuck, very often the bearings that create the
hammering stick, also you shouldn't use them for just hammering or just
drilling, from time to time, swap them over and let each of them have a spin
AND a hammering session.



[email protected] March 16th 06 06:51 PM

Hammer drill lost its hammer
 

freddyuk wrote:
I will probably get flamed here but here goes - i bought one of those
Chinese SDS drills with rotostop and a kit of bits from France for euro
30. I was so impressed (for domestic use only) i bought another one on
my next wine trip. A few months later they appeared in Srewfix etc.
selling for about £40.00 without the bit kit.
One of mine has lost its "hammer" action and i was wondering if there
was a way to repair it easily. It has not been used very much so worth
repairing if i can. The other one has been used a lot for digging up
concrete etc and has proved to be a real bargain for the price.

Anyone any ideas or experience?

Thanks


Don't always look to Screwfix for power tools. Argos will do that
cheapo SDS drill with all the bits for £30, with a UK plug and local
warranty!

Might be just the switch that selects hammer action that is at fault.
Have you topped up the grease as well? I find when new you have to top
up the grease the most.

Or give up drinking and you'll be able to afford something better. ;-)


The3rd Earl Of Derby March 16th 06 06:55 PM

Hammer drill lost its hammer
 
wrote:
freddyuk wrote:
I will probably get flamed here but here goes - i bought one of those
Chinese SDS drills with rotostop and a kit of bits from France for
euro
30. I was so impressed (for domestic use only) i bought another one
on my next wine trip. A few months later they appeared in Srewfix
etc. selling for about £40.00 without the bit kit.
One of mine has lost its "hammer" action and i was wondering if there
was a way to repair it easily. It has not been used very much so
worth repairing if i can. The other one has been used a lot for
digging up concrete etc and has proved to be a real bargain for the
price.

Anyone any ideas or experience?

Thanks


Don't always look to Screwfix for power tools. Argos will do that
cheapo SDS drill with all the bits for £30, with a UK plug and local
warranty!

Might be just the switch that selects hammer action that is at fault.
Have you topped up the grease as well? I find when new you have to top
up the grease the most.

Or give up drinking and you'll be able to afford something better. ;-)


I don't think Argos do an SDS for £30?

Next!

--
Sir Benjamin Middlethwaite



Guy King March 16th 06 07:08 PM

Hammer drill lost its hammer
 
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Might be just the switch that selects hammer action that is at fault.
Have you topped up the grease as well? I find when new you have to top
up the grease the most.


I'd take it apart and see what's up.

Out of interest, does anyone know how the hammerstop works on these
little pneumatic drills?

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Skipweasel
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

[email protected] March 16th 06 07:15 PM

Hammer drill lost its hammer
 

The3rd Earl Of Derby wrote:
wrote:
freddyuk wrote:
I will probably get flamed here but here goes - i bought one of those
Chinese SDS drills with rotostop and a kit of bits from France for
euro
30. I was so impressed (for domestic use only) i bought another one
on my next wine trip. A few months later they appeared in Srewfix
etc. selling for about £40.00 without the bit kit.
One of mine has lost its "hammer" action and i was wondering if there
was a way to repair it easily. It has not been used very much so
worth repairing if i can. The other one has been used a lot for
digging up concrete etc and has proved to be a real bargain for the
price.

Anyone any ideas or experience?

Thanks


Don't always look to Screwfix for power tools. Argos will do that
cheapo SDS drill with all the bits for £30, with a UK plug and local
warranty!

Might be just the switch that selects hammer action that is at fault.
Have you topped up the grease as well? I find when new you have to top
up the grease the most.

Or give up drinking and you'll be able to afford something better. ;-)


I don't think Argos do an SDS for £30?

Next!

--
Sir Benjamin Middlethwaite


My mistake, it's £29.99 not £30.

http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Produc...er/7110247.htm


Chris Bacon March 16th 06 07:53 PM

Hammer drill lost its hammer
 
daddyfreddy wrote:
The3rd Earl Of Derby wrote:
daddyfreddy wrote:
freddyuk wrote:
I will probably get flamed here but here goes - i bought one of those
Chinese SDS drills with rotostop and a kit of bits from France for
euro 30.

Argos will do that cheapo SDS drill with all the bits for £30, with a
UK plug and local warranty!


I don't think Argos do an SDS for £30?


My mistake, it's £29.99 not £30.

http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Produc...er/7110247.htm


Pah, not as good as my £25 "Thursday Morning special" from Aldi,
with 11 bits+jawed chuck+grease+spare brushes that *still* hasn't
gone wrong, (so I haven't needed the free 3-year warranty)!

Andy Dingley March 16th 06 08:37 PM

Hammer drill lost its hammer
 
On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 19:08:27 GMT, Guy King
wrote:

Out of interest, does anyone know how the hammerstop works on these
little pneumatic drills?


On some of the cheap ones there isn't really a "hammer stop", there's
just a sliding block that wedges the drill bit in the forward position.
The hammer is still flying back and forth, but it doesn't contact the
drill bit any more. Even when not "hammering", these still have a lot of
vibration.


freddyuk March 17th 06 12:34 PM


A ha someone was listening!
I paid euro 30(not £'s) for a couple of cheap drills. One i used a lot and is still going the other is virtually unused and the hammer action has ceased.
I was interested to know if it was worth trying to mend it or just chuck it in the bin.
I don't know how the hammer action works.
If money was no object i would have a shed full of the top of the range tools which would never break but would laso never get a lifetimes abuse so if i see a drill for euro 30 i am going to give it a try?? Aldi have taken up this challenge but i dont have an Aldi locally. The French seem to get these low priced tools before we do and i love to avoid VAT to Gordon if i can.

It shouldn't need grease etc as its hardly used?

Guy King March 17th 06 07:17 PM

Hammer drill lost its hammer
 
The message
from freddyuk contains these words:

It shouldn't need grease etc as its hardly used?


They need greasing really frequently.

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