How seriously are female posters taken on this DIY forum?

In article ,
Janet Bale writes:
How seriously are female posters taken on this DIY forum?

For any poster, mail, female, or anon, it's based on the
quality of your posting history. We have had some expert
contributors in their fields who have been female, lime
plastering, water regulations, insect investations are
some that spring to mind. OTOH, most the posters who have
been mainly noise and no signal have been male.

--
Andrew Gabriel

The message
from Janet Bale contains these words:

How seriously are female posters taken on this DIY forum?

I should imagine that would depend on what they have to ask or tell.

Are you male or female? There's no way of telling [1] and why would we
care anyway?

Am I male or female[2]?

[1] You sign yourself Janet - which signifies bugger all. I use an email
address wtih a male sounding name - which likewise carries no import.

[2] Quiet at the back, those who've met me - there's at least two of you
in here.

--
Skipweasel
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

Janet Bale typed


How seriously are female posters taken on this DIY forum?

Depends what/how you post.

--
Helen D. Vecht:
Edgware.

How seriously are female posters taken on this DIY forum?

You'll get taken very seriously.

Now go and put the kettle on while the blokes get on with the DIY.

:-)

Janet Bale wrote:

How seriously are female posters taken on this DIY forum?

I'll take one thats not too badly tarnished if she like cleaning and
ironing.

Janet Bale wrote in message
...
How seriously are female posters taken on this DIY forum?

Very seriously. I mean it's not all about plumbing and plastering. Sometimes
we need advice on washing up and ironing too, or how to get those stubborn
rust stains out and then it's quite handy to have a couple of girlies
contributing
{ducks and runs for cover}
--
Dave Baker
www.pumaracing.co.uk


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Janet Bale wrote:
How seriously are female posters taken on this DIY forum?

Depends on how they behave, really... it's interesting that
a female psoter will attract far more replies than a bloke,
given the same Q. "DIYers" on the make... IMO it's all down
to the reasonableness of the question and any responses.
Vacuous questions and inane replies tend to be derided.

Andrew Gabriel wrote:
Janet Bale writes:
How seriously are female posters taken on this DIY forum?

For any poster, mail, female, or anon, it's based on the
quality of your posting history.

If no history, the reasonableness of the questions and general
behaviour... everyone has to start somehere!


We have had some expert
contributors in their fields who have been female, lime
plastering, water regulations, insect investations are
some that spring to mind. OTOH, most the posters who have
been mainly noise and no signal have been male.

Fortunately there are only, what, two female and four male
posters who fit this description. Um. Ratios not good.

BTW, I suspect this will run and run.

Guy King wrote:
I use an
email address wtih a male sounding name - which likewise carries no
import.

But Guy(ess) have heard you on Rajo 4 (talking about how to deal with
telephone cold calls)and you sounded ... --
This post contains no hidden meanings, no implications and certainly no
hidden agendas so it should be taken at face value. The wrong words
may be used this is due to my limitations with the English language .

"Andrew Gabriel" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Janet Bale writes:
How seriously are female posters taken on this DIY forum?

For any poster, mail, female, or anon, it's based on the
quality of your posting history. We have had some expert
contributors in their fields who have been female, lime
plastering, water regulations, insect investations are
some that spring to mind. OTOH, most the posters who have
been mainly noise and no signal have been male.

I agree. You to figure out who are the senile and just plain stupid people.
Some have very poor comprehension.

Chris Bacon wrote:
Janet Bale wrote:
How seriously are female posters taken on this DIY forum?

Depends on how they behave, really... it's interesting that
a female psoter will attract far more replies than a bloke,
given the same Q.

Is this a kind if sexism? Are we more tolerant of a female asking how
to complete a task that we consider to be simple than we would if a male
asked?

"DIYers" on the make... IMO it's all down
to the reasonableness of the question and any responses.
Vacuous questions and inane replies tend to be derided.

On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 09:45:40 -0000, "Doctor Drivel"
wrote:


"Andrew Gabriel" wrote in message
.. .
In article ,
Janet Bale writes:
How seriously are female posters taken on this DIY forum?

For any poster, mail, female, or anon, it's based on the
quality of your posting history. We have had some expert
contributors in their fields who have been female, lime
plastering, water regulations, insect investations are
some that spring to mind. OTOH, most the posters who have
been mainly noise and no signal have been male.

I agree. You to figure out who are the senile and just plain stupid people.
Some have very poor comprehension.

While others can't even string a sentence together.


--

..andy

Janet Bale wrote:
How seriously are female posters taken on this DIY forum?


What kind of a silly question is that?


--
Grunff

Janet Bale wrote:
How seriously are female posters taken on this DIY forum?

Depends on the quality of their posts.

On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 09:17:04 +0000, Chris Bacon wrote:


We have had some expert
contributors in their fields who have been female, lime plastering,
water regulations, insect investations are some that spring to mind.
OTOH, most the posters who have been mainly noise and no signal have
been male.

Fortunately there are only, what, two female and four male posters who fit
this description. Um. Ratios not good.


Out of interest, who is the other female one ?

--

Phil Young

"Andy Hall" aka Matt wrote in message
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On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 09:45:40 -0000, "Doctor Drivel"
wrote:


"Andrew Gabriel" wrote in message
. ..
In article ,
Janet Bale writes:
How seriously are female posters taken on this DIY forum?

For any poster, mail, female, or anon, it's based on the
quality of your posting history. We have had some expert
contributors in their fields who have been female, lime
plastering, water regulations, insect investations are
some that spring to mind. OTOH, most the posters who have
been mainly noise and no signal have been male.

I agree. You to figure out who are the senile and just plain stupid
people.
Some have very poor comprehension.

While others can't even string a sentence together.

That is so Matt. ..and some adopt multiple aliases too.

Andrew Gabriel wrote:
In article ,
Janet Bale writes:
How seriously are female posters taken on this DIY forum?

For any poster, mail, female, or anon, it's based on the
quality of your posting history. We have had some expert
contributors in their fields who have been female, lime
plastering, water regulations, insect investations are
some that spring to mind. OTOH, most the posters who have
been mainly noise and no signal have been male.

..... and how do you know what sex the poster is anyway? My name
doesn't indicate my sex.

--
Chris Green

On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 11:34:17 -0000, "Doctor Drivel"
wrote:


"Andy Hall" aka Matt wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 09:45:40 -0000, "Doctor Drivel"
wrote:


"Andrew Gabriel" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Janet Bale writes:
How seriously are female posters taken on this DIY forum?

For any poster, mail, female, or anon, it's based on the
quality of your posting history. We have had some expert
contributors in their fields who have been female, lime
plastering, water regulations, insect investations are
some that spring to mind. OTOH, most the posters who have
been mainly noise and no signal have been male.

I agree. You to figure out who are the senile and just plain stupid
people.
Some have very poor comprehension.

While others can't even string a sentence together.

That is so Matt. ..and some adopt multiple aliases too.


Mmm.. I think you've had about 5 so far, haven't you?

I've never had any.


--

..andy

"Andy Hall" aka Matt wrote in message
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On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 11:34:17 -0000, "Doctor Drivel"
wrote:


"Andy Hall" aka Matt wrote in message
. ..
On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 09:45:40 -0000, "Doctor Drivel"
wrote:


"Andrew Gabriel" wrote in message
k...
In article ,
Janet Bale writes:
How seriously are female posters taken on this DIY forum?

For any poster, mail, female, or anon, it's based on the
quality of your posting history. We have had some expert
contributors in their fields who have been female, lime
plastering, water regulations, insect investations are
some that spring to mind. OTOH, most the posters who have
been mainly noise and no signal have been male.

I agree. You to figure out who are the senile and just plain stupid
people.
Some have very poor comprehension.

While others can't even string a sentence together.

That is so Matt. ..and some adopt multiple aliases too.

Mmm.. I think you've had about 5 so far, haven't you?

Not all at the same time.

I've never had any.

Matt? Please.

wrote in message ...
Andrew Gabriel wrote:
In article ,
Janet Bale writes:
How seriously are female posters taken on this DIY forum?

For any poster, mail, female, or anon, it's based on the
quality of your posting history. We have had some expert
contributors in their fields who have been female, lime
plastering, water regulations, insect investations are
some that spring to mind. OTOH, most the posters who have
been mainly noise and no signal have been male.

.... and how do you know what sex the poster is anyway? My name
doesn't indicate my sex.

--
Chris Green

I must say I've sometimes wondered - I assume you're male because of your
manly bearing.

simper

Mary

"Janet Bale" wrote in message
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How seriously are female posters taken on this DIY forum?

Um. I don't always WANT to be taken seriously.

I'm all woman but a permanently deep ng would be very boring for anyone. I
don't know of such a group, even those which discuss terminal diseases have
a high proportion of levity.

Mary

On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 11:50:03 -0000, "Doctor Drivel"
wrote:



I agree. You to figure out who are the senile and just plain stupid
people.
Some have very poor comprehension.

While others can't even string a sentence together.

That is so Matt. ..and some adopt multiple aliases too.

Mmm.. I think you've had about 5 so far, haven't you?

Not all at the same time.

I'll give you that.


I've never had any.

Matt? Please.

That notion is in your head only.

--

..andy

Phil Young wrote:
Chris Bacon wrote:
[ AG wrote? ]
We have had some expert
contributors in their fields who have been female, lime plastering,
water regulations, insect investations are some that spring to mind.
OTOH, most the posters who have been mainly noise and no signal have
been male.

Fortunately there are only, what, two female and four male posters who fit
this description. Um. Ratios not good.

Out of interest, who is the other female one ?

The deraded o-a, occasional appearances only. I take it the
one which you allude to is Myra (sp!) ?

Andy Hall wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 11:50:03 -0000, "Doctor Drivel"
wrote:


I agree. You to figure out who are the senile and just plain stupid
people.
Some have very poor comprehension.
While others can't even string a sentence together.
That is so Matt. ..and some adopt multiple aliases too.
Mmm.. I think you've had about 5 so far, haven't you?
Not all at the same time.

I'll give you that.

I've never had any.
Matt? Please.

That notion is in your head only.


I think you and Drivel are one and the same and are just toying with the
rest of us

The message
from "Mary Fisher" contains these words:

Um. I don't always WANT to be taken seriously.

But that's got nothing to do with sex. Perhaps I should rephrase that.

--
Skipweasel
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

"Richard Conway" wrote in message
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Andy Hall aka Matt wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 11:50:03 -0000, "Doctor Drivel"
wrote:


I agree. You to figure out who are the senile and just plain stupid
people.
Some have very poor comprehension.
While others can't even string a sentence together.
That is so Matt. ..and some adopt multiple aliases too.
Mmm.. I think you've had about 5 so far, haven't you?
Not all at the same time.

I'll give you that.

I've never had any.
Matt? Please.

That notion is in your head only.

I think you and Drivel are one and the same and are just toying with the
rest of us

Russ, I find that insulting. :-(

On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 12:28:11 +0000, Richard Conway
wrote:

Andy Hall wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 11:50:03 -0000, "Doctor Drivel"
wrote:


I agree. You to figure out who are the senile and just plain stupid
people.
Some have very poor comprehension.
While others can't even string a sentence together.
That is so Matt. ..and some adopt multiple aliases too.
Mmm.. I think you've had about 5 so far, haven't you?
Not all at the same time.

I'll give you that.

I've never had any.
Matt? Please.

That notion is in your head only.


I think you and Drivel are one and the same and are just toying with the
rest of us

We could put around all sorts of rumours like that.



--

..andy

In article , Richard Conway
wrote:

Is this a kind if sexism? Are we more tolerant of a female asking how
to complete a task that we consider to be simple than we would if a male
asked?

Is it perhaps a case of "If I'm nice to you, will you be nice to me?" :-)

--
AJL Electronics (G6FGO) Ltd : Satellite and TV aerial systems
http://www.classicmicrocars.co.uk : http://www.ajlelectronics.co.uk

Andy Hall wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 12:28:11 +0000, Richard Conway
wrote:

Andy Hall wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 11:50:03 -0000, "Doctor Drivel"
wrote:


I agree. You to figure out who are the senile and just plain stupid
people.
Some have very poor comprehension.
While others can't even string a sentence together.
That is so Matt. ..and some adopt multiple aliases too.
Mmm.. I think you've had about 5 so far, haven't you?
Not all at the same time.
I'll give you that.

I've never had any.
Matt? Please.
That notion is in your head only.

I think you and Drivel are one and the same and are just toying with the
rest of us

We could put around all sorts of rumours like that.

Maybe there is only really two people who ever use this group - me and
all the yous

Richard Conway wrote:
Chris Bacon wrote:
Janet Bale wrote:
How seriously are female posters taken on this DIY forum?

I'm surprised that no one has so far mentioned that it's not a forum
it's a newsgroup. Perhaps because they thought they were talking to a
sensitive female? :-) Note the smiley, that *is* meant to be a joke.

Depends on how they behave, really... it's interesting that
a female psoter will attract far more replies than a bloke,
given the same Q.

Is this a kind if sexism? Are we more tolerant of a female asking how
to complete a task that we consider to be simple than we would if a
male asked?

Positive discrimination :-) Seriously, I think in general we/you are.
Not to me in particular but yes, I have noticed this in the past.

There are sometimes messages beginning, Hi chaps, Hi guys etc. Both of
those could reasonably be said to be aimed at women as well as men these
days, but sometimes it's fairly obvious that they are not. Not something
which I would bother to comment on though if it hadn't come up.

IMO it's all down to the reasonableness of the question and any
responses.

Agreed.

--
Holly, in France
Gite to let in Dordogne, now with pool.
http://la-plaine.chez-alice.fr

In article ,
"Holly, in France" wrote:
There are sometimes messages beginning, Hi chaps, Hi guys etc. Both of
those could reasonably be said to be aimed at women as well as men these
days, but sometimes it's fairly obvious that they are not.

Chaps are male, IMHO.

Guys, either - although this tends to be fairly recent change in meaning.

--
*Why do the two "sanction"s (noun and verb) mean opposites?*

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Mary Fisher wrote:

wrote in message ...
Andrew Gabriel wrote:
In article ,
Janet Bale writes:
How seriously are female posters taken on this DIY forum?

For any poster, mail, female, or anon, it's based on the
quality of your posting history. We have had some expert
contributors in their fields who have been female, lime
plastering, water regulations, insect investations are
some that spring to mind. OTOH, most the posters who have
been mainly noise and no signal have been male.

.... and how do you know what sex the poster is anyway? My name
doesn't indicate my sex.

--
Chris Green

I must say I've sometimes wondered - I assume you're male because of your
manly bearing.

Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooohhh!

(or something)

--
Chris Green

Guy King typed

[2] Quiet at the back, those who've met me - there's at least two of you
in here.

....says the poster who stated he could be mistaken for a woman In
Another Place recently.

--
Helen D. Vecht:
Edgware.

On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 15:22:50 +0100, "Holly, in France" wrote:


I'm surprised that no one has so far mentioned that it's not a forum
it's a newsgroup. Perhaps because they thought they were talking to a
sensitive female?
Nope - I was too busy.
At the least the OP did not call it a "site"...

Geo

The message
from "Dave Plowman (News)" contains these words:

Guys, either

No I'm not!

--
Skipweasel
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

The message
from Helen Deborah Vecht contains these words:

....says the poster who stated he could be mistaken for a woman In
Another Place recently.

But I didn't say by whom.

--
Skipweasel
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

"Holly, in France" wrote in message
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Positive discrimination :-)

Positive discrimination is discrimination. I think of it as patronising.

LOL! when I had my (asexual toe) surgery recently and complained to the
anaesthetist that I didn't like being patronised (he was telling me it would
be just a little scratch) he replied, indignantly, "I'm not patronising you,
Lovey." He followed it immediately with, "I'm not patronising you, Mrs
Fisher." I was amused, he was embarrassed.

Seriously, I think in general we/you are.
Not to me in particular but yes, I have noticed this in the past.

Certainly some men on this ng don't take the few women of us seriously -
especially me :-) But that's their problem, not ours, as I've said, it says
more about them than it does about us and isn't worth contesting.

I think it might be an idea to have a roll call to determine who is and
isn't a woman. A few more details about the regulars would also be
interesting, it's done on some other groups.

For instance I always assumed that Holly was a woman but sometimes s/he has
shown some (what I perceive to be)masculine approaches. Then I remembered
that one of the characters in The Third Man was called Holly.

Then there are the folk called Chris and other names which could be
androgynous.

I'm not interested in those who don't use real names, I expect those who do
to be using their own name, as I do. If they don't it makes me wonder what
else they're concealing.

It's an interesting phenomenon about Usenet and I can't understand it. We
use our own names everywhere else - don't we?

There are sometimes messages beginning, Hi chaps, Hi guys etc. Both of
those could reasonably be said to be aimed at women as well as men these
days, but sometimes it's fairly obvious that they are not. Not something
which I would bother to comment on though if it hadn't come up.

Nor me.

Mary

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Holly, in France" wrote:
There are sometimes messages beginning, Hi chaps, Hi guys etc. Both of
those could reasonably be said to be aimed at women as well as men these
days, but sometimes it's fairly obvious that they are not.

Chaps are male, IMHO.

Well, I do usually say Chaps and Chapesses but I don't mind being called a
Chap if there's an associated respect..

Guys, either - although this tends to be fairly recent change in meaning.

From USA, in my experience. I was surprised when I first heard it, twenty
years ago.

Mary

"Guy King" wrote in message
...
The message
from "Mary Fisher" contains these words:

Um. I don't always WANT to be taken seriously.

But that's got nothing to do with sex. Perhaps I should rephrase that.

Go on then :-)

--
Skipweasel
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.