I'd really like to get a small tumble drier but there seems to be only
one condenser model and that's too big to fit where I want to put it.

I don't want to have to drape a massive tube through the room and out
the window, not to mention the neighbours would probably complain.

I'm wondering, just how much difference is there between clothes drying
on indoor racks and clothes drying in a tumble drier? Surely the same
amount of moisture goes into the air? Stongly tempted to buy the small
drier and just make sure the windows are open when drying.

Any opinions on this?

Daisy

Daisy wrote:
I'd really like to get a small tumble drier but there seems to be only
one condenser model and that's too big to fit where I want to put it.

I don't want to have to drape a massive tube through the room and out
the window, not to mention the neighbours would probably complain.

If you can't use a condensing model, can you not fit a permanent vent
directly through the wall, terminating in a grill on the outside? It's
a fairly straightforward diy or 'handyman' type job and much better to
the 'long tube' solution.

David

On Sat, 18 Feb 2006 13:18:01 -0000 someone who may be Daisy
wrote this:-

I'd really like to get a small tumble drier but there seems to be only
one condenser model and that's too big to fit where I want to put it.

I don't want to have to drape a massive tube through the room and out
the window, not to mention the neighbours would probably complain.

Could you provide an outside vent for the machine? This might
involve something under the floor, or oblong ducting along the wall
might be suitable.

Although the amount of water to be removed is the same with drying
racks it is removed from the clothes more slowly and so has more
time to escape before the room becomes noticeably damp.


--
David Hansen, Edinburgh
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Can't vent it to the outside, because of the terms of the lease.

Thanks for the explanation about the moisture. It seems to me that as
long as I make sure to leave the windows open until all the moisture
has had time to escape, the end result should be the same.

If mushrooms appear, I'll know I was wrong. :-)

Daisy

If I had a problem with damp I might consider a dehumidifier. At the
moment, the clothes are dried indoors on racks and there's no problem
with damp. My reasoning is that using a drier won't create extra
moisture, therefore will also not cause problem with damp as long as
the windows are left open till all damp is dispersed.

Tumblers make a lot of sense in my book. Drying the clothes inside on
racks and radiators is unsightly, and takes up time and space which I
can use in other, more life-enhancing ways. :-)

Daisy

On 19 Feb 2006 02:57:13 -0800 someone who may be
wrote this:-

Tumblers just dont make much sense in my book.

They speed up the process, which can be useful if one is drying lots
of things for a large family. For just one or two people indoor
racks, lines and perhaps some towel rails will do the job for much
less energy/money.

I wonder what the energy/money equation is for using a tumble drier
in a launderette, if one is nearby?


--
David Hansen, Edinburgh
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The difference between drying on racks and drying in a drier may not be
all that clear-cut. I found an interesting document at
http://www.mtprog.com/ApprovedBriefi...fingNoteID=368
comparing the various ways of drying clothes. It makes the point that
drying clothes around the house also has costs, and carries damp risks.
I don't know how accurate the comparison are.

As for drying the clothes in a launderette, that seems a rather drastic
solution, considering that you'd have to factor in the labour of
carrying the wet clothes to the launderette, and then factor in your
time spent waiting for possibly a long time for a machine to come free
which was not wanted by a washing customer.

Or I suppose you could choose to wash the clothes there as well, so as
to get priority on the drier; or you could pay the attendant to dry the
clothes. Not my ideal solution though.

Daisy

wrote:

If I had a problem with damp I might consider a dehumidifier. At the
moment, the clothes are dried indoors on racks and there's no problem
with damp. My reasoning is that using a drier won't create extra
moisture, therefore will also not cause problem with damp as long as
the windows are left open till all damp is dispersed.

Tumblers make a lot of sense in my book. Drying the clothes inside on
racks and radiators is unsightly, and takes up time and space which I
can use in other, more life-enhancing ways. :-)

Daisy

I can see I didnt explain. The idea is to put the clothes away in the
closet, not drape them around the ktichen. Out of the washer into the
closet. The dehumidifier in the closet is your clothes drying machine.
It wins over tumblers on every point bar one: they take longer than 30
mins to dry. It means even less of your time is wasted compared to
tumblers, less space used, less run cost, less energy use, less noise,
etc. Howbig the family is makes no difference to the comparison, other
than that with a tumble you have to wait even longer before you can put
the clothes away and get on with something else.


NT

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writes:

I can see I didnt explain. The idea is to put the clothes away in the
closet, not drape them around the ktichen. Out of the washer into the
closet. The dehumidifier in the closet is your clothes drying machine.
It wins over tumblers on every point bar one: they take longer than 30
mins to dry.

My dehumidifier takes about an hour to dry a washing machine
load, longer if it was all heavy cottons (towels/jeans).
The condensate water is useful for ironing, and the excess
is used to water the plants.

Mine is in the airing cupboard. The built-in humidistat switches
it off when the washing is dry. I also run it through a plug-in
thermostat set to 30C, so it cuts out if the airing cupboard
happens to reach its max operating temperature, which can happen
if the boiler pipework in there is on at the same time.

--
Andrew Gabriel

In article . com,
says...

I can see I didnt explain. The idea is to put the clothes away in the
closet, not drape them around the ktichen. Out of the washer into the
closet. The dehumidifier in the closet is your clothes drying machine.
It wins over tumblers on every point bar one: they take longer than 30
mins to dry. It means even less of your time is wasted compared to
tumblers, less space used, less run cost, less energy use, less noise,
etc. Howbig the family is makes no difference to the comparison, other
than that with a tumble you have to wait even longer before you can put
the clothes away and get on with something else.

Yes I did misunderstand but I still don't get it. A large part of
every load is underwear, which I don't usually hang up in a closet,
call me oldfashioned. Then there's sheets and so on, which also don't
usually get hung up in a closet. So do you put a drying rack in the
closet, hang everything on that, and just treat the closet as if it was
a big drying room?

I don't mean to sound argumentative. A humidifer does sound like it
might be a good option for some loads.

Daisy

To be honest, what you describe does not seem to me to be less
consuming of time and space and (admittedly trivial) labour than
hanging the clothes on airers and racks as I do at present. Throwing
everything in a tumbler would be a lot quicker. But if the load dries
quicker with a dehumidifier, that's definitely an advantage. Thanks
for explaining it. I might give it a try.

Daisy

wrote:
wrote:
In article . com,
says...

I can see I didnt explain. The idea is to put the clothes away in the
closet, not drape them around the ktichen. Out of the washer into the
closet. The dehumidifier in the closet is your clothes drying machine.
It wins over tumblers on every point bar one: they take longer than 30
mins to dry. It means even less of your time is wasted compared to
tumblers, less space used, less run cost, less energy use, less noise,
etc. Howbig the family is makes no difference to the comparison, other
than that with a tumble you have to wait even longer before you can put
the clothes away and get on with something else.

Yes I did misunderstand but I still don't get it. A large part of
every load is underwear, which I don't usually hang up in a closet,
call me oldfashioned. Then there's sheets and so on, which also don't
usually get hung up in a closet. So do you put a drying rack in the
closet, hang everything on that, and just treat the closet as if it was
a big drying room?

I don't mean to sound argumentative. A humidifer does sound like it
might be a good option for some loads.

Daisy

I hang just about everything up, but you can do it however suits you.
I've got some extra large hangers for double blankets etc - and I mean
large.

Thin things like smalls can just be placed on a shelf, they dry soon
enough not to need hanging. It works just like a regular built in
wardrobe expect that you dont need to dry stuff, just put it in and it
dries by itself.

The dehumidifier extracts all the water vapour, creating a very dry
atmosphere in the closet, and moves the air round. This makes
everything dry many times quicker than hanging them up would.

If you dont like hanging some items, conventional slatted shelving
would also work.

Japanese multi-peg hangers are ideal for some things, and multilayer

Why Japanese?

MBQ

wrote:

To be honest, what you describe does not seem to me to be less
consuming of time and space and (admittedly trivial) labour than
hanging the clothes on airers and racks as I do at present. Throwing
everything in a tumbler would be a lot quicker. But if the load dries
quicker with a dehumidifier, that's definitely an advantage. Thanks
for explaining it. I might give it a try.

Daisy

A quick comparison:


Space:

Full size tumble dryer in kitchen vs little dehumidifier in closet


Time and human energy:

Put clothes into dryer, load by load. When done, hang up in closet.
Or just hang up in closet, nothing else.


NT