Matt Finish
 

Just about to decorate the hall and stairs after stripping off the
wallpaper. SWMBO has suggested painting the walls.

I like a really good flat matt finish and we have chosen some matt paint.
Any tips on how to maximise the flat matt finish. Are some rollers better
than others in this respect? Any tips for brush finishing around the edges
to maintain a matt texture?

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Matt Finish
 

John wrote:

Just about to decorate the hall and stairs after stripping off the
wallpaper. SWMBO has suggested painting the walls.

I like a really good flat matt finish and we have chosen some matt paint.
Any tips on how to maximise the flat matt finish. Are some rollers better
than others in this respect? Any tips for brush finishing around the edges
to maintain a matt texture?



The best way to get a really matt finish is to use Farrow and Ball paints.

What you put them on with is (almost) irrelevant. Nothing else touches
them for dead flatness and solidity of color.

Matt Finish
 

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
...
John wrote:

Just about to decorate the hall and stairs after stripping off the
wallpaper. SWMBO has suggested painting the walls.

I like a really good flat matt finish and we have chosen some matt
paint.
Any tips on how to maximise the flat matt finish. Are some rollers
better
than others in this respect? Any tips for brush finishing around the
edges
to maintain a matt texture?



The best way to get a really matt finish is to use Farrow and Ball paints.

What you put them on with is (almost) irrelevant. Nothing else touches
them for dead flatness and solidity of color.


This isn't the first time that I've heard this. I really must try them
sometime.

Aren't other traditional paints such as distemper also known for their
flatness?

Apart from being hugely expensive and difficult to find, I'm not sure about
other downsides.

This place looks interesting.... http://www.realpaints.com



cheers
Richard

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Matt Finish
 

RichardS wrote:

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
...

John wrote:


Just about to decorate the hall and stairs after stripping off the
wallpaper. SWMBO has suggested painting the walls.

I like a really good flat matt finish and we have chosen some matt

paint.

Any tips on how to maximise the flat matt finish. Are some rollers

better

than others in this respect? Any tips for brush finishing around the

edges

to maintain a matt texture?



The best way to get a really matt finish is to use Farrow and Ball paints.

What you put them on with is (almost) irrelevant. Nothing else touches
them for dead flatness and solidity of color.



This isn't the first time that I've heard this. I really must try them
sometime.

Aren't other traditional paints such as distemper also known for their
flatness?


Possibly.



Apart from being hugely expensive and difficult to find, I'm not sure about
other downsides.



Not hugely expensive - about +30% on a decent paint, and I have even
seen them in the sheds...homebase?

They are actually CHEAPER per unit pigmentation. Two coats useually does
for ANY color. rather than three for some 't4rade whites'


This place looks interesting.... http://www.realpaints.com



cheers
Richard

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Matt Finish
 

On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 09:31:31 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:


(re Farrow & Ball paints)

They are actually CHEAPER per unit pigmentation. Two coats useually does
for ANY color. rather than three for some 't4rade whites'

We found that a darker colour (we used their "book room red" in a
dining room) took three coats. Indeed, had we not been forwarned by
the (specialist) shop that we'd bought the F&B from we might have
given up after the first coat, as the dark red over white coverage was
pretty poor. After three coats, though, the results are stunning.

Some of the top-of-the-range Dulux emulsions come close to F&B in
terms of their flatness (but not quite).

Julian

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Matt Finish
 

On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 09:35:20 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:

RichardS wrote:


This place looks interesting.... http://www.realpaints.com


Yes, but the really GOOD thing about Farrow and ball is that it LOOKS
really old, but COVERS and LASTS like a modern emulsion.

i.e. no fade etc.


I tend to agree. Their paints are really nice (and easy) to work
with and the colour ranges effective.

Homebase have most of the colours and types, but F&B also sell direct.
..andy

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Matt Finish
 

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
...
RichardS wrote:


This place looks interesting.... http://www.realpaints.com


Yes, but the really GOOD thing about Farrow and ball is that it LOOKS
really old, but COVERS and LASTS like a modern emulsion.

i.e. no fade etc.

You are welcome to use real ;ead paint if you want, and distemper your
walls with lamp black, ox blood and horse urine if you REALLY want
something that leaves a smudge on your t-shirt for the next 300 years...


ah! I knew that there had to be a downside to these traditional paints.

Not knocking F&B, btw, have heard good things, and intend to try it
sometime.

cheers
Richard

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Matt Finish
 

Andy Hall wrote in message
I tend to agree. Their paints are really nice (and easy) to work
with and the colour ranges effective.

Homebase have most of the colours and types, but F&B also sell direct.
.andy
IIRC they still "edge grind" their pigments in the traditional way. This
results in a larger particle size than the modern mills

Matt Finish
 

Julian Fowler wrote:

On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 09:31:31 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:


(re Farrow & Ball paints)


They are actually CHEAPER per unit pigmentation. Two coats useually does
for ANY color. rather than three for some 't4rade whites'


We found that a darker colour (we used their "book room red" in a
dining room) took three coats. Indeed, had we not been forwarned by
the (specialist) shop that we'd bought the F&B from we might have
given up after the first coat, as the dark red over white coverage was
pretty poor. After three coats, though, the results are stunning.


Had exactly teh same problem with 'Etruscan red' Reds are teh wosrt.
Most of te paler colors went on fine in two coats.



Some of the top-of-the-range Dulux emulsions come close to F&B in
terms of their flatness (but not quite).


No, not quite.



Julian

Matt Finish
 

Homebase have most of the colours and types, but F&B also sell direct.

F&B will send you a beautiful brochure with everything you could want to
know in it. They have ALL their range of types, Homebase do not come close.
And F&B don't make a delivery charge.

I think I used F&B after someone eulogising about them on this ng and
wouldn't now use anything else.

Mary


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Matt Finish
 

"RichardS" noaccess@invalid wrote in message
. ..
"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
...
John wrote:

Just about to decorate the hall and stairs after stripping off the
wallpaper. SWMBO has suggested painting the walls.

I like a really good flat matt finish and we have chosen some matt
paint.
Any tips on how to maximise the flat matt finish. Are some rollers
better
than others in this respect? Any tips for brush finishing around the
edges
to maintain a matt texture?



The best way to get a really matt finish is to use Farrow and Ball
paints.

What you put them on with is (almost) irrelevant. Nothing else touches
them for dead flatness and solidity of color.


This isn't the first time that I've heard this. I really must try them
sometime.

Aren't other traditional paints such as distemper also known for their
flatness?

Distemper may be flat, but it isn't a best wearing surface. Somewhere like
the hall and stairs you may find it comes off on your clothes. We had it in
a hall when I was young and my bro, 13 and six foot, used to jump the stairs
crash into the wall and get the distemper on his brown school blazer. Of
course that was the 1970s maybe there are more 'modern' distempers. Sounds
like a contadiction though...

If you have wains or teenagers I'd advise SWMBO (the decision maker) to go
for satin finish. OK its not very flat, maybe not even flat at all, but at
least you can wipe marks off easily.

Matt Finish
 

Suz wrote:

"RichardS" noaccess@invalid wrote in message
. ..

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
...

John wrote:


Just about to decorate the hall and stairs after stripping off the
wallpaper. SWMBO has suggested painting the walls.

I like a really good flat matt finish and we have chosen some matt

paint.

Any tips on how to maximise the flat matt finish. Are some rollers

better

than others in this respect? Any tips for brush finishing around the

edges

to maintain a matt texture?



The best way to get a really matt finish is to use Farrow and Ball

paints.

What you put them on with is (almost) irrelevant. Nothing else touches
them for dead flatness and solidity of color.


This isn't the first time that I've heard this. I really must try them
sometime.

Aren't other traditional paints such as distemper also known for their
flatness?


Distemper may be flat, but it isn't a best wearing surface. Somewhere like
the hall and stairs you may find it comes off on your clothes. We had it in
a hall when I was young and my bro, 13 and six foot, used to jump the stairs
crash into the wall and get the distemper on his brown school blazer. Of
course that was the 1970s maybe there are more 'modern' distempers. Sounds
like a contadiction though...

If you have wains or teenagers I'd advise SWMBO (the decision maker) to go
for satin finish. OK its not very flat, maybe not even flat at all, but at
least you can wipe marks off easily.




Thats why I recommebned F & B. It is as flat as distemper, but its an
emulsion.