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Matt Finish
Just about to decorate the hall and stairs after stripping off the
wallpaper. SWMBO has suggested painting the walls. I like a really good flat matt finish and we have chosen some matt paint. Any tips on how to maximise the flat matt finish. Are some rollers better than others in this respect? Any tips for brush finishing around the edges to maintain a matt texture? -- Regards John --- All of my outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.512 / Virus Database: 309 - Release Date: 19/08/2003 |
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Matt Finish
John wrote:
Just about to decorate the hall and stairs after stripping off the wallpaper. SWMBO has suggested painting the walls. I like a really good flat matt finish and we have chosen some matt paint. Any tips on how to maximise the flat matt finish. Are some rollers better than others in this respect? Any tips for brush finishing around the edges to maintain a matt texture? The best way to get a really matt finish is to use Farrow and Ball paints. What you put them on with is (almost) irrelevant. Nothing else touches them for dead flatness and solidity of color. |
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Matt Finish
"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
... John wrote: Just about to decorate the hall and stairs after stripping off the wallpaper. SWMBO has suggested painting the walls. I like a really good flat matt finish and we have chosen some matt paint. Any tips on how to maximise the flat matt finish. Are some rollers better than others in this respect? Any tips for brush finishing around the edges to maintain a matt texture? The best way to get a really matt finish is to use Farrow and Ball paints. What you put them on with is (almost) irrelevant. Nothing else touches them for dead flatness and solidity of color. This isn't the first time that I've heard this. I really must try them sometime. Aren't other traditional paints such as distemper also known for their flatness? Apart from being hugely expensive and difficult to find, I'm not sure about other downsides. This place looks interesting.... http://www.realpaints.com cheers Richard -- Richard Sampson email me at richard at olifant d-ot co do-t uk |
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Matt Finish
RichardS wrote:
"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message ... John wrote: Just about to decorate the hall and stairs after stripping off the wallpaper. SWMBO has suggested painting the walls. I like a really good flat matt finish and we have chosen some matt paint. Any tips on how to maximise the flat matt finish. Are some rollers better than others in this respect? Any tips for brush finishing around the edges to maintain a matt texture? The best way to get a really matt finish is to use Farrow and Ball paints. What you put them on with is (almost) irrelevant. Nothing else touches them for dead flatness and solidity of color. This isn't the first time that I've heard this. I really must try them sometime. Aren't other traditional paints such as distemper also known for their flatness? Possibly. Apart from being hugely expensive and difficult to find, I'm not sure about other downsides. Not hugely expensive - about +30% on a decent paint, and I have even seen them in the sheds...homebase? They are actually CHEAPER per unit pigmentation. Two coats useually does for ANY color. rather than three for some 't4rade whites' This place looks interesting.... http://www.realpaints.com cheers Richard -- Richard Sampson email me at richard at olifant d-ot co do-t uk |
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Matt Finish
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 09:31:31 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
wrote: (re Farrow & Ball paints) They are actually CHEAPER per unit pigmentation. Two coats useually does for ANY color. rather than three for some 't4rade whites' We found that a darker colour (we used their "book room red" in a dining room) took three coats. Indeed, had we not been forwarned by the (specialist) shop that we'd bought the F&B from we might have given up after the first coat, as the dark red over white coverage was pretty poor. After three coats, though, the results are stunning. Some of the top-of-the-range Dulux emulsions come close to F&B in terms of their flatness (but not quite). Julian -- Julian Fowler julian (at) bellevue-barn (dot) org (dot) uk |
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Matt Finish
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 09:35:20 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
wrote: RichardS wrote: This place looks interesting.... http://www.realpaints.com Yes, but the really GOOD thing about Farrow and ball is that it LOOKS really old, but COVERS and LASTS like a modern emulsion. i.e. no fade etc. I tend to agree. Their paints are really nice (and easy) to work with and the colour ranges effective. Homebase have most of the colours and types, but F&B also sell direct. ..andy To email, substitute .nospam with .gl |
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Matt Finish
"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
... RichardS wrote: This place looks interesting.... http://www.realpaints.com Yes, but the really GOOD thing about Farrow and ball is that it LOOKS really old, but COVERS and LASTS like a modern emulsion. i.e. no fade etc. You are welcome to use real ;ead paint if you want, and distemper your walls with lamp black, ox blood and horse urine if you REALLY want something that leaves a smudge on your t-shirt for the next 300 years... ah! I knew that there had to be a downside to these traditional paints. Not knocking F&B, btw, have heard good things, and intend to try it sometime. cheers Richard -- Richard Sampson email me at richard at olifant d-ot co do-t uk |
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Matt Finish
Andy Hall wrote in message I tend to agree. Their paints are really nice (and easy) to work with and the colour ranges effective. Homebase have most of the colours and types, but F&B also sell direct. .andy IIRC they still "edge grind" their pigments in the traditional way. This results in a larger particle size than the modern mills |
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Matt Finish
Julian Fowler wrote:
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 09:31:31 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: (re Farrow & Ball paints) They are actually CHEAPER per unit pigmentation. Two coats useually does for ANY color. rather than three for some 't4rade whites' We found that a darker colour (we used their "book room red" in a dining room) took three coats. Indeed, had we not been forwarned by the (specialist) shop that we'd bought the F&B from we might have given up after the first coat, as the dark red over white coverage was pretty poor. After three coats, though, the results are stunning. Had exactly teh same problem with 'Etruscan red' Reds are teh wosrt. Most of te paler colors went on fine in two coats. Some of the top-of-the-range Dulux emulsions come close to F&B in terms of their flatness (but not quite). No, not quite. Julian |
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Matt Finish
Homebase have most of the colours and types, but F&B also sell direct. F&B will send you a beautiful brochure with everything you could want to know in it. They have ALL their range of types, Homebase do not come close. And F&B don't make a delivery charge. I think I used F&B after someone eulogising about them on this ng and wouldn't now use anything else. Mary .andy To email, substitute .nospam with .gl |
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Matt Finish
"RichardS" noaccess@invalid wrote in message . .. "The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message ... John wrote: Just about to decorate the hall and stairs after stripping off the wallpaper. SWMBO has suggested painting the walls. I like a really good flat matt finish and we have chosen some matt paint. Any tips on how to maximise the flat matt finish. Are some rollers better than others in this respect? Any tips for brush finishing around the edges to maintain a matt texture? The best way to get a really matt finish is to use Farrow and Ball paints. What you put them on with is (almost) irrelevant. Nothing else touches them for dead flatness and solidity of color. This isn't the first time that I've heard this. I really must try them sometime. Aren't other traditional paints such as distemper also known for their flatness? Distemper may be flat, but it isn't a best wearing surface. Somewhere like the hall and stairs you may find it comes off on your clothes. We had it in a hall when I was young and my bro, 13 and six foot, used to jump the stairs crash into the wall and get the distemper on his brown school blazer. Of course that was the 1970s maybe there are more 'modern' distempers. Sounds like a contadiction though... If you have wains or teenagers I'd advise SWMBO (the decision maker) to go for satin finish. OK its not very flat, maybe not even flat at all, but at least you can wipe marks off easily. |
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Matt Finish
Suz wrote:
"RichardS" noaccess@invalid wrote in message . .. "The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message ... John wrote: Just about to decorate the hall and stairs after stripping off the wallpaper. SWMBO has suggested painting the walls. I like a really good flat matt finish and we have chosen some matt paint. Any tips on how to maximise the flat matt finish. Are some rollers better than others in this respect? Any tips for brush finishing around the edges to maintain a matt texture? The best way to get a really matt finish is to use Farrow and Ball paints. What you put them on with is (almost) irrelevant. Nothing else touches them for dead flatness and solidity of color. This isn't the first time that I've heard this. I really must try them sometime. Aren't other traditional paints such as distemper also known for their flatness? Distemper may be flat, but it isn't a best wearing surface. Somewhere like the hall and stairs you may find it comes off on your clothes. We had it in a hall when I was young and my bro, 13 and six foot, used to jump the stairs crash into the wall and get the distemper on his brown school blazer. Of course that was the 1970s maybe there are more 'modern' distempers. Sounds like a contadiction though... If you have wains or teenagers I'd advise SWMBO (the decision maker) to go for satin finish. OK its not very flat, maybe not even flat at all, but at least you can wipe marks off easily. Thats why I recommebned F & B. It is as flat as distemper, but its an emulsion. |
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