Hi guys - hope you can help.

I have removed the plaster board from my chimney breast. The idea being
that I will build a frame for my new LCD TV, cover with drywall and get
a plasterer in to complete.

However, having removed the board it appears to have been 'dabbed' onto
the breeze-block wall of the chimney. This has mostly come-off but I am
left with a number of random 'dabs' on the wall. Can anyone tell me the
best method for removing these as I would like a flat wall to start on.

Cheers,

Steve

mountfords wrote:

I have removed the plaster board from my chimney breast. The idea being
that I will build a frame for my new LCD TV, cover with drywall and get
a plasterer in to complete.

However, having removed the board it appears to have been 'dabbed' onto
the breeze-block wall of the chimney. This has mostly come-off but I am
left with a number of random 'dabs' on the wall. Can anyone tell me the
best method for removing these as I would like a flat wall to start on.

Just a lump hammer and bolster chisel. Doesn't need to be perfectly
flat if you're dry-walling it.

David

mountfords wrote:
Hi guys - hope you can help.

I have removed the plaster board from my chimney breast. The idea being
that I will build a frame for my new LCD TV, cover with drywall and get
a plasterer in to complete.

However, having removed the board it appears to have been 'dabbed' onto
the breeze-block wall of the chimney. This has mostly come-off but I am
left with a number of random 'dabs' on the wall. Can anyone tell me the
best method for removing these as I would like a flat wall to start on.

Gosh, that sounds *frightfully* difficult. Get a man in.

I know, it does sound a bit lame!

The one or two I have managed to remove have taken a reasonable chunk
of the breeze block out so I wondered if there was anything that would
help to break them down - water, chemicals etc?

mountfords wrote:

I know, lame!

The one or two I have managed to remove have taken a reasonable chunk
of the breeze block out so I wondered if there was anything that would
help to break them down - water, chemicals etc?

Buy a cheap saw and cut them off. Patch the breezecrap with garden clay
or almost anything else.

I hate that czd. I wonder why people use it. It might make sense if it
came in 8 x 4 ft blocks.

mountfords wrote:
I know, it does sound a bit lame!

The one or two I have managed to remove have taken a reasonable chunk
of the breeze block out so I wondered if there was anything that would
help to break them down - water, chemicals etc?

No quoting, but I've a load on, so am telepathetic. I *know*. Give
the dabs a light fast tap or two with a smorl hammer to crack 'em
before going at them sideways at a shallow angle with a hammer and
bolster.

'night.

Weatherlawyer wrote:
[blobs of stuff]
Buy a cheap saw and cut them off.

Oooh ar, that'd be neat. I wonder how much ity reeyly mattrs.

mountfords wrote:
Hi guys - hope you can help.

I have removed the plaster board from my chimney breast. The idea
being that I will build a frame for my new LCD TV, cover with drywall
and get a plasterer in to complete.

However, having removed the board it appears to have been 'dabbed'
onto the breeze-block wall of the chimney. This has mostly come-off
but I am left with a number of random 'dabs' on the wall. Can anyone
tell me the best method for removing these as I would like a flat
wall to start on.

Cheers,

Steve

Grinder, cut a series of channels down the blobs(to the breeze block
surface obviously),and then chisle of with an old wood chisle.

--
Sir Benjamin Middlethwaite

The3rd Earl Of Derby wrote:

Here's the chisel and off before the pedantics appear. :-P
--
Sir Benjamin Middlethwaite

On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 07:17:24 GMT, The3rd Earl Of Derby wrote:

The3rd Earl Of Derby wrote:

Here's the chisel and off before the pedantics appear. :-P

Or even pedants......

:-)

--
the dot wanderer at tesco dot net

On 16 Jan 2006 14:29:43 -0800, "mountfords"
wrote:

Hi guys - hope you can help.

I have removed the plaster board from my chimney breast. The idea being
that I will build a frame for my new LCD TV, cover with drywall and get
a plasterer in to complete.

However, having removed the board it appears to have been 'dabbed' onto
the breeze-block wall of the chimney. This has mostly come-off but I am
left with a number of random 'dabs' on the wall. Can anyone tell me the
best method for removing these as I would like a flat wall to start on.

Cheers,

Steve
Planning on putting the flat panel above the fireplace is the first
mistake. It should be closer to eye height. Add to that it sounds like
youre planing on boxing it in which'll make it overheat.

marble wrote:
On 16 Jan 2006 14:29:43 -0800, "mountfords"
wrote:

I have removed the plaster board from my chimney breast. The idea being
that I will build a frame for my new LCD TV, cover with drywall and get
a plasterer in to complete.

However, having removed the board it appears to have been 'dabbed' onto
the breeze-block wall of the chimney. This has mostly come-off but I am
left with a number of random 'dabs' on the wall. Can anyone tell me the
best method for removing these as I would like a flat wall to start on.

Planning on putting the flat panel above the fireplace is the first
mistake. It should be closer to eye height. Add to that it sounds like
youre planing on boxing it in which'll make it overheat.

I nearly wrote that! - but then realised the OP doesn't actually mention
a fireplace, and the presence of existing plasterboard made me think it
more likely there isn't one, and therefore he's planning on fitting the
thing at a sensible height.

I agree that it's very odd how many people seem to be fitting these
things above the mantlepiece. Trouble is, in the
conventional/traditional living room arrangement, IME you have chairs
arranged around the fireplace, with the TV to one side or in the corner.
That's fine with a 24" box, but in most places there isn't room for a
40" flatscreen job to sit there or evan attach to the wall next to the
chimmney breast. It would certainly put me right off buying one.

David

On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:30:25 GMT, Lobster
wrote:

marble wrote:
On 16 Jan 2006 14:29:43 -0800, "mountfords"
..

Planning on putting the flat panel above the fireplace is the first
mistake. It should be closer to eye height. Add to that it sounds like
youre planing on boxing it in which'll make it overheat.

I nearly wrote that! - but then realised the OP doesn't actually mention
a fireplace, and the presence of existing plasterboard made me think it
more likely there isn't one, and therefore he's planning on fitting the
thing at a sensible height.

Who knows? He has smashed the plaster off the wall to fit a TV

I agree that it's very odd how many people seem to be fitting these
things above the mantlepiece.

It replaces the print of a couple of naked cherubs watching a sunset
over the sea with horses splashing through the surf. Also the
neigbours can see it from the road.


Trouble is, in the
conventional/traditional living room arrangement, IME you have chairs
arranged around the fireplace, with the TV to one side or in the corner.
That's fine with a 24" box, but in most places there isn't room for a
40" flatscreen job to sit there or evan attach to the wall next to the
chimmney breast. It would certainly put me right off buying one.

David

A screen that size doesn't make sence with our current broadcast TV.
When HDTV comes along maybe it will but untill then my 28" IDTV is
good enough to fall asleep infront of.

The plan is to build an extension to the chimney breast wall - bringing
it out by a few inches. Where the file was there should be a small
recess for ornaments etc, no fire surround (obviously) meaning the
screen will be mounted much lower. I have allowed for the minimum air
space recommended by Sony also. I knocked up a before and after type
image - see below - comments welcome!

Before - http://www.stephenmountford.com/images/livingroom.jpg
After - http://www.stephenmountford.com/imag...ngroommock.jpg

"The Wanderer" wrote in message
. ..
On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 07:17:24 GMT, The3rd Earl Of Derby wrote:

The3rd Earl Of Derby wrote:

Here's the chisel and off before the pedantics appear. :-P

Or even pedants......

:-)

'asn't that Roof Kelly got a list of pedants ...?
Nah, 'ang on .... she -'ain't got a list of pedants .....
but she's 'set up an inquiry'!

--

Brian

"mountfords" wrote in message
oups.com...
The plan is to build an extension to the chimney breast wall -
bringing
it out by a few inches. Where the file was there should be a small
recess for ornaments etc, no fire surround (obviously) meaning the
screen will be mounted much lower. I have allowed for the minimum
air
space recommended by Sony also. I knocked up a before and after type
image - see below - comments welcome!

Before - http://www.stephenmountford.com/images/livingroom.jpg
After - http://www.stephenmountford.com/imag...ngroommock.jpg


AIUI, the sight-line between you sitting (slouching) and
the centre of the 'telly' should be five-degrees or so downwards.
[Your _before_ looked about right]
Tilting your head back to allow an upward sight-line leads to
neck-ache.

--

Brian

"mountfords" wrote in message
oups.com...
The plan is to build an extension to the chimney breast wall - bringing
it out by a few inches. Where the file was there should be a small
recess for ornaments etc, no fire surround (obviously) meaning the
screen will be mounted much lower. I have allowed for the minimum air
space recommended by Sony also. I knocked up a before and after type
image - see below - comments welcome!

Before - http://www.stephenmountford.com/images/livingroom.jpg
After - http://www.stephenmountford.com/imag...ngroommock.jpg

At that height when you "slob" in the seats the picture from the Sony will
be dark as the vertical viewing angle of the Sony's very poor compared to
CRT and plasma.

My mate positioned his 32" Sony LCD above the fire place in house, has was
having organisms about how good it looked etc, standing in the room at a
distance it looked good, going up close looked as good as LCD gets (crap
basically, escaped pixels all over the place), but disadvantage was found as
soon as you sat down, picture was dark and unwatchable

Anyway ended up placing it on a 2 shelf stand thing in front of the fire
place (disused) so that your eye height when stting down is in the centre
third of the screen as recommended by manufacturer, which is why they can
supply a shelf/stand that positions it at the right height for optimal
viewing.

Ian_m wrote:
"mountfords" wrote in message
oups.com...

The plan is to build an extension to the chimney breast wall - bringing
it out by a few inches. Where the file was there should be a small
recess for ornaments etc, no fire surround (obviously) meaning the
screen will be mounted much lower. I have allowed for the minimum air
space recommended by Sony also. I knocked up a before and after type
image - see below - comments welcome!

After - http://www.stephenmountford.com/imag...ngroommock.jpg

Why do you need two tellys in one room ;-)

At that height when you "slob" in the seats the picture from the Sony will
be dark as the vertical viewing angle of the Sony's very poor compared to
CRT and plasma.

My mate positioned his 32" Sony LCD above the fire place in house, has was
having organisms about how good it looked etc, standing in the room at a
distance it looked good, going up close looked as good as LCD gets (crap
basically, escaped pixels all over the place), but disadvantage was found as
soon as you sat down, picture was dark and unwatchable

Suppose it could be mounted slightly tilted to allow for that?

Anyway ended up placing it on a 2 shelf stand thing in front of the fire
place (disused) so that your eye height when stting down is in the centre
third of the screen as recommended by manufacturer, which is why they can
supply a shelf/stand that positions it at the right height for optimal
viewing.

I reckon there will be a big market in contraptions to
support/hang/display/use these things (if there isn't already?). I
envisage various heavy-duty trapezium(?) or angle-poise-type brackets
whereby the TV can be stored away flat against a wall and brought out
quickly and easily, to be positioned at whatever height's required for
whoever's viewing it.

David

I reckon there will be a big market in contraptions to
support/hang/display/use these things (if there isn't already?). I
envisage various heavy-duty trapezium(?) or angle-poise-type brackets
whereby the TV can be stored away flat against a wall and brought out
quickly and easily, to be positioned at whatever height's required for
whoever's viewing it.

We've got one for our computer screen as we have no space for a desk (we
also have cordless keyboard + mouse and use a large wooden chopping board as
a mousemat).

The monitor arm is rated for much higher weights than our 17" and the holes
for fixing them to the screens are a VESA standard. I suspect many larger
LCD TVs would be happy to sit off it.

Christian.

Lobster wrote:
Ian_m wrote:

"mountfords" wrote in message
oups.com...

The plan is to build an extension to the chimney breast wall - bringing
it out by a few inches. Where the file was there should be a small
recess for ornaments etc, no fire surround (obviously) meaning the
screen will be mounted much lower. I have allowed for the minimum air
space recommended by Sony also. I knocked up a before and after type
image - see below - comments welcome!


After - http://www.stephenmountford.com/imag...ngroommock.jpg


Why do you need two tellys in one room ;-)

At that height when you "slob" in the seats the picture from the Sony
will be dark as the vertical viewing angle of the Sony's very poor
compared to CRT and plasma.

My mate positioned his 32" Sony LCD above the fire place in house, has
was having organisms about how good it looked etc, standing in the
room at a distance it looked good, going up close looked as good as
LCD gets (crap basically, escaped pixels all over the place), but
disadvantage was found as soon as you sat down, picture was dark and
unwatchable


Suppose it could be mounted slightly tilted to allow for that?

Anyway ended up placing it on a 2 shelf stand thing in front of the
fire place (disused) so that your eye height when stting down is in
the centre third of the screen as recommended by manufacturer, which
is why they can supply a shelf/stand that positions it at the right
height for optimal viewing.


I reckon there will be a big market in contraptions to
support/hang/display/use these things (if there isn't already?). I
envisage various heavy-duty trapezium(?) or angle-poise-type brackets
whereby the TV can be stored away flat against a wall and brought out
quickly and easily, to be positioned at whatever height's required for
whoever's viewing it.

David

....at which point, give up on the HDTV and get a nice (cheaper) PJ and
invest a couple of hundred in a different screen.

As someone's tag-line once read... "You measure your screen in inches?,
how quaint"

mountfords wrote:

The plan is to build an extension to the chimney breast wall - bringing
it out by a few inches. Where the file was there should be a small
recess for ornaments etc, no fire surround (obviously) meaning the
screen will be mounted much lower. I have allowed for the minimum air
space recommended by Sony also. I knocked up a before and after type
image - see below - comments welcome!

Before - http://www.stephenmountford.com/images/livingroom.jpg
After - http://www.stephenmountford.com/imag...ngroommock.jpg

Before looks much better IMHO.

If you must get a flat panel TV, get a stand and put it in the corner.
The old fireplace looks miles better than the new too (again, IMVHO).