Hi All,

Being off sick for a few days found me stumbling across QVC and one of
their DIY presentations,

Along with the std routers and wire strippers they showed some grey
'plastic' (GRP?) 'screwless rawlplugs' (for want of a better
description) that you just hammered into a pre drilled hole and that
was that?

I guess these are available elsewhere (sheds?) but I wondered if
anyone has used them and what you thought of them?

All the best ..

T i m

On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 10:44:30 GMT, T i m wrote:

Hi All,

Being off sick for a few days found me stumbling across QVC and one of
their DIY presentations,

Along with the std routers and wire strippers they showed some grey
'plastic' (GRP?) 'screwless rawlplugs' (for want of a better
description) that you just hammered into a pre drilled hole and that
was that?

I guess these are available elsewhere (sheds?) but I wondered if
anyone has used them and what you thought of them?

These?:

http://www.tool-net.co.uk/p-310507/f...n-fixings.html

If so, B&Q sell them.

I have used them to hold up kitchen cupboards and they are great. Make
sure you buy decent quality ones though.

sponix

On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 11:06:55 GMT, (sPoNiX) wrote:

On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 10:44:30 GMT, T i m wrote:

Hi All,

Being off sick for a few days found me stumbling across QVC and one of
their DIY presentations,

Along with the std routers and wire strippers they showed some grey
'plastic' (GRP?) 'screwless rawlplugs' (for want of a better
description) that you just hammered into a pre drilled hole and that
was that?

I guess these are available elsewhere (sheds?) but I wondered if
anyone has used them and what you thought of them?

These?:

http://www.tool-net.co.uk/p-310507/f...n-fixings.html

Not quite (with the above you do still actually have a 'screw' even
though you can hammer it in).

More like the top two items on here ..

http://tinyurl.com/dxjkn

Apparently they are 7mm in diameter and you drill a 6mm dia hole.

As you hammer (tap) them in, the slot down them 'gives' to provide a
secure fit?

They did some good demos using them but you never know if their
examples are 'valid' in the real world?

All the best ..

T i m

T i m wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 11:06:55 GMT, (sPoNiX) wrote:

On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 10:44:30 GMT, T i m wrote:

Hi All,

Being off sick for a few days found me stumbling across QVC and one of
their DIY presentations,

Along with the std routers and wire strippers they showed some grey
'plastic' (GRP?) 'screwless rawlplugs' (for want of a better
description) that you just hammered into a pre drilled hole and that
was that?

I guess these are available elsewhere (sheds?) but I wondered if
anyone has used them and what you thought of them?

These?:

http://www.tool-net.co.uk/p-310507/f...n-fixings.html

Not quite (with the above you do still actually have a 'screw' even
though you can hammer it in).

More like the top two items on here ..

http://tinyurl.com/dxjkn

Apparently they are 7mm in diameter and you drill a 6mm dia hole.

As you hammer (tap) them in, the slot down them 'gives' to provide a
secure fit?

How do you get them out again?

MBQ

On 16 Jan 2006 03:31:41 -0800, wrote:

|
|T i m wrote:
| On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 11:06:55 GMT, (sPoNiX) wrote:
|
| On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 10:44:30 GMT, T i m wrote:
|
| Hi All,
|
| Being off sick for a few days found me stumbling across QVC and one of
| their DIY presentations,
|
| Along with the std routers and wire strippers they showed some grey
| 'plastic' (GRP?) 'screwless rawlplugs' (for want of a better
| description) that you just hammered into a pre drilled hole and that
| was that?
|
| I guess these are available elsewhere (sheds?) but I wondered if
| anyone has used them and what you thought of them?
|
| These?:
|
| http://www.tool-net.co.uk/p-310507/f...n-fixings.html
|
| Not quite (with the above you do still actually have a 'screw' even
| though you can hammer it in).
|
| More like the top two items on here ..
|
| http://tinyurl.com/dxjkn
|
| Apparently they are 7mm in diameter and you drill a 6mm dia hole.
|
| As you hammer (tap) them in, the slot down them 'gives' to provide a
| secure fit?
|
|How do you get them out again?
|

Angle grinder?
--
Dave Fawthrop dave hyphenologist co uk
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wrote:
T i m wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 11:06:55 GMT, (sPoNiX) wrote:

On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 10:44:30 GMT, T i m wrote:

Hi All,

Being off sick for a few days found me stumbling across QVC and
one of their DIY presentations,

Along with the std routers and wire strippers they showed some grey
'plastic' (GRP?) 'screwless rawlplugs' (for want of a better
description) that you just hammered into a pre drilled hole and
that was that?

I guess these are available elsewhere (sheds?) but I wondered if
anyone has used them and what you thought of them?

These?:


http://www.tool-net.co.uk/p-310507/f...tersunk-nylon-
hammer-in-fixings.html

Not quite (with the above you do still actually have a 'screw' even
though you can hammer it in).

More like the top two items on here ..

http://tinyurl.com/dxjkn

Apparently they are 7mm in diameter and you drill a 6mm dia hole.

As you hammer (tap) them in, the slot down them 'gives' to provide a
secure fit?

How do you get them out again?

MBQ

Er! drill them out.

Personally these are for light fixings to a wall and i would never trust a
plastic dowel&peg for cupboards.

--
Sir Benjamin Middlethwaite

On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 11:37:32 GMT, "The3rd Earl Of Derby"
wrote:



How do you get them out again?

MBQ

Er! drill them out.

That's the answer they offered in the presentation and being 'plastic'
shouldn't be too difficult?

Personally these are for light fixings to a wall and i would never trust a
plastic dowel&peg for cupboards.

Whilst I agree if the substrate is less than predictable, in something
'good' however I believe most of the load on the fastenings on a wall
mounted cupboard (for example) is shear and these things looked pretty
tough (they sounded 'hard' as they were being hammered in)?

They had a 4 1/2" thick concrete block (not celcon etc) hanging from a
string hooked over one single plug designed for picture hanging (with
a thin 'waist' as such) and that was in the side of the bench that
was moving about as they did the demos?

He also demonstrated a round headed plug by fixing a shallow metal
single box to some form of concrete block. After he tapped the single
plug home in the middle of the box he realised it was on the pi$$ but
couldn't easily twist the box square (suggesting it was held on there
with some force)?

These plugs are smooth and I believe work simply by the pressure
excerted into the hole by the 'stiffness' of the (GR)plastic ..
something similar to the effect you get when you expand a soft plastic
plug in a hole with a metal plug (screw)?

I dare say when the first purpose made wall plugs came out there were
fears of them not being as good as the 'real thing' (a wooden dowell
or a load of matches g) and the same again when we went from fibre
to plastic?

As mentioned though on an old house like this (1897) I think I would
still like the 'feel' you get with screw-in-plug (a clue re the result
found as the drill goes into air or flint) but for fast / light work
on new builds... ?

All the best ..

T i m

On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 11:35:03 +0000, Dave Fawthrop
wrote:


|
|How do you get them out again?
|

Angle grinder?

Funny you should say that Dave but a point of note was that if you
used the countersunk head version it could be sanded flush with the
surface (if say used through a wooden batten), easily painted and
wouldn't rust (un treated) like a screw might?

Hmmm .. shrug

All the best ..

T i m