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Vass January 14th 06 06:57 PM

Bath panel - tiled do I need access?
 
Would really like to continue the tiled theme throughout the bathroom, so
was thinking of using some ply and tiling it instead of the supplied panel.
The question of access to the plubing (taps and waste for bath only) come to
mind.
Could I make a couple of holes in the tiles and screw the panel to a frame
behind and fix a rubber strip at the top for seal purposes or am I over
engineering something that
really is'nt needed?
Just block it up and forget it ?
--
Vass



Dave Fawthrop January 14th 06 07:17 PM

Bath panel - tiled do I need access?
 
On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 18:57:09 -0000, "Vass"
wrote:

|Would really like to continue the tiled theme throughout the bathroom, so
|was thinking of using some ply and tiling it instead of the supplied panel.
|The question of access to the plubing (taps and waste for bath only) come to
|mind.
|Could I make a couple of holes in the tiles and screw the panel to a frame
|behind and fix a rubber strip at the top for seal purposes or am I over
|engineering something that
|really is'nt needed?
|Just block it up and forget it ?

Never block any plumbing up and forget it. You will IME always need access
under the bath, to the bath waste, and less likely the taps at some stage
in the future.
--
Dave Fawthrop dave hyphenologist co uk
17,000 free e-books at Project Gutenberg! http://www.gutenberg.net
For Yorkshire Dialect go to www.hyphenologist.co.uk/songs/

johnty January 14th 06 07:25 PM

Bath panel - tiled do I need access?
 

Vass wrote:

Would really like to continue the tiled theme throughout the bathroom, so
was thinking of using some ply and tiling it instead of the supplied panel.
The question of access to the plubing (taps and waste for bath only) come to
mind.
Could I make a couple of holes in the tiles and screw the panel to a frame
behind and fix a rubber strip at the top for seal purposes or am I over
engineering something that
really is'nt needed?


Fix it with a couple of mirror screws and silicon joints instead of
grout.


Blueyonder January 14th 06 07:44 PM

Bath panel - tiled do I need access?
 

"Vass" wrote in message
...
Would really like to continue the tiled theme throughout the bathroom, so
was thinking of using some ply and tiling it instead of the supplied
panel.
The question of access to the plubing (taps and waste for bath only) come
to mind.


I've used magnets to hold my panel on. Holds nice and fast, but can be
removed in seconds if need be.

-- JJ




Dave Fawthrop January 14th 06 08:00 PM

Bath panel - tiled do I need access?
 
On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 19:44:08 GMT, "Blueyonder"
wrote:

|
|"Vass" wrote in message
...
| Would really like to continue the tiled theme throughout the bathroom,so
| was thinking of using some ply and tiling it instead of the supplied
| panel.
| The question of access to the plubing (taps and waste for bath only) come
| to mind.
|
|I've used magnets to hold my panel on. Holds nice and fast, but can be
|removed in seconds if need be.

Modern magnets are wonderful. I have some 1cm dia which are N in the
middle S round the outside (or vica verca) and nothing on the back.
--
Dave Fawthrop dave hyphenologist co uk
17,000 free e-books at Project Gutenberg! http://www.gutenberg.net
For Yorkshire Dialect go to www.hyphenologist.co.uk/songs/

Dave Liquorice January 14th 06 08:01 PM

Bath panel - tiled do I need access?
 
On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 18:57:09 -0000, Vass wrote:

Just block it up and forget it ?


I wouldn't, Sods Law will apply. Leave access and you'll never need
it. Don't leave access and you will. I'd be tempted to make the whole
panel removeable as a tiled lump. It would have to have a fairly
ridged base so the tiles don't fall off if you move it. 3/8th ply with
battens on the back. Frame in the side of the bath with mirror screws
holding the tiled panel in place.


--
Cheers
Dave. pam is missing e-mail




Lobster January 14th 06 08:08 PM

Bath panel - tiled do I need access?
 
Dave Fawthrop wrote:

Modern magnets are wonderful. I have some 1cm dia which are N in the
middle S round the outside (or vica verca) and nothing on the back.


I'm sure I'm being really thick asking this - but why?!
David

Dave Fawthrop January 14th 06 09:09 PM

Bath panel - tiled do I need access?
 
On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 20:08:04 GMT, Lobster
wrote:

|Dave Fawthrop wrote:
|
| Modern magnets are wonderful. I have some 1cm dia which are N in the
| middle S round the outside (or vica verca) and nothing on the back.
|
|I'm sure I'm being really thick asking this - but why?!

They are give away items which came with a small W H Smiths white board to
stick papers onto the board. I would guess that they are that way because
it is now possible. They probably do it because it is cheaper and stronger
than N at one side of the disk and S at the other.
--
Dave Fawthrop dave hyphenologist co uk
17,000 free e-books at Project Gutenberg! http://www.gutenberg.net
For Yorkshire Dialect go to www.hyphenologist.co.uk/songs/

Vass January 14th 06 11:16 PM

Bath panel - tiled do I need access?
 

"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message
ll.com...
On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 18:57:09 -0000, Vass wrote:

Just block it up and forget it ?


I wouldn't, Sods Law will apply. Leave access and you'll never need
it. Don't leave access and you will. I'd be tempted to make the whole
panel removeable as a tiled lump. It would have to have a fairly
ridged base so the tiles don't fall off if you move it. 3/8th ply with
battens on the back. Frame in the side of the bath with mirror screws
holding the tiled panel in place.


yep thats the way I'm going to go
what about a rubber seal along the top?
(bath used as shower too)
thanks for advice all..
--
Vass



Blueyonder January 15th 06 02:19 AM

Bath panel - tiled do I need access?
 

"Dave Fawthrop" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 19:44:08 GMT, "Blueyonder"
wrote:

|
|"Vass" wrote in message
...
| Would really like to continue the tiled theme throughout the bathroom, so
| was thinking of using some ply and tiling it instead of the supplied
| panel.
| The question of access to the plubing (taps and waste for bath only) come
| to mind.
|
|I've used magnets to hold my panel on. Holds nice and fast, but can be
|removed in seconds if need be.

Modern magnets are wonderful. I have some 1cm dia which are N in the
middle S round the outside (or vica verca) and nothing on the back.


I just used old magnets rescued from some chipboard wardrobes destined for
the dump. They come wrapped in plastic, with screw fixings, so are easy to
use.

If you want some *really* strong magnets, then rip an old hard-disk apart.
There are magnets in those things that are only millimetres thick, but
strong enough to bend water (really - you can see the effect by holding the
magnet under a thin tray of water while shining a bright light on the top,
and watching the reflection. They are really strong - too strong for a bath
panel, and strong enough also to give you a nasty nip, but fun to play
with).

-- JJ



david lang January 15th 06 02:46 AM

Bath panel - tiled do I need access?
 
Dave Fawthrop wrote:

Modern magnets are wonderful. I have some 1cm dia which are N in the
middle S round the outside (or vica verca) and nothing on the back.


Modern neodymium-iron-boron (NdFeB) magnets are incredible. I have some of
these 'rare earth magnets'
http://www.axminster.co.uk/name/rare...nets-19790.htm

The ones the size of an aspirin are near impossible to pull apart. In fact,
if you aren't careful they catch your fingers.

Dave



Davao January 15th 06 10:44 AM

Bath panel - tiled do I need access?
 

"Blueyonder" wrote in message
...

"Vass" wrote in message
...
Would really like to continue the tiled theme throughout the bathroom, so
was thinking of using some ply and tiling it instead of the supplied
panel.
The question of access to the plubing (taps and waste for bath only) come
to mind.


I've used magnets to hold my panel on. Holds nice and fast, but can be
removed in seconds if need be.


Nice idea....probably better than mine. I was thinking of using velcro.

Arthur



[email protected] January 15th 06 11:02 AM

Bath panel - tiled do I need access?
 
Just recess the panel 'under' the bath, and you won't need a seal.
The supplied panels usually (IME of 3?) fit inside the bath anyway....

M.


Barry January 15th 06 11:36 AM

Bath panel - tiled do I need access?
 

wrote in message
oups.com...
Just recess the panel 'under' the bath, and you won't need a seal.
The supplied panels usually (IME of 3?) fit inside the bath anyway....

M.



I used plastic soffit board for a bath panel .cheap light and easy to cut to
size.
Great if you want / need a simple flat bath panel.

All the previous ideas to fit are easy to do...I found some lovely german
plastic snap screw covers in gloss white and used them in 3 vertical rows of
3
and they look like white rivets .......OK OK Im a poncey
designer...........but it looks great and easy to remove in an emergency.

B




Dave Liquorice January 16th 06 12:31 AM

Bath panel - tiled do I need access?
 
On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 23:16:23 -0000, Vass wrote:

what about a rubber seal along the top?


I'd not bother, use WBP ply and it's not going to worry about a bit of
damp. I would see if tucking the top of the panel under the lip of the
bath would produce something acceptable in appearance, it might not.
If it didn't I'd make sure the top of the panel was well sealed
somehow, varnish probably.

--
Cheers
Dave. pam is missing e-mail




[email protected] January 16th 06 11:19 AM

Bath panel - tiled do I need access?
 

johnty wrote:
Vass wrote:

Would really like to continue the tiled theme throughout the bathroom, so
was thinking of using some ply and tiling it instead of the supplied panel.
The question of access to the plubing (taps and waste for bath only) come to
mind.
Could I make a couple of holes in the tiles and screw the panel to a frame
behind and fix a rubber strip at the top for seal purposes or am I over
engineering something that
really is'nt needed?


Fix it with a couple of mirror screws and silicon joints instead of
grout.


That's a good idea but most mirror screws are too short to go through
tiles, adhesive bed, ply and still penetrate the supports sufficiently.

MBQ


johnty January 17th 06 07:36 AM

Bath panel - tiled do I need access?
 

wrote:
johnty wrote:



Fix it with a couple of mirror screws and silicon joints instead of
grout.


That's a good idea but most mirror screws are too short to go through
tiles, adhesive bed, ply and still penetrate the supports sufficiently.


Maybe, but that is what I did for both a boxed-in bath and a shower
cubicle and found sufficient-length screws without trouble.


Mike Clarke January 17th 06 12:31 PM

Bath panel - tiled do I need access?
 
In article , Vass
wrote:

Would really like to continue the tiled theme throughout the bathroom,
so was thinking of using some ply and tiling it instead of the supplied
panel. The question of access to the plubing (taps and waste for bath
only) come to mind. Could I make a couple of holes in the tiles and
screw the panel to a frame behind and fix a rubber strip at the top for
seal purposes or am I over
engineering something that
really is'nt needed?


Depending on layout and wall construction is it possible to provide an
access panel from an inconspicuous position in an adjacent room instead.

--
Mike Clarke

Rick Hughes January 20th 06 07:45 PM

Bath panel - tiled do I need access?
 

"Vass" wrote in message
...
Would really like to continue the tiled theme throughout the bathroom, so
was thinking of using some ply and tiling it instead of the supplied
panel.
The question of access to the plubing (taps and waste for bath only) come
to mind.



I made access to mine via the next room allowing uninterrupted tiling ....
used an access panel in built-in wardrobes which allowed an access panel to
be fitted into partition wall.



The Natural Philosopher January 25th 06 07:41 PM

Bath panel - tiled do I need access?
 
On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 12:31:45 +0000, Mike Clarke wrote:

In article , Vass
wrote:

Would really like to continue the tiled theme throughout the bathroom,
so was thinking of using some ply and tiling it instead of the supplied
panel. The question of access to the plubing (taps and waste for bath
only) come to mind. Could I make a couple of holes in the tiles and
screw the panel to a frame behind and fix a rubber strip at the top for
seal purposes or am I over
engineering something that
really is'nt needed?


Depending on layout and wall construction is it possible to provide an
access panel from an inconspicuous position in an adjacent room instead.


Or make a removabled tiled panel (mirror screws) or simply buy plenty of
spare tiles and smash the panel when the taps go..

let's face it, its a bitch to get at the taps ANYWAY even without any
panelling at all. and traps are almost impossible to replace.

I reckon that the answer is to use a water softener.

That way the taps will do 30 years, with only washer repacments, and by
that time you will want a whole new bathroom.


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