Sometime I get the feeling machines are actually living beings; they
take on a personality in my mind and if I take them down the dump I
feel a genuine twinge of sorrow thinking of the poor, once coveted
piece of consumer joy lying exposed and decaying in the wind rain and
cold.

It was therefore with reluctance that I took my four year old Dyson
down there yesterday. I didn't buy it myself, although it was my money
that was used, but I kind of inherited it after the divorce. Honestly
though, ever since it has ****ed me off nearly as much as my ex wife.

What a pile of ****. £260 of anger and frustration ( I found the
original receipt the other day ). I'd rather change the odd bag than
spent an hour a month fixing the blasted thing. Every single piece
that can get blocked gets blocked. Every tiny piece of gravel gets
jammed in the rotating roller brush thingy, causing an appalling
racket accompanied by the stench of burning rubber as the belt
overheats. Every time I empty it I end up with crap going everywhere.
There is no proper place for the mains lead which ends up distorted
and tangled and, as a result, always a foot shorter than it needs to
be for any given job. Every time it goes over a near insurmountable
obstacle, like the metal bit that joins the carpet between two rooms,
all the tools drop off.

I have new carpet and the lump of junk actually made the carpet worse
after vacuuming than before.

How do they get away with selling such a crock of ******** ? Does
no-one ever complain ? Are they just objects of desire for women and
homesexuals who keep their house so immaculate that the useless ****er
never has to do any actual work ?????

So stuff it. Off the dump, sorry Recycling Center, we go. Stone me,
there must have been 150 vacuum cleaners there and guess what ?
I reckon 70% were Dysons. Either they have an incredible market
penetration or they really, genuinely are a total sack of ****.

So now I have a Henry. It sit there and smiles and could suck a ten
pound melon down a hosepipe. It even actually lifts the dirt of the
carpet. And it was just over a third of the price of the thing it
replaced.


norm

"norm" wrote in message
...
Sometime I get the feeling machines are actually living beings; they
take on a personality in my mind and if I take them down the dump I
feel a genuine twinge of sorrow thinking of the poor, once coveted
piece of consumer joy lying exposed and decaying in the wind rain and
cold.

It was therefore with reluctance that I took my four year old Dyson
down there yesterday. I didn't buy it myself, although it was my money
that was used, but I kind of inherited it after the divorce. Honestly
though, ever since it has ****ed me off nearly as much as my ex wife.

What a pile of ****. £260 of anger and frustration ( I found the
original receipt the other day ). I'd rather change the odd bag than
spent an hour a month fixing the blasted thing. Every single piece
that can get blocked gets blocked. Every tiny piece of gravel gets
jammed in the rotating roller brush thingy, causing an appalling
racket accompanied by the stench of burning rubber as the belt
overheats. Every time I empty it I end up with crap going everywhere.
There is no proper place for the mains lead which ends up distorted
and tangled and, as a result, always a foot shorter than it needs to
be for any given job. Every time it goes over a near insurmountable
obstacle, like the metal bit that joins the carpet between two rooms,
all the tools drop off.

I have new carpet and the lump of junk actually made the carpet worse
after vacuuming than before.

How do they get away with selling such a crock of ******** ? Does
no-one ever complain ? Are they just objects of desire for women and
homesexuals who keep their house so immaculate that the useless ****er
never has to do any actual work ?????

So stuff it. Off the dump, sorry Recycling Center, we go. Stone me,
there must have been 150 vacuum cleaners there and guess what ?
I reckon 70% were Dysons. Either they have an incredible market
penetration or they really, genuinely are a total sack of ****.

So now I have a Henry. It sit there and smiles and could suck a ten
pound melon down a hosepipe. It even actually lifts the dirt of the
carpet. And it was just over a third of the price of the thing it
replaced.


norm





good move
only one i have found worse than dyson is kirby

Yes they are crap but I do miss the satisfaction of seeing the dust and
doghairs filling up the cylinder. Particularly satisfying when
vacuuming bed mattresses etc where otherwise invisible dust becomes
apparent in the cylinder.
The DC01 cylinder wasn't too bad but the uprights I've tried are
appalling - I regularly spend half an hour or more unblocking by mums.
Now have a bosch ergomax which is a wonderfully sucker - less than half
the price of a dyson and you can get an washable emptyable bag as an
extra.

cheers

Jacob

Hi,

"norm" wrote in message
...

[snip]
It was therefore with reluctance that I took my four year old Dyson
down there yesterday. I didn't buy it myself, although it was my money
that was used, but I kind of inherited it after the divorce. Honestly
though, ever since it has ****ed me off nearly as much as my ex wife.

This entire post is equally true for me, except that we ended up with
Henry's brother George (he shampoos as well as sucks) and I can't
comment on your ex-wife. The Dyson drives me mad, and now lives
in the shed.

How do they get away with selling such a crock of ******** ?

Beats me. Heaven forbid it should have to pick up something huge
like a peanut. Our Dyson is fine for dust, but for the kind of detritus that
kids leave around (bits of cereal, fragments of paper, peanuts etc)
it's a waste of time. George just picks up everything in its path. One
day I swear I'll have to remove a sofa from the dust bag following an
errant swing of the hose. It's already almost won a wrestling match
with the curtains.

Incidentally, Henry should work just fine without bags - my chimney sweep
uses one to pick up the soot, and he just empties the entire plastic
chamber into the bin - no bags. It does get a bit smeggy inside after
a while, but they clean up easily.

Oh, and the customer service from Numatic is excellent, which helps.

Regards,
Glenn.

norm wrote:
Sometime I get the feeling machines are actually living beings; they
take on a personality in my mind and if I take them down the dump I
feel a genuine twinge of sorrow thinking of the poor, once coveted
piece of consumer joy lying exposed and decaying in the wind rain and
cold.

It was therefore with reluctance that I took my four year old Dyson
down there yesterday. I didn't buy it myself, although it was my money
that was used, but I kind of inherited it after the divorce. Honestly
though, ever since it has ****ed me off nearly as much as my ex wife.

What a pile of ****. £260 of anger and frustration ( I found the
original receipt the other day ). I'd rather change the odd bag than
spent an hour a month fixing the blasted thing. Every single piece
that can get blocked gets blocked. Every tiny piece of gravel gets
jammed in the rotating roller brush thingy, causing an appalling
racket accompanied by the stench of burning rubber as the belt
overheats. Every time I empty it I end up with crap going everywhere.
There is no proper place for the mains lead which ends up distorted
and tangled and, as a result, always a foot shorter than it needs to
be for any given job. Every time it goes over a near insurmountable
obstacle, like the metal bit that joins the carpet between two rooms,
all the tools drop off.

I have new carpet and the lump of junk actually made the carpet worse
after vacuuming than before.

How do they get away with selling such a crock of ******** ? Does
no-one ever complain ? Are they just objects of desire for women and
homesexuals who keep their house so immaculate that the useless ****er
never has to do any actual work ?????

So stuff it. Off the dump, sorry Recycling Center, we go. Stone me,
there must have been 150 vacuum cleaners there and guess what ?
I reckon 70% were Dysons. Either they have an incredible market
penetration or they really, genuinely are a total sack of ****.

So now I have a Henry. It sit there and smiles and could suck a ten
pound melon down a hosepipe. It even actually lifts the dirt of the
carpet. And it was just over a third of the price of the thing it
replaced.


I wonder if Andy has a Dyson.......

"norm" wrote in message
...
Sometime I get the feeling machines are actually living beings; they
take on a personality in my mind and if I take them down the dump I
feel a genuine twinge of sorrow thinking of the poor, once coveted
piece of consumer joy lying exposed and decaying in the wind rain and
cold.

It was therefore with reluctance that I took my four year old Dyson
down there yesterday. I didn't buy it myself, although it was my money
that was used, but I kind of inherited it after the divorce. Honestly
though, ever since it has ****ed me off nearly as much as my ex wife.

What a pile of ****. £260 of anger and frustration ( I found the
original receipt the other day ). I'd rather change the odd bag than
spent an hour a month fixing the blasted thing. Every single piece
that can get blocked gets blocked. Every tiny piece of gravel gets
jammed in the rotating roller brush thingy, causing an appalling
racket accompanied by the stench of burning rubber as the belt
overheats. Every time I empty it I end up with crap going everywhere.
There is no proper place for the mains lead which ends up distorted
and tangled and, as a result, always a foot shorter than it needs to
be for any given job. Every time it goes over a near insurmountable
obstacle, like the metal bit that joins the carpet between two rooms,
all the tools drop off.

I have new carpet and the lump of junk actually made the carpet worse
after vacuuming than before.

How do they get away with selling such a crock of ******** ? Does
no-one ever complain ? Are they just objects of desire for women and
homesexuals who keep their house so immaculate that the useless ****er
never has to do any actual work ?????

So stuff it. Off the dump, sorry Recycling Center, we go. Stone me,
there must have been 150 vacuum cleaners there and guess what ?
I reckon 70% were Dysons. Either they have an incredible market
penetration or they really, genuinely are a total sack of ****.

So now I have a Henry. It sit there and smiles and could suck a ten
pound melon down a hosepipe. It even actually lifts the dirt of the
carpet. And it was just over a third of the price of the thing it
replaced.


norm

My Dyson (DC03) has worked great with the one exception of the mains cable,
which I repaired at zero expense. never a blockage or problem, there was
also no smell ever got through until the hepa filter eventually got too
disgusting (after about 5 years.) which I then replaced.

So, perhaps it is the workman not the tool?

mrcheerful

On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 17:52:30 GMT, Stuart Noble
wrote:



I wonder if Andy has a Dyson.......

No, a Miele of course.


However, I do have a much bigger cyclone with very big hoses, where
there is no question of ability to suck.

http://www.oneida-air.com/products/s...pcomm/main.htm


--

..andy

Glenn Booth wrote:

Hi,

"norm" wrote in message
...


This entire post is equally true for me, except that we ended up with
Henry's brother George (he shampoos as well as sucks) and I can't
comment on your ex-wife. The Dyson drives me mad, and now lives
in the shed.

I must admit, I was tempted to buy a dyson, until I read the stories in
this news group. That totally put me off one.

Like you, I have a George at school and it does what it says on the tin.
It's just a bit poorly right now, the spay is too narrow for shampooing.

Dave

mrcheerful
. wrote:
"norm" wrote in message
...
Sometime I get the feeling machines are actually living beings; they
take on a personality in my mind and if I take them down the dump I
feel a genuine twinge of sorrow thinking of the poor, once coveted
piece of consumer joy lying exposed and decaying in the wind rain and
cold.

It was therefore with reluctance that I took my four year old Dyson
down there yesterday. I didn't buy it myself, although it was my money
that was used, but I kind of inherited it after the divorce. Honestly
though, ever since it has ****ed me off nearly as much as my ex wife.

What a pile of ****. £260 of anger and frustration ( I found the
original receipt the other day ). I'd rather change the odd bag than
spent an hour a month fixing the blasted thing. Every single piece
that can get blocked gets blocked. Every tiny piece of gravel gets
jammed in the rotating roller brush thingy, causing an appalling
racket accompanied by the stench of burning rubber as the belt
overheats. Every time I empty it I end up with crap going everywhere.
There is no proper place for the mains lead which ends up distorted
and tangled and, as a result, always a foot shorter than it needs to
be for any given job. Every time it goes over a near insurmountable
obstacle, like the metal bit that joins the carpet between two rooms,
all the tools drop off.

I have new carpet and the lump of junk actually made the carpet worse
after vacuuming than before.

How do they get away with selling such a crock of ******** ? Does
no-one ever complain ? Are they just objects of desire for women and
homesexuals who keep their house so immaculate that the useless ****er
never has to do any actual work ?????

So stuff it. Off the dump, sorry Recycling Center, we go. Stone me,
there must have been 150 vacuum cleaners there and guess what ?
I reckon 70% were Dysons. Either they have an incredible market
penetration or they really, genuinely are a total sack of ****.

So now I have a Henry. It sit there and smiles and could suck a ten
pound melon down a hosepipe. It even actually lifts the dirt of the
carpet. And it was just over a third of the price of the thing it
replaced.


norm

My Dyson (DC03) has worked great with the one exception of the mains cable,
which I repaired at zero expense. never a blockage or problem, there was
also no smell ever got through until the hepa filter eventually got too
disgusting (after about 5 years.) which I then replaced.

So, perhaps it is the workman not the tool?

mrcheerful
Nah definitely the tool. You obviously don't have serious dust - hepa
filters last 10 minutes in our house.

cheers

Jacob

"mrcheerful ." wrote in message
k...

"norm" wrote in message
...
Sometime I get the feeling machines are actually living beings; they
take on a personality in my mind and if I take them down the dump I
feel a genuine twinge of sorrow thinking of the poor, once coveted
piece of consumer joy lying exposed and decaying in the wind rain and
cold.



Is it an upright versus cylinder debate in reality?

I have an old Hoover Constellation (Spherical thing) that I guess is as
useful as a Henry suck box. For carpets a Dyson DC07. I guide it over the
door threshold strips - I don't just ram it into them. It has never blocked.
I appreciate it is made of plastic and could break - it gets treated
accordingly. I fail to see how the lead can be a cause of problems - any
more than any other appliance - however a relative always wreck every lead
on all appliances due to winding them up from the plug end and then having a
tangle at the appliance end.

I like the Dyson - it is not a great piece of heavy engineering - it is a
domestic tool.

PS. I would love a built in vacuum cleaner with the motor unit in the
garage.

John

On Sun, 4 Dec 2005 19:31:25 +0000 (UTC), Dave
wrote:

Glenn Booth wrote:

Hi,

"norm" wrote in message
...


This entire post is equally true for me, except that we ended up with
Henry's brother George (he shampoos as well as sucks) and I can't
comment on your ex-wife. The Dyson drives me mad, and now lives
in the shed.

I must admit, I was tempted to buy a dyson, until I read the stories in
this news group. That totally put me off one.

Like you, I have a George at school and it does what it says on the tin.
It's just a bit poorly right now, the spay is too narrow for shampooing.

Dave


Better take him to the vet then..... :-)


--

..andy

The bloke Dyson is nothing but an industrial fraudster just like his
oppo Clive Sinclair. Anyone old enough to remember the crap Pulse
Width Modulation amplifiers that Sinclair brought out in the mid 1960's
will know that he was just a complete fraud.

My 23 year old Phillips vacuum cleaner will out-suck our Dyson. WE WERE
GIVEN THE DYSON for nowt.

Chris

On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 16:56:29 +0000, norm
wrote:

How do they get away with selling such a crock of ******** ?

Why do people keep falling for Dyson's perpetual self-publication and
repeated bloody awful engineering ? He's the emperor's new vacuum
cleaner salesman - the things are vastly over-priced and basically
rubbish.

Got one of his original ballbarrows ? Fed up with its inability to
follow a straight line ? Staple-gun a strip of old bike tyre around
the equator. You'll improve its handling no end. Now I discovered this
when I was a kid - why didn't Dyson "Britain's Greatest Engineer" apply
the same obvious fix at the factory ?

The only good thing about Dysons is that you can get them for free.
Scrounge up a couple of discarded dead ones (and there are plenty) and
2/3rds of them can be fixed by just fixing the failed power cables -
where rubbish design and a poor strain relief causes them _all_ to break
in exactly the same spot.

On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 19:38:08 GMT, "john"
wrote:


"mrcheerful ." wrote in message
. uk...

"norm" wrote in message
...
Sometime I get the feeling machines are actually living beings; they
take on a personality in my mind and if I take them down the dump I
feel a genuine twinge of sorrow thinking of the poor, once coveted
piece of consumer joy lying exposed and decaying in the wind rain and
cold.



Is it an upright versus cylinder debate in reality?

I have an old Hoover Constellation (Spherical thing) that I guess is as
useful as a Henry suck box. For carpets a Dyson DC07. I guide it over the
door threshold strips - I don't just ram it into them. It has never blocked.
I appreciate it is made of plastic and could break - it gets treated
accordingly. I fail to see how the lead can be a cause of problems - any
more than any other appliance - however a relative always wreck every lead
on all appliances due to winding them up from the plug end and then having a
tangle at the appliance end.


It's at this point, ladies and gentlemen, that we normally insert the
anecdote about the guy with the Constellation having the embarassing
trip to A&E wrapped in a blanket with his, err, pieces in a plastic
bag.


--

..andy

In article ,
"john" writes:

I have an old Hoover Constellation (Spherical thing) that I guess is as
useful as a Henry suck box. For carpets a Dyson DC07. I guide it over the
door threshold strips - I don't just ram it into them. It has never blocked.
I appreciate it is made of plastic and could break - it gets treated
accordingly. I fail to see how the lead can be a cause of problems - any
more than any other appliance - however a relative always wreck every lead
on all appliances due to winding them up from the plug end and then having a
tangle at the appliance end.

I like the Dyson - it is not a great piece of heavy engineering - it is a
domestic tool.

Spooky -- I also have a Hoover Constellation and a DC07...
Also never had any problem with either of them. Actually,
the Hoover Constellation got a new hose when it reached
30 years old IIRC -- it's now almost 50 years old and still
going strong.

--
Andrew Gabriel

On 4 Dec 2005 11:45:33 -0800, wrote:

The bloke Dyson is nothing but an industrial fraudster just like his
oppo Clive Sinclair. Anyone old enough to remember the crap Pulse
Width Modulation amplifiers that Sinclair brought out in the mid 1960's
will know that he was just a complete fraud.

My 23 year old Phillips vacuum cleaner will out-suck our Dyson. WE WERE
GIVEN THE DYSON for nowt.

Chris


This can't be true.

Everybody knows that "Nothing sucks like an Electrolux".


--

..andy

On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 16:56:29 +0000, norm wrote:

snip
What a pile of ****. £260 of anger and frustration ( I found the original
receipt the other day ). I'd rather change the odd bag than spent an hour
a month fixing the blasted thing. Every single piece that can get blocked
gets blocked. Every tiny piece of gravel gets jammed in the rotating
roller brush thingy, causing an appalling racket accompanied by the stench
of burning rubber as the belt overheats. Every time I empty it I end up
with crap going everywhere. There is no proper place for the mains lead
which ends up distorted and tangled and, as a result, always a foot
shorter than it needs to be for any given job. Every time it goes over a
near insurmountable obstacle, like the metal bit that joins the carpet
between two rooms, all the tools drop off.


One word: Miele. I had a VAX, which had quite a good suck, and was great
on hard floors, but when I moved, alas, useless on carpet. So that's
relegated to the garage, a job it excels at being reasonably solid. I've
hoovered broken glass of the grass with that thing. Bit useless at
shampooing though, I hire a Rug Doctor from the local Homebase for that
now.

Treated myself to a Miele Revolution PowerPlus 5000 over a year ago.
Bloody expensive for a hoover, but the electric beater head smacks the
living crap out of the carpet like no other. No perceptable dust emitted
from the exhaust either. The exhaust is clean enough to blow my computers
out, which is often thanks to the carpets.

What is impressive is apart doing every job it claims to with ease,
those people seem to think of everything. Bags are easy change and not at
all messy, if the beater jams, it cuts out cleanly with overheating, silly
little details are thought of too like the electric cord rewind
actually works, useful tools clip inside and the machine and
pipe-with-beater-head stand up stably for storage rather than collapsing
in a heap of bits.

snip

How do they get away with selling such a crock of ******** ? Does no-one
ever complain ? Are they just objects of desire for women and homesexuals
who keep their house so immaculate that the useless ****er never has to do
any actual work ?????

It looks pretty? And Mr Dyson does do a bit of a Branson with his
marketing, as in: I'm your lovable bloke next door type and I
wouldn't stiff you - don't I look like a nice bloke in my cardigan?

So stuff it. Off the dump, sorry Recycling Center, we go. Stone me,
there must have been 150 vacuum cleaners there and guess what ? I reckon
70% were Dysons. Either they have an incredible market penetration or
they really, genuinely are a total sack of ****.

Miele products are sodding expensive by anybody's standards, but when you
pitch the price over the number of years of expected service, it's likely
better than much of the competition. I'll have to come back in about 15
years to back that up mind, but I have reasonably good expectations.


So now I have a Henry. It sit there and smiles and could suck a ten
pound melon down a hosepipe. It even actually lifts the dirt of the
carpet. And it was just over a third of the price of the thing it
replaced.


My Dad's got one. Impressive suck and does what it says. Not as nice as a
Miele in the other respects mentioned above, but an honest piece of kit
which looks solid.

Tim

On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 16:56:29 +0000, norm
wrote:


So now I have a Henry. It sit there and smiles and could suck a ten
pound melon down a hosepipe. It even actually lifts the dirt of the
carpet. And it was just over a third of the price of the thing it
replaced.

The problem with a Henry is it looses it suction so quickly after you
change the bag.

Graham

On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 18:47:31 GMT, "mrcheerful
.." wrote:


My Dyson (DC03) has worked great with the one exception of the mains cable,
which I repaired at zero expense. never a blockage or problem, there was
also no smell ever got through until the hepa filter eventually got too
disgusting (after about 5 years.) which I then replaced.

My other half used to work in shop selling electrical goods.

They rarely had anyone complain about a faulty Dyson unless someone
had dropped it down a flight of stairs, smashed part of the casing and
then claimed it had developed a manufacturing fault.

My other half and I used to have a dust alergy. The alergy stopped
after we started using a Dyson with a heppa filter.

Graham

On 04 Dec 2005 19:56:12 GMT, andrew@a17 (Andrew Gabriel) wrote:


Spooky -- I also have a Hoover Constellation and a DC07...
Also never had any problem with either of them. Actually,
the Hoover Constellation got a new hose when it reached
30 years old IIRC -- it's now almost 50 years old and still
going strong.

I recall an Open University prog many years ago where they took 3
Hoover Constellations, attached them to a piece of hardboard and made
a hovercraft.

It floated!

Graham

On 4 Dec 2005 11:45:33 -0800, wrote:


My 23 year old Phillips vacuum cleaner will out-suck our Dyson.

It might do if you don't fit a bag.

Graham

Mindwipe wrote:
"norm" wrote in message
...
snip
only one i have found worse than dyson is kirby

's funny. We have a 13 year old kirby (not new when we got it) and all we've
needed to do is replace those rubber belts. A couple of years back we
thought it was time to 'treat' ourselves (is treat the right word when
talking about buying a vacuum cleaner?!) to a new cleaner. Got a Dyson
(don't recall the number), but it was over £200. Brought it back about 2
weeks later. I think the kirby's driven wheels makes it easier to use, or
maybe I'm just too weak.

Glenn Booth wrote:
Incidentally, Henry should work just fine without bags

You can get washable, re-usable cloth ones.

In article ,
writes:
I recall an Open University prog many years ago where they took 3
Hoover Constellations, attached them to a piece of hardboard and made
a hovercraft.

It floated!

Well, one of them by itself floats. I recall, probably around
age 6 or 7, playing with the thing in my parents' hall, giving
it a push and watching it glide down the hall floor. There was
probably a whole generation of kids who understood the basis
of the hovercraft by age 7, all due to the Hoover Constellation.

--
Andrew Gabriel

norm wrote:

SNIP

Based on 30 years in the cleaning business, I'd agree the Dyson is
overpriced, unreliable rubbish.

First of all, cyclonic vacuums have been around for 40+ years in industry,
nothing new there. But cyclones only dump the heavier stuff, stopping the
filter being blocked prematurely - they don't replace filters.

One of my customers runs a vacuum repair shop - he has a room full
(literally) of dead Dysons and loves them - they pay for his holidays every
year.

The kit thats ended up at the top of the heap for professional cleaners is
the Henry tub vac or the Sebo twin motor upright - both work a treat and are
as tough as old boots.

Dave

Hi,

"Andrew Gabriel" wrote in message
.. .
In article ,
writes:
I recall an Open University prog many years ago where they took 3
Hoover Constellations, attached them to a piece of hardboard and made
a hovercraft.

It floated!

Well, one of them by itself floats. I recall, probably around
age 6 or 7, playing with the thing in my parents' hall, giving
it a push and watching it glide down the hall floor. There was
probably a whole generation of kids who understood the basis
of the hovercraft by age 7, all due to the Hoover Constellation.

The Constellation taught me about gravity too. I gleefully pushed
my mother's along the landing at the age of four(ish), and it slid down
the stairs. I can't have been the only one, they were just too tempting.

Regards,
Glenn.

My folks had an original cylinder Hoover, late 1940's. Mother would
use the suction to clean the house, next week Dad would connect the
spray-gun on the back and spray the ceiling, walls whatever. These
days you either get a sucker or a blower and yet both are in the one
machine. The business acumen of today... "Maximise profit and f/suck
the customer".

Chris.

Andrew Gabriel wrote:

Well, one of them by itself floats. I recall, probably around
age 6 or 7, playing with the thing in my parents' hall, giving
it a push and watching it glide down the hall floor. There was
probably a whole generation of kids who understood the basis
of the hovercraft by age 7, all due to the Hoover Constellation.

true, my grandparents had one,


--
David Clark (age 51 1/4)

$message_body_include ="PLES RING IF AN RNSR IS REQIRD"

On 04 Dec 2005 21:39:24 GMT, (Andrew
Gabriel) wrote:

In article ,
writes:
I recall an Open University prog many years ago where they took 3
Hoover Constellations, attached them to a piece of hardboard and made
a hovercraft.

It floated!

Well, one of them by itself floats. I recall, probably around
age 6 or 7, playing with the thing in my parents' hall, giving
it a push and watching it glide down the hall floor. There was
probably a whole generation of kids who understood the basis
of the hovercraft by age 7, all due to the Hoover Constellation.

I always wished we'd had a Constellation when I was a kid. We had a
couple of boring upright cleaners and a cylinder one (only slightly
more interesting), and my grandma had a carpet sweeper (Ewbank?).

--
Frank Erskine

Andy Hall wrote:


It's at this point, ladies and gentlemen, that we normally insert the
anecdote about the guy with the Constellation having the embarassing
trip to A&E wrapped in a blanket with his, err, pieces in a plastic
bag.

I thought that was the Hpover Dustette?

Case 1--A 60-year-old man said that he was changing the plug of his Hoover
Dustette vacuum cleaner in the nude while his wife was out shopping. It
'turned itself on' and .....

Frank Erskine typed

and my grandma had a carpet sweeper (Ewbank?).

My gandmother had a Ewbank carpet sweeper. My mother had one too. When
it died, I replaced it with a Leifheit carpet sweeper from John Lewis.

--
Helen D. Vecht:
Edgware.

On Mon, 05 Dec 2005 00:23:49 GMT, John Stumbles
wrote:

Andy Hall wrote:


It's at this point, ladies and gentlemen, that we normally insert the
anecdote about the guy with the Constellation having the embarassing
trip to A&E wrapped in a blanket with his, err, pieces in a plastic
bag.

I thought that was the Hpover Dustette?

Case 1--A 60-year-old man said that he was changing the plug of his Hoover
Dustette vacuum cleaner in the nude while his wife was out shopping. It
'turned itself on' and .....

Case 1 was the guy with the belt sander......


--

..andy

On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 20:01:12 +0000, Tim S wrote:


Miele products are sodding expensive by anybody's standards, but when you
pitch the price over the number of years of expected service, it's likely
better than much of the competition. I'll have to come back in about 15
years to back that up mind, but I have reasonably good expectations.


So now I have a Henry. It sit there and smiles and could suck a ten
pound melon down a hosepipe. It even actually lifts the dirt of the
carpet. And it was just over a third of the price of the thing it
replaced.


My Dad's got one. Impressive suck and does what it says. Not as nice as a
Miele in the other respects mentioned above, but an honest piece of kit
which looks solid.

We have had a Henry for *ages* (basless) and it has dealt everything
we have poked it at .. from d-i-y building work to wasps (thank
goodness Marys not here any more). ;-)

But when prolonged working sorting / hoovering / dusting the workshop
etc the noise (only the single speed model) can get a bit heavy on the
tinitus.

So I took my trusty Radio Shack sound level meter into the local
electrical shop (they know me g) and went through the range with
them.

Loudest (by a long way), the Dyson range (we have a DC01 and it's used
as a plastic bag carrier) and quietest .. Miele 'Big cat and dog'
(now under our stairs) ;-)

I also have Vax in the loft for wet vacuming or if I want to suck up
whole house bricks (Henry only eats half house bricks). I think the
Vax can also 'blow' and would be good for running a bouncy castle!

I have probably 'repaired' (*mainly* the mains lead) more Dysons in
the last few years than every other make added up over my repairing
life (been fixing stuff since I was 8, (now 49)) ;-(

All the best ..

T i m

In article , Mindwipe
wrote:

good move
only one i have found worse than dyson is kirby

Well in that case, you didn't set the Kirby up correctly. Judging by your
posting "style" that doesn't suprise me.

--
AJL

On Mon, 05 Dec 2005 00:40:13 GMT, wrote:

On 4 Dec,
Frank Erskine wrote:

I always wished we'd had a Constellation when I was a kid. We had a couple
of boring upright cleaners and a cylinder one (only slightly more
interesting), and my grandma had a carpet sweeper (Ewbank?).

Me Mam had, and I had too. sold it on 25 years ago and regreted it as the
replacement wouldn't blow (Constellation would from underneath).

Don't I kno you from the shedde?

Aye!
--
Frank Erskine
Eschew Zrgevp

"Owain" wrote in message
...
Glenn Booth wrote:
The Constellation taught me about gravity too. I gleefully pushed
my mother's along the landing at the age of four(ish), and it slid
down
the stairs. I can't have been the only one, they were just too
tempting.

I tried riding a Spacehopper down the stairs.

Once.

That could explain a lot)

Frank Erskine typed


On Mon, 05 Dec 2005 00:40:13 GMT, wrote:

On 4 Dec,
Frank Erskine wrote:

I always wished we'd had a Constellation when I was a kid. We had a
couple
of boring upright cleaners and a cylinder one (only slightly more
interesting), and my grandma had a carpet sweeper (Ewbank?).

Me Mam had, and I had too. sold it on 25 years ago and regreted it as the
replacement wouldn't blow (Constellation would from underneath).

Don't I kno you from the shedde?

Aye!

waves & MTAAW...

Helen, happy with Henry

--
Helen D. Vecht:
Edgware.

In article ,
wrote:
My other half used to work in shop selling electrical goods.

They rarely had anyone complain about a faulty Dyson unless someone
had dropped it down a flight of stairs, smashed part of the casing and
then claimed it had developed a manufacturing fault.

My local Currys has a vast display of Dyson spares - and not just belts
and bags. Seems to me these must sell otherwise they'd not be stocked.

--
*All men are idiots, and I married their King.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

What an amazing coincidence. We replaced our Dyson with a Henry too; a
million times better and as you say about 1/3 of the price.

The only thing I'd add to the list of reasons for not buying a Dyson is
that they make so much noise you need to wear ear protectors.

Complete lump of junk

Mike

In article .com,
mike wrote:
What an amazing coincidence. We replaced our Dyson with a Henry too; a
million times better and as you say about 1/3 of the price.

When I needed a new vacuum - mainly for fitted carpets - I chose the then
Which best buy. A Panasonic. It's about 10 years old and only needed the
normal disposables. Next door who raves about Dyson has had three new ones
in that time.

I've got better things to spend my money on than odd looking Hoovers...

--
*A cubicle is just a padded cell without a door.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.