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Avenue Supplies using uk.d-i-y posts in their advertising
I just did a google for some words in one of my posts, and came up
with this outfit, Avenue Supplies, ripping off selected uk.d-i-y posts for their advertising. http://www.avenuesupplies.co.uk/news...x.php?id=39730 Up and at em. Phil |
On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 16:38:51 GMT, Phil Addison
wrote: | I just did a google for some words in one of my posts, and came up | with this outfit, Avenue Supplies, ripping off selected uk.d-i-y posts | for their advertising. | | http://www.avenuesupplies.co.uk/news...x.php?id=39730 | | Up and at em. It does credit uk.D-I-Y on each page, so they could plead "Fair Dealing" UK.D-I-Y news feed brought to you by Avenue Supplies, Plumbing and Central heating professionals Ealing London W13 Avenue Supplies is not responsible for the views, language or any other content expressed within these groups -- Dave Fawthrop dave hyphenologist co uk The London suicide bombers killed innocent commuters. Animal rights terrorists and activists kill innocent patients. |
"Phil Addison" wrote in message ... I just did a google for some words in one of my posts, and came up with this outfit, Avenue Supplies, ripping off selected uk.d-i-y posts for their advertising. http://www.avenuesupplies.co.uk/news...x.php?id=39730 Up and at em. Phil That's just a link to a web interface to this group! as they say "UK.D-I-Y news feed brought to you by Avenue Supplies," L. |
On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 16:38:51 GMT, Phil Addison
wrote: | I just did a google for some words in one of my posts, and came up | with this outfit, Avenue Supplies, ripping off selected uk.d-i-y posts | for their advertising. | | http://www.avenuesupplies.co.uk/news...x.php?id=39730 | | Up and at em. I also found If you need immediate plumbing or building maintenance services, please contact us at 020 8997 5071 alternatively we are available in person during regular hours at our store. For general questions on how to get a particular task done we recommend you visit the U.K-D.I.Y newsgroup chances are your question may have already been asked and answered ! On their contact us page. I have forbidden them to use my posts on their web site. we will see what happens. -- Dave Fawthrop dave hyphenologist co uk The London suicide bombers killed innocent commuters. Animal rights terrorists and activists kill innocent patients. |
In article , Rob Morley
wrote: Time for lots of new threads with things like like "Avenue Supplies are ******s" in the subject? Not necessary, since they are obviously just taking this as a feed (rather than selectively lifting copy) and this thread is shown as I write this. If there is a gripe it's with "Computer Consulting People" who created the site - I suspect that Avenue Supplies (like more than a few people) have handed over a pile of dosh to some smooth talking web design firm without appreciating what's what. From CCP's website FAQ: "I need "stuff" but not sure what it is We can help. Our team of Analysts, designers, architects and project managers have experience second to none Why would I use you when I can get the project completed for next to nothing. My son/daughters friend is a whiz with computers and told me it could be done in a weekend. Failing that I can always higher a company from asia I hear its cheaper. Good luck." -- Tony Bryer SDA UK 'Software to build on' http://www.sda.co.uk Free SEDBUK boiler database browser http://www.sda.co.uk/qsedbuk.htm [Latest version QSEDBUK 1.10 released 4 April 2005] |
"Phil Addison" wrote in message
... I just did a google for some words in one of my posts, and came up with this outfit, Avenue Supplies, ripping off selected uk.d-i-y posts for their advertising. http://www.avenuesupplies.co.uk/news...x.php?id=39730 Up and at em. Hardly a crime. They credit uk.diy. It would be different if they were claiming it to be their FAQ. It's not as if they are misleading anyone. |
On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 16:38:51 UTC, Phil Addison
wrote: I just did a google for some words in one of my posts, and came up with this outfit, Avenue Supplies, ripping off selected uk.d-i-y posts for their advertising. http://www.avenuesupplies.co.uk/news...x.php?id=39730 Up and at em. Right now, the latest thread on there is this one! -- The information contained in this post is copyright the poster, and specifically may not be published in, or used by http://laminateflooring.oncloud8.com |
Dave Fawthrop wrote:
I have forbidden them to use my posts on their web site. Why? They seem quite open about it. They've given their CORGIs reg. no., they're afiliated to the BHF, they seem DIY orientated, they give tips, teh are just offering one of those webby interfaces to uk.d-i-y, which they specifically mention? What's the problem? |
On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 17:46:17 +0100, in uk.d-i-y Dave Fawthrop
wrote: On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 16:38:51 GMT, Phil Addison wrote: | I just did a google for some words in one of my posts, and came up | with this outfit, Avenue Supplies, ripping off selected uk.d-i-y posts | for their advertising. | | http://www.avenuesupplies.co.uk/news...x.php?id=39730 | | Up and at em. It does credit uk.D-I-Y on each page, so they could plead "Fair Dealing" The posts are selected, whether automatically or manually, to draw attention to the hardware they display around the posts. Thus a post about a Honeywell CM-67 is surrounded by related items that are for sale. UK.D-I-Y news feed brought to you by Avenue Supplies, Plumbing and Central heating professionals Ealing London W13 Avenue Supplies is not responsible for the views, language or any other content expressed within these groups They are not providing a news feed - they are taking selected messages and embedding them in their sales pages. Phil (c) Copyright 2005 This Usenet message is Copyright by the author. It may not be re-published in any medium, including electronic, CD-ROM, or database, packaged with any commercial product, or published in print, without the explicit, written, permission of the author. The copyright of any included material belongs to the original author. Avenue Supplies, Plumbing and Central Heating Professionals, of Ealing, London W13 are expressly forbidden to re-publish this message. Archiving by Google is permitted. |
On 26 Sep 2005 17:05:57 GMT, in uk.d-i-y "Bob Eager"
wrote: On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 16:38:51 UTC, Phil Addison wrote: I just did a google for some words in one of my posts, and came up with this outfit, Avenue Supplies, ripping off selected uk.d-i-y posts for their advertising. http://www.avenuesupplies.co.uk/news...x.php?id=39730 Up and at em. Right now, the latest thread on there is this one! You're looking somewhere else Bob. The link above is just one example of a selected post used to advertise their products. The 'latest post' features elsewhere on the site. Phil (c) Copyright 2005 This Usenet message is Copyright by the author. It may not be re-published in any medium, including electronic, CD-ROM, or database, packaged with any commercial product, or published in print, without the explicit, written, permission of the author. The copyright of any included material belongs to the original author. Avenue Supplies, Plumbing and Central Heating Professionals, of Ealing, London W13 are expressly forbidden to re-publish this message. Archiving by Google is permitted. Phil The uk.d-i-y FAQ is at http://www.diyfaq.org.uk/ The Google uk.d-i-y archive is at http://tinyurl.com/65kwq e-mai1: editor (a t) diyfaq (stop) o r g (stop) uk = make obvious corrections |
"Dave Fawthrop" wrote in message ... snip I have forbidden them to use my posts on their web site. we will see what happens. I doubt, legally, you can - Usenet being in the public domain. Not that I'm defending their actions, morally they are in the wrong, even if they are not doing anything illegal. |
On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 17:21:56 UTC, Phil Addison
wrote: On 26 Sep 2005 17:05:57 GMT, in uk.d-i-y "Bob Eager" wrote: On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 16:38:51 UTC, Phil Addison wrote: I just did a google for some words in one of my posts, and came up with this outfit, Avenue Supplies, ripping off selected uk.d-i-y posts for their advertising. http://www.avenuesupplies.co.uk/news...x.php?id=39730 Up and at em. Right now, the latest thread on there is this one! You're looking somewhere else Bob. The link above is just one example of a selected post used to advertise their products. The 'latest post' features elsewhere on the site. I was just looking at the list down the left hand side. At the time, the above link showed the top item of the list as this thread... It now has my 'forbidden' thread there too.. -- The information contained in this post is copyright the poster, and specifically may not be published in, or used by Avenue Supplies, http://avenuesupplies.co.uk |
On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 17:15:59 GMT, Phil Addison
wrote: | (c) Copyright 2005 Should be (C) Phil Addison 2005 | This Usenet message is Copyright by the author. It may not be | re-published in any medium, including electronic, CD-ROM, or database, | packaged with any commercial product, or published in print, without the | explicit, written, permission of the author. The copyright of any | included material belongs to the original author. | | Avenue Supplies, Plumbing and Central Heating Professionals, of Ealing, | London W13 are expressly forbidden to re-publish this message. Absolutely anything one writes is copyright, but it does no harm reminding people -- Dave Fawthrop dave hyphenologist co uk The London suicide bombers killed innocent commuters. Animal rights terrorists and activists kill innocent patients. |
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Chris Bacon wrote:
Why? They seem quite open about it. They've given their CORGIs reg. no., they're afiliated to the BHF, they seem DIY orientated, they give tips, teh are just offering one of those webby interfaces to uk.d-i-y, which they specifically mention? What's the problem? The issue is this. The primary reason for including uk.d-i-y material on their site is to boost site content, and therefore improve search engine performance for their site, and specifically for their product pages. Many of us who post here have a problem with the material we write being used for commercial gain without our consent - google does it, but google also a) allows you to opt out, and b) provides a very useful archive in exchange. -- Grunff |
"Rob Morley" wrote in message t... In article ws.net, LID says... "Dave Fawthrop" wrote in message ... snip I have forbidden them to use my posts on their web site. we will see what happens. I doubt, legally, you can - Usenet being in the public domain. You own the copyright on anything that you post to Usenet - just because it's widely distributed and easy to copy and paste doesn't mean that people can republish it in a different format without your permission. It's not quite the same, you are placing it (in effect) on a public bill board - you can't stop people copying it - especially if they have as much right to the bill boards content as anyone else. Morally, it's wrong what Avenue Supplies is doing and I'm certainly not trying to condone their activity, but it's not illegal as they are giving due credit and are not passing off the content as their own. What you and others are suggesting is a bit like trying to deign nntp access to a disliked ISP - or even Google archive.... |
Phil Addison wrote:
Phil (c) Copyright 2005 This Usenet message is Copyright by the author. It may not be re-published in any medium, including electronic, CD-ROM, or database, packaged with any commercial product, or published in print, without the explicit, written, permission of the author. The copyright of any included material belongs to the original author. If you think that sort of rubbish is OK, you must believe in "disclaimers", too. If it *was* true, which thankfully it is not, then you'd have rendered the whole of Usenet unworkable. Avenue Supplies, Plumbing and Central Heating Professionals, of Ealing, London W13 are expressly forbidden to re-publish this message. Petty, and pettish, IMO. Archiving by Google is permitted. Yeah, right. What about the thousands of other newsfeeds worldwide. Refer back to my first comment, above. |
On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 20:49:17 +0100, Chris Bacon
wrote: | Phil Addison wrote: | | Phil | | (c) Copyright 2005 | This Usenet message is Copyright by the author. It may not be | re-published in any medium, including electronic, CD-ROM, or database, | packaged with any commercial product, or published in print, without the | explicit, written, permission of the author. The copyright of any | included material belongs to the original author. | | If you think that sort of rubbish is OK, you must believe in | "disclaimers", too. If it *was* true, which thankfully it is | not, then you'd have rendered the whole of Usenet unworkable. At limit Phil is *legally* totally correct, one can do whatever you like with your copyright work, which includes all usenet postings. -- Dave Fawthrop dave hyphenologist co uk The London suicide bombers killed innocent commuters. Animal rights terrorists and activists kill innocent patients. |
In message , Phil Addison
writes I just did a google for some words in one of my posts, and came up with this outfit, Avenue Supplies, ripping off selected uk.d-i-y posts for their advertising. http://www.avenuesupplies.co.uk/news...x.php?id=39730 I get a blank page -- geoff |
In message , Dave Fawthrop
writes On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 16:38:51 GMT, Phil Addison wrote: | I just did a google for some words in one of my posts, and came up | with this outfit, Avenue Supplies, ripping off selected uk.d-i-y posts | for their advertising. | | http://www.avenuesupplies.co.uk/news...x.php?id=39730 | | Up and at em. It does credit uk.D-I-Y on each page, so they could plead "Fair Dealing" UK.D-I-Y news feed brought to you by Avenue Supplies, Plumbing and Central heating professionals Ealing London W13 Avenue Supplies is not responsible for the views, language or any other content expressed within these groups It doesn't matter, they're a commercial set up prolly trying to attract business via their website from uk.d-i-y Posts are copyright I still can't see anything but a blank page though The main page works though -- geoff |
Dave Fawthrop wrote:
Chris Bacon wrote: | Phil Addison wrote: | | Phil | | (c) Copyright 2005 | This Usenet message is Copyright by the author. It may not be | re-published in any medium, including electronic, CD-ROM, or database, | packaged with any commercial product, or published in print, without the | explicit, written, permission of the author. The copyright of any | included material belongs to the original author. | | If you think that sort of rubbish is OK, you must believe in | "disclaimers", too. If it *was* true, which thankfully it is | not, then you'd have rendered the whole of Usenet unworkable. At limit Phil is *legally* totally correct, one can do whatever you like with your copyright work, which includes all usenet postings. Righto, so where does that leave Usenet , then? P.S. Do *you* believe in "disclaimers"? |
On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 20:26:55 UTC, raden wrote:
In message , Phil Addison writes I just did a google for some words in one of my posts, and came up with this outfit, Avenue Supplies, ripping off selected uk.d-i-y posts for their advertising. http://www.avenuesupplies.co.uk/news...x.php?id=39730 I get a blank page Yes, it's started to do that. Wonder if it's a knee jerk to limit the damage? -- The information contained in this post is copyright the poster, and specifically may not be published in, or used by Avenue Supplies, http://avenuesupplies.co.uk |
Bob Eager wrote:
raden wrote: Phil Addison writes I just did a google for some words in one of my posts, and came up with this outfit, Avenu Supplie, ripping off selected uk.d-i-y posts for their advertising. http://www.avenuesupplie.co.uk/news2/index.php?id=39730 I get a blank page Yes, it's started to do that. Wonder if it's a knee jerk to limit the damage? "It" started to do that some time ago. It's possibly a reaction to certain "maiden aunt" behaviour exhibited elsewhere. |
"Dave Fawthrop" wrote in message ... On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 20:49:17 +0100, Chris Bacon wrote: | Phil Addison wrote: | | Phil | | (c) Copyright 2005 | This Usenet message is Copyright by the author. It may not be | re-published in any medium, including electronic, CD-ROM, or database, | packaged with any commercial product, or published in print, without the | explicit, written, permission of the author. The copyright of any | included material belongs to the original author. | | If you think that sort of rubbish is OK, you must believe in | "disclaimers", too. If it *was* true, which thankfully it is | not, then you'd have rendered the whole of Usenet unworkable. At limit Phil is *legally* totally correct, one can do whatever you like with your copyright work, which includes all usenet postings. If that is correct you have just killed Usenet and more importantly the nntp protocol... |
In message , Rob Morley
writes In article , says... I just did a google for some words in one of my posts, and came up with this outfit, Avenue Supplies, ripping off selected uk.d-i-y posts for their advertising. http://www.avenuesupplies.co.uk/news...x.php?id=39730 Up and at em. Time for lots of new threads with things like like "Avenue Supplies are ******s" in the subject? Or rather "This post is copyright and is intended for the uk.d-i-y newsgroup only. It may not be reproduced in any way, shape or form by Avenue supplies" I also notice that they are using those really crap Abcot universal fans While on the subject, what are peoples' thoughts on diybanter ? -- geoff |
"raden" wrote in message ... In message , Phil Addison writes I just did a google for some words in one of my posts, and came up with this outfit, Avenue Supplies, ripping off selected uk.d-i-y posts for their advertising. http://www.avenuesupplies.co.uk/news...x.php?id=39730 I get a blank page So do I now, the threads are listed on the home page but all resolve to blank pages... |
raden wrote:
Rob Morley writes: "This post is copyright and is intended for the uk.d-i-y newsgroup only. It may not be reproduced in any way, shape or form by Avenue supplies" While on the subject, what are peoples' thoughts on diybanter ? Complain about it. Also, while you're at it, complain about any service for which people have to pay anything to access Usenet posts in any way that each individual posting has not expressly permitted. After that, please complain about each and every free provider. "We'll soon scotch this malarky!". (C)[1]. [1] N.B. This mark has absolutely no significance. |
In message , Grunff
writes Chris Bacon wrote: Why? They seem quite open about it. They've given their CORGIs reg. no., they're afiliated to the BHF, they seem DIY orientated, they give tips, teh are just offering one of those webby interfaces to uk.d-i-y, which they specifically mention? What's the problem? The issue is this. The primary reason for including uk.d-i-y material on their site is to boost site content, and therefore improve search engine performance for their site, and specifically for their product pages. Many of us who post here have a problem with the material we write being used for commercial gain without our consent - google does it, but google also a) allows you to opt out, and b) provides a very useful archive in exchange. Succinctly put -- geoff |
On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 20:49:17 +0100, in uk.d-i-y Chris Bacon
wrote: Phil Addison wrote: Phil (c) Copyright 2005 This Usenet message is Copyright by the author. It may not be re-published in any medium, including electronic, CD-ROM, or database, packaged with any commercial product, or published in print, without the explicit, written, permission of the author. The copyright of any included material belongs to the original author. If you think that sort of rubbish is OK, you must believe in "disclaimers", too. If it *was* true, which thankfully it is not, You clearly have never looked into copyright law and it's implications on the net. Disclaimers are an entirely different matter. Here's a few links to get you started if you want to avoid making yourself look a fool next time. Especially the first two. 10 Big Myths about copyright explained http://www.templetons.com/brad/copymyths.html A brief intro to copyright http://www.templetons.com/brad/copyright.html http://www.ariadne.ac.uk/issue5/copyright/ http://www.leeds.ac.uk/rights/links.htm http://usgenweb.org/volunteers/copyright.shtml http://www.cyndislist.com/copyrite.htm http://publaw.com/cfaqs.html http://www.copyright.gov/ http://www.rexx.com/~jaguar/copyright.html#TO then you'd have rendered the whole of Usenet unworkable. Wow - I never knew I had such power. Phil (c) Copyright 2005 This Usenet message is Copyright by the author. It may not be re-published in any medium, including electronic, CD-ROM, or database, packaged with any commercial product, or published in print, without the explicit, written, permission of the author. The copyright of any included material belongs to the original author. Avenue Supplies, Plumbing and Central Heating Professionals, of Ealing, London W13 are expressly forbidden to re-publish this message. Archiving by Google is permitted. |
":::Jerry::::" wrote in message eenews.net... "Dave Fawthrop" wrote in message ... On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 20:49:17 +0100, Chris Bacon wrote: | Phil Addison wrote: | | Phil | | (c) Copyright 2005 | This Usenet message is Copyright by the author. It may not be | re-published in any medium, including electronic, CD-ROM, or database, | packaged with any commercial product, or published in print, without the | explicit, written, permission of the author. The copyright of any | included material belongs to the original author. | | If you think that sort of rubbish is OK, you must believe in | "disclaimers", too. If it *was* true, which thankfully it is | not, then you'd have rendered the whole of Usenet unworkable. At limit Phil is *legally* totally correct, one can do whatever you like with your copyright work, which includes all usenet postings. If that is correct you have just killed Usenet and more importantly the nntp protocol... How so? -- Richard Sampson mail me at richard at olifant d-ot co do-t uk |
"Phil Addison" wrote in message ... I just did a google for some words in one of my posts, and came up with this outfit, Avenue Supplies, ripping off selected uk.d-i-y posts for their advertising. http://www.avenuesupplies.co.uk/news...x.php?id=39730 Up and at em. Phil So much for the 'friendly' in their disclaimer: ** Parts of this website contain information gathered from the UK.D-I-Y newsgroup. Whilst we make our best effort to sanitise the content from this group of which we consider to be one of the most informative and friendly groups on UUNET its very hard to provide a "catch all" when your dealing with the building trade ;-) |
On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 21:32:35 +0100, in uk.d-i-y Chris Bacon
wrote: Dave Fawthrop wrote: Chris Bacon wrote: | Phil Addison wrote: | | Phil | | (c) Copyright 2005 | This Usenet message is Copyright by the author. It may not be | re-published in any medium, including electronic, CD-ROM, or database, | packaged with any commercial product, or published in print, without the | explicit, written, permission of the author. The copyright of any | included material belongs to the original author. | | If you think that sort of rubbish is OK, you must believe in | "disclaimers", too. If it *was* true, which thankfully it is | not, then you'd have rendered the whole of Usenet unworkable. At limit Phil is *legally* totally correct, one can do whatever you like with your copyright work, which includes all usenet postings. Righto, so where does that leave Usenet , then? Alive and very well thank you. P.S. Do *you* believe in "disclaimers"? Oh dear, you are confused. A copyright says 'this is mine and if you want to copy it you have to negotiate with me'. A disclaimer says 'even if I did write this - and I might not have - you can't touch me for any consequences to you if you act on it'. I take it you are referring to blanket disclaimers, appended by company servers to their staff email. In all probability they are valueless, but that has yet to be tested in law. Phil (c) Copyright 2005 This Usenet message is Copyright by the author. It may not be re-published in any medium, including electronic, CD-ROM, or database, packaged with any commercial product, or published in print, without the explicit, written, permission of the author. The copyright of any included material belongs to the original author. Avenue Supplies, Plumbing and Central Heating Professionals, of Ealing, London W13 are expressly forbidden to re-publish this message. Archiving by Google is permitted. |
On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 18:39:26 +0100, in uk.d-i-y ":::Jerry::::"
wrote: "Dave Fawthrop" wrote in message ... snip I have forbidden them to use my posts on their web site. we will see what happens. I doubt, legally, you can - Usenet being in the public domain. Not that I'm defending their actions, morally they are in the wrong, even if they are not doing anything illegal. Morally, it looks as if they have taken our little protest to heart and switched that bit of the site off, while they think about it. Perhaps they haven't realised that they've frozen their feed with the top post still displayed right in the middle of their home page saying "AVENUE SUPPLIES IS CRAP!". Phil (c) Avenue Supplies have my permission to publish this message :-) |
On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 19:23:10 +0100, in uk.d-i-y Rob Morley
wrote: In article ws.net, LID says... "Dave Fawthrop" wrote in message ... snip I have forbidden them to use my posts on their web site. we will see what happens. I doubt, legally, you can - Usenet being in the public domain. You own the copyright on anything that you post to Usenet - just because it's widely distributed and easy to copy and paste doesn't mean that people can republish it in a different format without your permission. Make that "... doesn't mean that people can republish it AT ALL without your permission." Phil |
On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 20:29:37 +0100, in uk.d-i-y ":::Jerry::::"
wrote: It's not quite the same, you are placing it (in effect) on a public bill board - you can't stop people copying it - especially if they have as much right to the bill boards content as anyone else. Morally, it's wrong what Avenue Supplies is doing and I'm certainly not trying to condone their activity, but it's not illegal as they are giving due credit and are not passing off the content as their own. What you and others are suggesting is a bit like trying to deign nntp access to a disliked ISP - or even Google archive.... No, it's not illegal in the sense they can go to jail for it, but copyright is a civil offence which means you can sue them for any losses you incur or any profit they make from using your work without permission, plus expenses. It's the last bit that usually scares infringers off - lawyers are VERY expensive. Phil |
On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 23:23:01 +0100, in uk.d-i-y "Suz"
wrote: "Phil Addison" wrote in message ... I just did a google for some words in one of my posts, and came up with this outfit, Avenue Supplies, ripping off selected uk.d-i-y posts for their advertising. http://www.avenuesupplies.co.uk/news...x.php?id=39730 Up and at em. Phil So much for the 'friendly' in their disclaimer: ** Parts of this website contain information gathered from the UK.D-I-Y newsgroup. Whilst we make our best effort to sanitise the content from this group of which we consider to be one of the most informative and friendly groups on UUNET its very hard to provide a "catch all" when your dealing with the building trade ;-) You should see us when we're really annoyed :) Phil |
On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 20:24:10 +0100, in uk.d-i-y Grunff
wrote: Chris Bacon wrote: Why? They seem quite open about it. They've given their CORGIs reg. no., they're afiliated to the BHF, they seem DIY orientated, they give tips, teh are just offering one of those webby interfaces to uk.d-i-y, which they specifically mention? What's the problem? The issue is this. The primary reason for including uk.d-i-y material on their site is to boost site content, and therefore improve search engine performance for their site, and specifically for their product pages. Many of us who post here have a problem with the material we write being used for commercial gain without our consent - google does it, but google also a) allows you to opt out, and b) provides a very useful archive in exchange. Indeed, and in so doing Google made a commercial coup second only to eBay. There was a good documentary about eBay last night. Phil |
On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 22:26:17 +0100, Owain
wrote: Moreover, even if you have waived your copyright, you have *not* waived your moral rights. Which under UK copyright law are barely visible anyway. There's no court in the world going to support a claim of "breach of copyright" over a Usenet posting. You certainly do retain the copyright and the moral rights, but the implied licence to redistribute anything on Usenet is enormous. In no way can Avenue Supplies, or even the accursed DIYBanter, be said to be infringing copyright on a posting you've deliberately made to a worldwide distributed store-and-forward system like Usenet. |
In article ,
says... On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 19:23:10 +0100, in uk.d-i-y Rob Morley wrote: In article ws.net, LID says... "Dave Fawthrop" wrote in message ... snip I have forbidden them to use my posts on their web site. we will see what happens. I doubt, legally, you can - Usenet being in the public domain. You own the copyright on anything that you post to Usenet - just because it's widely distributed and easy to copy and paste doesn't mean that people can republish it in a different format without your permission. Make that "... doesn't mean that people can republish it AT ALL without your permission." What I was getting at is that Usenet works by forwarding posts, and you couldn't reasonably object to anyone anywhere carrying this newsgroup unaltered on their server, but as soon as they transfer it to e.g. a web page or a printed document they are effectively republishing it. |
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