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Tiny second loo!
Hi I want to install a downstairs toilet and sink in a horrendously
small space in my hall. Anyone got any good ideas? I have seen corner sinks and even corner loos to buy - anyone had any experience of these? We cannot extend out the front as prev owners already had porch fitted and did not make the steel suport long enough make it bigger to accom a loo next to it. (House is a 1932 semi). If we were to fit a bigger one will cost =A3=A3=A3=A3=A3's and we would need planning permission which is taking 9 months min in our area due to backlogs. Also am I right in thinking we would only need building regs to fit cloakroom? Thanks Louise |
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Its always worth giving your local council building section a ring as
they are the best people to confirm if you need an inspection. Based on the information I received when discussing a recent central heating matter, you would need to notify them as you will be connecting to the waste system in the house. Malcolm wrote: Hi I want to install a downstairs toilet and sink in a horrendously small space in my hall. Anyone got any good ideas? I have seen corner sinks and even corner loos to buy - anyone had any experience of these? We cannot extend out the front as prev owners already had porch fitted and did not make the steel suport long enough make it bigger to accom a loo next to it. (House is a 1932 semi). If we were to fit a bigger one will cost £££££'s and we would need planning permission which is taking 9 months min in our area due to backlogs. Also am I right in thinking we would only need building regs to fit cloakroom? Thanks Louise |
On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 17:07:29 GMT, Rick wrote:
You can also get sinks you set into the wall, which may work for you. I've yet to use one of those without getting water all over the place or touching the basin because it is just to small to take both hands. Not to mention the tap outlet being to close to the side to allow proper rinsing. Waste of space IMHO. One with a bowl at least 12" across and 8" deep with water supplied from above and centrally might be better but not from a normal tap. -- Cheers Dave. pam is missing e-mail |
wrote in message oups.com... Hi I want to install a downstairs toilet and sink in a horrendously small space in my hall. Anyone got any good ideas? I have seen corner sinks and even corner loos to buy - anyone had any experience of these? We cannot extend out the front as prev owners already had porch fitted and did not make the steel suport long enough make it bigger to accom a loo next to it. (House is a 1932 semi). If we were to fit a bigger one will cost £££££'s and we would need planning permission which is taking 9 months min in our area due to backlogs. Also am I right in thinking we would only need building regs to fit cloakroom? Thanks Louise Tell us how big your space is and we might have a better if it is possible. I had a similar problem. There are advised distances you know. In front of the front rim of the loo, 2 clear feet: to either side of the loo centreline, 1 foot ( this allows you to set the loo centreline 1 foot from one of the walls, and create a bit of space on the other wall for a basin. Also recommended is 2'4" behind the lip of the basin to the opposite wall to allow stooping to the basin, and 22 inches of elbow room either side of the basin centreline. In fact I couldn't meet these recommendations completely with regards to the basin anyway, but my feeling is that as long as as you can get the required clearances on the loo, then just arrange the basin so that you can use it comfortably and it doesn't obstruct the loo. In the end I used a slimline plastic cistern behind the loo ( boxed in, but you could create space if necessary by going for a cistern mounted some distance up the wall, if you like retro! My basin was mounted on the wall forward of the loo. The loo was over to the left wall, the basin mounted on the right. The basin is only 10.5"x14.5". The floor space was 37"x47". Not ideal, but works well enough. Andy. |
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On 23 Sep 2005 09:58:05 -0700, a particular chimpanzee named
randomly hit the keyboard and produced: Hi I want to install a downstairs toilet... we would only need building regs to fit cloakroom? Not 100% sure about "only" (99% sure though), but certainly Building Regulations will apply to the extension and alteration of a drainage system. Building Notice will suffice (in Eng & Wales), and the relevant bits are Parts F, G and H. -- Hugo Nebula "If no-one on the internet wants a piece of this, just how far from the pack have you strayed?" |
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On 24 Sep, "Dave Liquorice" wrote: On 23 Sep 2005 18:09:06 -0700, wrote: No doubt you can do it, after all the smallest possible loo is only 4" wide - just an open pipe end. Fine for solids, most people can aim that well but liquids? Squat toilets have a channel extending about 9" in front of the hole for those with places for your feet each side. After A good explosive curry and a few pints? The simple solution is a wet room. No need for a sink either, or toilet, so it could be quite small without trouble. |
On 24 Sep 2005 17:40:40 GMT, Ian Stirling wrote:
Fine for solids, most people can aim that well but liquids? Squat toilets have a channel extending about 9" in front of the hole for those with places for your feet each side. After A good explosive curry and a few pints? I didn't suffer any aim problems in Thailand when I had the trots. Remember you are only inches from the pipe opening... The simple solution is a wet room. No need for a sink either, or toilet, so it could be quite small without trouble. Yeah but how do you wash your hands from the (cold only) tap 3' up the wall with soaking your feet and/or trousers? A small basin with a waste pipe that empties on the the floor and thus rinses the channel and pipe a bit is much better. -- Cheers Dave. pam is missing e-mail |
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