....shoemaking?

Mary

On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 20:05:42 +0100, Mary Fisher wrote:

...shoemaking?

German F1 racing driver. Several times world champion. Drives for Ferrari.

HTH.
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Hugh Jampton

Mary Fisher wrote:
...shoemaking?

Mary

I watched a programme on Sky about making safety boots. Fascinating, it was,
but I dare say it's not what you're after, Mary.

Si

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On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 20:05:42 +0100, Mary Fisher wrote:

...shoemaking?

German F1 racing driver. Several times world champion. Drives for Ferrari.

HTH.

No.
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Regards,

Hugh Jampton

"Mungo "two sheds" Toadfoot" wrote in message
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Mary Fisher wrote:
...shoemaking?

Mary

I watched a programme on Sky about making safety boots. Fascinating, it
was, but I dare say it's not what you're after, Mary.

What did you learn about it?

Mary

Si

You're just talking cobblers now! :-)

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...shoemaking?

Mary

"Dave" wrote in message
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You're just talking cobblers now! :-)

No, a cobbler is a shoe repairman, not a maker.

Rrasppppppp!

:-)

Mary

Mary Fisher wrote:

|| No, a cobbler is a shoe repairman, not a maker.

That would be a Cordwainer.

Dave

Mary Fisher wrote:
"Mungo "two sheds" Toadfoot" wrote in message
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Mary Fisher wrote:
...shoemaking?

Mary

I watched a programme on Sky about making safety boots. Fascinating,
it was, but I dare say it's not what you're after, Mary.

What did you learn about it?


It wasn't in the greatest detail but it showed all the processes from
tanning the hides to vulcanizing the sole to the boot. Mostly by machine of
course.

Si

Mary Fisher wrote:
"Dave" wrote in message
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You're just talking cobblers now! :-)

No, a cobbler is a shoe repairman, not a maker.

Rrasppppppp!

:-)

Mary

I think you'll find he/she makes shoes if asked. :-P

"Mary Fisher" wrote in message
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...shoemaking?

http://www.marywalesloomis.com/index.html

http://home.earthlink.net/~lizjones429/shoe-advice.html

http://www.personal.utulsa.edu/~marc...e/SHOEHOME.HTM



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...shoemaking?

Yes

I am from Kettering

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geoff

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"Dave" wrote in message
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You're just talking cobblers now! :-)

No, a cobbler is a shoe repairman, not a maker.

Rrasppppppp!

:-)

Mary


Also known as a Cordwainer

"Hugh Jampton" wrote in message
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On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 20:05:42 +0100, Mary Fisher wrote:

...shoemaking?

German F1 racing driver. Several times world champion. Drives for Ferrari.

HTH.
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Hugh Jampton

Cobblers to that!

That was my _Last_ job!

Do Cobblers make shoes to last?

et.al.

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Brian

"Mungo "two sheds" Toadfoot" wrote in message
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Mary Fisher wrote:
"Mungo "two sheds" Toadfoot" wrote in message
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Mary Fisher wrote:
...shoemaking?

Mary

I watched a programme on Sky about making safety boots. Fascinating,
it was, but I dare say it's not what you're after, Mary.

What did you learn about it?


It wasn't in the greatest detail but it showed all the processes from
tanning the hides to vulcanizing the sole to the boot. Mostly by machine
of course.

It would have been interesting but, as you surmise, not what I was after.
Thanks anyway,

Mary

Si

"Michael Mcneil" wrote in message
...shoemaking?

http://www.marywalesloomis.com/index.html

Gee!

http://home.earthlink.net/~lizjones429/shoe-advice.html

Some useful stuff, thank you.

http://www.personal.utulsa.edu/~marc...e/SHOEHOME.HTM

Already known but thanks anyway.

But you don't know anything about it yourself ?

Mary

"raden" wrote in message
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In message , Mary Fisher
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...shoemaking?

Yes

I am from Kettering

OK, Dwahling, what do you know? Except that shoes were made there.

Mary

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geoff

"david lang" wrote in message
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Mary Fisher wrote:

|| No, a cobbler is a shoe repairman, not a maker.

That would be a Cordwainer.

Dave

That trade crops up frequently on genealogy records
A cordwainer (AIUI) is one who works with Cordovan
leather (a particularly fine flexible leather from
the town of Cordoba(sp?) in Spain. Fine, flexible
items would be manufactured from Cordovan leather
such as gloves - it is not inconceivable that 'toffs'
might have shoes made by their Cordwainer ... AIU
Cordwainer != shoemaker.
It's a bit like a cardboard-box folder being styled
an _Origami artiste_; even though the techniques are
similar.

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Brian

Brian Sharrock wrote:
"david lang" wrote in message
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Mary Fisher wrote:

|| No, a cobbler is a shoe repairman, not a maker.

That would be a Cordwainer.

Dave

That trade crops up frequently on genealogy records
A cordwainer (AIUI) is one who works with Cordovan
leather (a particularly fine flexible leather from
the town of Cordoba(sp?) in Spain. Fine, flexible
items would be manufactured from Cordovan leather
such as gloves - it is not inconceivable that 'toffs'
might have shoes made by their Cordwainer ... AIU
Cordwainer != shoemaker.
It's a bit like a cardboard-box folder being styled
an _Origami artiste_; even though the techniques are
similar.

My sister-out-law refers to herself as a cordwainer when she makes
leather bags and belts. The leather she uses for that is a lot stiffer
than most shoe-leather. She is using the word just to mean
"leather-worker".

The old copy of Collins by my desk gives cordwainer as "Archaic: A
shoemaker or worker in leather" (and then proceeds to give the
derivation from Cordoba).

"Brian Sharrock" wrote in message
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"david lang" wrote in message
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Mary Fisher wrote:

|| No, a cobbler is a shoe repairman, not a maker.

That would be a Cordwainer.

Dave

That trade crops up frequently on genealogy records
A cordwainer (AIUI) is one who works with Cordovan
leather (a particularly fine flexible leather from
the town of Cordoba(sp?) in Spain. Fine, flexible
items would be manufactured from Cordovan leather
such as gloves - it is not inconceivable that 'toffs'
might have shoes made by their Cordwainer ... AIU
Cordwainer != shoemaker.
It's a bit like a cardboard-box folder being styled
an _Origami artiste_; even though the techniques are
similar.

It's much more general than that these days - shoes and accessories in all
sorts of leather and other materials are designed and made at Cordwainers
College.

Mary

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Brian

On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 20:05:42 +0100, "Mary Fisher"
wrote:

...shoemaking?

Mary


I know little except that in the streets of Cairo round the Babzewalla
Mosque, you will find litterally hundreds of small business making
shoes to fit.

Rick

"Mary Fisher" wrote in message
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Already known but thanks anyway.
But you don't know anything about it yourself ?

No. What is the interest? There is no way anyone not already well
trained can compete with modern machines and/or cheap imports.



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"Mary Fisher" wrote in message
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Already known but thanks anyway.
But you don't know anything about it yourself ?

No. What is the interest? There is no way anyone not already well
trained can compete with modern machines and/or cheap imports.

The interest is that many of us have feet which aren't catered for by
standard sizes in commercially produced shoes. There are two answers to
that: hand-made shoes (frightfuly expensive) or make them yourself. Spouse
has made all mine and many of his own (including all our Roman, Dark Age and
Mediaeval ones) for years but now he's being asked to cater for others.

I thought someone here might know more than we do. It seems that they don't,
which is fair enough.

There's a huge amount of untapped knowledge on d-i-y skills in this ng, any
question is worth asking.

Mary

"Rick" wrote in message
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On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 20:05:42 +0100, "Mary Fisher"
wrote:

...shoemaking?

Mary


I know little except that in the streets of Cairo round the Babzewalla
Mosque, you will find litterally hundreds of small business making
shoes to fit.

It's a long way to go and expensive to travel for something one can do one's
self :-)

Mary

Rick

In message , Mary
Fisher writes

"raden" wrote in message
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In message , Mary Fisher
writes
...shoemaking?

Yes

I am from Kettering

OK, Dwahling, what do you know? Except that shoes were made there.

Err that's about it

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geoff

"raden" wrote in message
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...shoemaking?

Yes

I am from Kettering

OK, Dwahling, what do you know? Except that shoes were made there.

Err that's about it

LOL! I expected as much :-)

I knew too. And about Northampton. And I've been to the wonderful Clarks
Museum in Street (that's a small town in Somerset). And I know some places
in Yorkshire where clogs are made.

But not much more so you're not alone.

Mary



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geoff

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The interest is that many of us have feet which aren't catered for by
standard sizes in commercially produced shoes. There are two answers to
that: hand-made shoes (frightfuly expensive) or make them yourself. Spouse
has made all mine and many of his own (including all our Roman, Dark Age and
Mediaeval ones) for years but now he's being asked to cater for others.

Seems to me that, as long as he can find a quick and easy way of making
lasts for his customers, he doesn't really need to do anything
differently.

On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 19:59:16 +0100, "Mary Fisher"
wrote:


"Rick" wrote in message
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On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 20:05:42 +0100, "Mary Fisher"
wrote:

...shoemaking?

Mary


I know little except that in the streets of Cairo round the Babzewalla
Mosque, you will find litterally hundreds of small business making
shoes to fit.

It's a long way to go and expensive to travel for something one can do one's
self :-)

Mary

Rick



You can make shoes, can you make the to fit very weird shaped feet, if
you can then lets talk. My mum has major issues with shoes, the last
people to hand make some for her,made shoes that were useless.

Rick

"Rob Morley" wrote in message
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In article ,
says...
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The interest is that many of us have feet which aren't catered for by
standard sizes in commercially produced shoes. There are two answers to
that: hand-made shoes (frightfuly expensive) or make them yourself.
Spouse
has made all mine and many of his own (including all our Roman, Dark Age
and
Mediaeval ones) for years but now he's being asked to cater for others.

Seems to me that, as long as he can find a quick and easy way of making
lasts for his customers, he doesn't really need to do anything
differently.

OK, how do you suggest doing that?

Mary

"Rick" wrote in message
...

I know little except that in the streets of Cairo round the Babzewalla
Mosque, you will find litterally hundreds of small business making
shoes to fit.

It's a long way to go and expensive to travel for something one can do
one's
self :-)

Mary

Rick



You can make shoes, can you make the to fit very weird shaped feet, if
you can then lets talk. My mum has major issues with shoes, the last
people to hand make some for her,made shoes that were useless.

Rick

Well, we can talk - but you were just suggesting going to Cairo ... :-)

Mary

On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 21:46:55 +0100, "Mary Fisher"
wrote:


"Rick" wrote in message
.. .

I know little except that in the streets of Cairo round the Babzewalla
Mosque, you will find litterally hundreds of small business making
shoes to fit.

It's a long way to go and expensive to travel for something one can do
one's
self :-)

Mary

Rick



You can make shoes, can you make the to fit very weird shaped feet, if
you can then lets talk. My mum has major issues with shoes, the last
people to hand make some for her,made shoes that were useless.

Rick

Well, we can talk - but you were just suggesting going to Cairo ... :-)

Mary



Me mum won't go, she won't leave Great Britian. I even got a friend
who lives there to volenteer to act as a guide for her, but alas ...

Me Mums feet are not far off being as wide as they are long, she has
arthritus in several joints, but still likes to spend all day up and
walking her dogs .......... Somewhat of a challenge I guess ?

Rick

"Rick" wrote in message
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Well, we can talk - but you were just suggesting going to Cairo ... :-)

Mary



Me mum won't go, she won't leave Great Britian. I even got a friend
who lives there to volenteer to act as a guide for her, but alas ...

I don't blame her. Full of tourists :-)

Me Mums feet are not far off being as wide as they are long,

Ours are too. What's more I have hammer toes but they're going to be
straightened.

she has
arthritus in several joints, but still likes to spend all day up and
walking her dogs .......... Somewhat of a challenge I guess ?

Apart from the dogs she sounds like me...

If you're serious mail me.

But I'm not promising anything.

Mary

Rick

In article ,
says...

"Rob Morley" wrote in message
t...
In article ,
says...
snip
The interest is that many of us have feet which aren't catered for by
standard sizes in commercially produced shoes. There are two answers to
that: hand-made shoes (frightfuly expensive) or make them yourself.
Spouse
has made all mine and many of his own (including all our Roman, Dark Age
and
Mediaeval ones) for years but now he's being asked to cater for others.

Seems to me that, as long as he can find a quick and easy way of making
lasts for his customers, he doesn't really need to do anything
differently.

OK, how do you suggest doing that?

Wrap socked foot in clingfilm, apply plaster bandage, remove plaster and
use it as a mould for resin casting (if the shoes are to have a raised
heel then the cast should be made with the heel raised the right amount
with a block). The form of the toe shape of the shoe can then be added
to the casting - make it removable and you can use the same last to make
different styles of shoe just by changing toe forms.

"Rob Morley" wrote in message
t...
In article ,
says...

"Rob Morley" wrote in message
t...
In article ,
says...
snip
The interest is that many of us have feet which aren't catered for by
standard sizes in commercially produced shoes. There are two answers
to
that: hand-made shoes (frightfuly expensive) or make them yourself.
Spouse
has made all mine and many of his own (including all our Roman, Dark
Age
and
Mediaeval ones) for years but now he's being asked to cater for
others.

Seems to me that, as long as he can find a quick and easy way of making
lasts for his customers, he doesn't really need to do anything
differently.

OK, how do you suggest doing that?

Wrap socked foot in clingfilm, apply plaster bandage, remove plaster and
use it as a mould for resin casting (if the shoes are to have a raised
heel then the cast should be made with the heel raised the right amount
with a block). The form of the toe shape of the shoe can then be added
to the casting - make it removable and you can use the same last to make
different styles of shoe just by changing toe forms.

You've done it that way, I assume.

Mary Fisher wrote:

that: hand-made shoes (frightfuly expensive) or make them yourself. Spouse
has made all mine and many of his own (including all our Roman, Dark Age and
Mediaeval ones) for years but now he's being asked to cater for others.

Gosh, I knew you'd been around a while, but I didn't realise you
went back to Roman Times.
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Selah

"Stephen Gower" wrote in message
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Mary Fisher wrote:

that: hand-made shoes (frightfuly expensive) or make them yourself. Spouse
has made all mine and many of his own (including all our Roman, Dark Age
and
Mediaeval ones) for years but now he's being asked to cater for others.

Gosh, I knew you'd been around a while, but I didn't realise you
went back to Roman Times.

That reference referred to the last four centuries of Rome. I don't give my
age away but yes, we we've been around for quite a time :-)

Mary

In article ,
says...
snipchanging toe forms.

You've done it that way, I assume.

No, it was just an off-the-cuff suggestion. :-)

"Rob Morley" wrote in message
t...
In article ,
says...
snipchanging toe forms.

You've done it that way, I assume.

No, it was just an off-the-cuff suggestion. :-)

I thought so :-)

Mary