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r.p.mcmurphy August 31st 05 09:22 AM

Guttering
 
Hi, I'm refurbing my 1820s cottage. it has plastic square stuff fitted,
which i want to replace with something more in keeping with the cottage
style. what's available out there?

steve



AlexW August 31st 05 10:09 AM

r.p.mcmurphy wrote:
Hi, I'm refurbing my 1820s cottage. it has plastic square stuff fitted,
which i want to replace with something more in keeping with the cottage
style. what's available out there?

steve



I like the look of the screwfix alum. stuff
http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...9026&id=101610 but can't
afford it for the whole house.

Reclaimed iron stuff from a salvage/reclamation yard would do the trick
but might be more effort intensive to refurbish.

I believe that you can now get new metal guttering to fit old iron
systems so a mix and match approach is possible - try your local BMs etc
they might have something like this.

HTH,

Alex.

Dave Fawthrop August 31st 05 10:26 AM

On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 09:22:57 +0100, "r.p.mcmurphy"
wrote:

| Hi, I'm refurbing my 1820s cottage. it has plastic square stuff fitted,
| which i want to replace with something more in keeping with the cottage
| style. what's available out there?

Seen some black extruded/rolled aluminium stuff on an old house which
looked fine.

http://www.rainguard.co.uk/rainwater/aluminium/xlgp.cfm
Several types available, this is the one which Google produced.

This needs a machine in the back of a van to produce. Look for a small
firm which does them in your area.

--
Dave Fawthrop dave hyphenologist co uk
"Intelligent Design?" my knees say *not*.
"Intelligent Design?" my back says *not*.

Will Dean August 31st 05 11:14 AM

"r.p.mcmurphy" wrote in message
...
Hi, I'm refurbing my 1820s cottage. it has plastic square stuff fitted,
which i want to replace with something more in keeping with the cottage
style. what's available out there?


I think you'll find the best stuff is the extruded aluminium, which you can
get pre-finished (powder coated) - 'Stormguard' is one make. You can get it
in appropriate profiles to look like cast iron. There's a cast aluminium
product which looks even more like cast iron (it has the proper sockets),
but I don't know anything about that.

This is a completely different product to the rolled 'seamless guttering'
crap which they make in the back of a van (or is it on the back of a horse?)


Will





Dave Fawthrop August 31st 05 11:59 AM

On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 11:14:50 +0100, "Will Dean"
wrote:

| "r.p.mcmurphy" wrote in message
| ...
| Hi, I'm refurbing my 1820s cottage. it has plastic square stuff fitted,
| which i want to replace with something more in keeping with the cottage
| style. what's available out there?
|
| I think you'll find the best stuff is the extruded aluminium, which you can
| get pre-finished (powder coated) - 'Stormguard' is one make. You can get it
| in appropriate profiles to look like cast iron. There's a cast aluminium
| product which looks even more like cast iron (it has the proper sockets),
| but I don't know anything about that.
|
| This is a completely different product to the rolled 'seamless guttering'
| crap which they make in the back of a van (or is it on the back of a horse?)

Seen that put on a *builder's* own 1850s house. Looked good to me.

--
Dave Fawthrop dave hyphenologist co uk
"Intelligent Design?" my knees say *not*.
"Intelligent Design?" my back says *not*.

Mary Fisher August 31st 05 12:14 PM


"Will Dean" wrote in message
.. .
"r.p.mcmurphy" wrote in message
...
Hi, I'm refurbing my 1820s cottage. it has plastic square stuff fitted,
which i want to replace with something more in keeping with the cottage
style. what's available out there?


I think you'll find the best stuff is the extruded aluminium, which you
can get pre-finished (powder coated) - 'Stormguard' is one make. You can
get it in appropriate profiles to look like cast iron. There's a cast
aluminium product which looks even more like cast iron (it has the proper
sockets), but I don't know anything about that.

This is a completely different product to the rolled 'seamless guttering'
crap which they make in the back of a van (or is it on the back of a
horse?)


The rolled seamless aluminium guttering which was made in the back of a van
we have is anything but crap. It's excellent, strong, deep and looks like
cast iron from the ground. I had my doubts but now I'm converted.

What's your experience? Or are you making a judgement withour experience?

Mary


Will







Set Square August 31st 05 12:19 PM

In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Will Dean wrote:


This is a completely different product to the rolled 'seamless
guttering' crap which they make in the back of a van (or is it on the
back of a horse?)

What's your objection to this stuff? It may not be suitable for the OP, but
it's fine on more modern properties - and a *lot* less problematical than
plastic guttering.
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Set Square
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alex August 31st 05 12:32 PM

I'm refurbishing my garden shed. where can I purchase new guttering


AlexW August 31st 05 01:06 PM

alex wrote:
I'm refurbishing my garden shed. where can I purchase new guttering


Loads of places...

Wickes, B&Q, Homebase? Screwfix, Focus? Most builders merchants. Many
local DIY shops...


r.p.mcmurphy August 31st 05 01:39 PM

how much did this cost?

steve

"Mary Fisher" wrote in message
. net...

"Will Dean" wrote in message
.. .
"r.p.mcmurphy" wrote in message
...
Hi, I'm refurbing my 1820s cottage. it has plastic square stuff fitted,
which i want to replace with something more in keeping with the cottage
style. what's available out there?


I think you'll find the best stuff is the extruded aluminium, which you
can get pre-finished (powder coated) - 'Stormguard' is one make. You can
get it in appropriate profiles to look like cast iron. There's a cast
aluminium product which looks even more like cast iron (it has the proper
sockets), but I don't know anything about that.

This is a completely different product to the rolled 'seamless guttering'
crap which they make in the back of a van (or is it on the back of a
horse?)


The rolled seamless aluminium guttering which was made in the back of a
van we have is anything but crap. It's excellent, strong, deep and looks
like cast iron from the ground. I had my doubts but now I'm converted.

What's your experience? Or are you making a judgement withour experience?

Mary


Will









Bob Mannix August 31st 05 01:39 PM


"alex" wrote in message
oups.com...
I'm refurbishing my garden shed. where can I purchase new guttering



I did the same and wanted 76mm (3") guttering. I got mine on line from

http://www.master-plastics.co.uk/

and very good it was too.

Bob Mannix




Set Square August 31st 05 02:22 PM

In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
alex wrote:

I'm refurbishing my garden shed. where can I purchase new guttering


All the sheds sell guttering! g
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Bob Mannix August 31st 05 02:38 PM


"Set Square" wrote in message
...
In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
alex wrote:

I'm refurbishing my garden shed. where can I purchase new guttering


All the sheds sell guttering! g


They don't all sell 3" guttering or, if they do, they never have all the
bits in stock. 3" guttering looks best on a shed (IMHO).

Bob Mannix



Andy Luckman (AJL Electronics) August 31st 05 02:56 PM

In article ,
r.p.mcmurphy wrote:

how much did this cost?


How much did WHAT cost?

http://www.allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?How_to_post

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Mary Fisher August 31st 05 03:16 PM


"r.p.mcmurphy" wrote in message
...
how much did this cost?

steve


I can't find the receipt, I'll have to ask Spouse.

Until later,

Mary



r.p.mcmurphy August 31st 05 05:25 PM

what do you mean "How much did WHAT cost?"..its obvious what I'm talking
about and what I'm replying to...but if you need it spelling out to you, I'm
asking Mary how much did it cost to gutter her house.

steve

"Andy Luckman (AJL Electronics)" wrote in message
. ..
In article ,
r.p.mcmurphy wrote:

how much did this cost?


How much did WHAT cost?

http://www.allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?How_to_post

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AJL




ben August 31st 05 05:33 PM

r.p.mcmurphy wrote:
what do you mean "How much did WHAT cost?"..its obvious what I'm
talking about and what I'm replying to...but if you need it spelling
out to you, I'm asking Mary how much did it cost to gutter her house.

steve

"Andy Luckman (AJL Electronics)" wrote in message
. ..
In article ,
r.p.mcmurphy wrote:

how much did this cost?


How much did WHAT cost?

http://www.allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?How_to_post

--
AJL


Yep! but you replied to the wrong posting. :-) I think you got his back up
top posting. :-(



r.p.mcmurphy August 31st 05 06:21 PM

Oh dear. Naughty me;-)

steve

"ben" wrote in message
. uk...
r.p.mcmurphy wrote:
what do you mean "How much did WHAT cost?"..its obvious what I'm
talking about and what I'm replying to...but if you need it spelling
out to you, I'm asking Mary how much did it cost to gutter her house.

steve

"Andy Luckman (AJL Electronics)" wrote in message
. ..
In article ,
r.p.mcmurphy wrote:

how much did this cost?

How much did WHAT cost?

http://www.allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?How_to_post

--
AJL


Yep! but you replied to the wrong posting. :-) I think you got his back up
top posting. :-(





ben August 31st 05 06:26 PM

r.p.mcmurphy wrote:
Oh dear. Naughty me;-)

steve


:-)

fixes top posting automatically
http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/



Matt August 31st 05 10:29 PM

"ben" wrote:

r.p.mcmurphy wrote:
Oh dear. Naughty me;-)

steve


:-)

fixes top posting automatically
http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/



So does a killfile


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Andy Luckman (AJL Electronics) September 1st 05 08:41 AM

In article ,
r.p.mcmurphy wrote:

what do you mean "How much did WHAT cost?"..its obvious what I'm talking
about


No it isn't. You have posted your comment before a ream of untrimmed
irrelevance. Did you actually read the link I provided, or do you just know
best?

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Andy Luckman (AJL Electronics) September 1st 05 08:41 AM

In article , r.p.mcmurphy
wrote:

Oh dear. Naughty me;-)


You obviously don't want to communicate.

*plonk*

--
AJL

r.p.mcmurphy September 1st 05 12:24 PM

Andy Luckman (AJL Electronics) wrote:
In article ,
r.p.mcmurphy wrote:

what do you mean "How much did WHAT cost?"..its obvious what I'm
talking about


No it isn't. You have posted your comment before a ream of untrimmed
irrelevance. Did you actually read the link I provided, or do you
just know best?


i just know best.




r.p.mcmurphy September 1st 05 12:26 PM

Mary Fisher wrote:
"r.p.mcmurphy" wrote in message
...
how much did this cost?

steve


I can't find the receipt, I'll have to ask Spouse.

Until later,

Mary


Thanks Mary. It will be usefull. How big is your house, for cost
comparisons sake. i have a large cottage.

Thanks

steve



Mary Fisher September 1st 05 08:31 PM


"r.p.mcmurphy" wrote in message
...
Mary Fisher wrote:
"r.p.mcmurphy" wrote in message
...
how much did this cost?

steve


I can't find the receipt, I'll have to ask Spouse.

Until later,

Mary


Thanks Mary. It will be usefull. How big is your house, for cost
comparisons sake. i have a large cottage.

Thanks

steve


Spouse says it ws £400, all fitting included.

Ours is a 'larger' semi detached house, about 8 metres wide, 9 metres
deep.We also have a small guttered porch which was also guttered.

The guttering is great, no leaks, no overflow even in the heaviest rain
(such as we had yesterday - 2" in 30 minutes, I measured) and it means we
can save a lot more water in butts for the garden, thus saving on our
metered water bills. And no maintenance.

The workmen were efficient and co-operative.

And I don't give a toss about what anyone else says about it. Our experience
is all that matters to us.

Mary





r.p.mcmurphy September 1st 05 11:10 PM

Mary Fisher wrote:
"r.p.mcmurphy" wrote in message
...
Mary Fisher wrote:
"r.p.mcmurphy" wrote in
message ...
how much did this cost?

steve


I can't find the receipt, I'll have to ask Spouse.

Until later,

Mary


Thanks Mary. It will be usefull. How big is your house, for cost
comparisons sake. i have a large cottage.

Thanks

steve


Spouse says it ws £400, all fitting included.

Ours is a 'larger' semi detached house, about 8 metres wide, 9 metres
deep.We also have a small guttered porch which was also guttered.

The guttering is great, no leaks, no overflow even in the heaviest
rain (such as we had yesterday - 2" in 30 minutes, I measured) and it
means we can save a lot more water in butts for the garden, thus
saving on our metered water bills. And no maintenance.

The workmen were efficient and co-operative.

And I don't give a toss about what anyone else says about it. Our
experience is all that matters to us.

Mary


How did you find the company who did the work? are they a national outfit
or local?

steve



Mary Fisher September 2nd 05 09:46 AM


"r.p.mcmurphy" wrote in message
news:43177c40$0$17463$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-r

How did you find the company who did the work? are they a national outfit
or local?


They were local (Leeds, Yorkshire).

I hate to say it but a large card was put through the door. I discarded it -
but remembered it because it was well printed and in perfect English.

A few days later we asked a neighbour who had done his guttering, he said
that company, he said how pleased he'd been with their efficiency and the
result. Later we asked someone else, got the same company and the same
response. So Spouse telephoned to ask for a quote.

The chap came round, measured up, went away and sent an exemplary printed
quote. He couldn't do the job for a couple of weeks because he was going
way. He did it when he came back - and while in conversation it turned out
that he was in the same form as one of our daughters at school

That's irrelevant, just made the whole thing more memorable.

While we're also very pleased with the cavity wall insulation I can't
remember any such details about that company!

Mary



steve




r.p.mcmurphy September 2nd 05 11:43 AM

Mary Fisher wrote:
"r.p.mcmurphy" wrote in message
news:43177c40$0$17463$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-r

How did you find the company who did the work? are they a national
outfit or local?


They were local (Leeds, Yorkshire).

I hate to say it but a large card was put through the door. I
discarded it - but remembered it because it was well printed and in
perfect English.
A few days later we asked a neighbour who had done his guttering, he
said that company, he said how pleased he'd been with their
efficiency and the result. Later we asked someone else, got the same
company and the same response. So Spouse telephoned to ask for a
quote.
The chap came round, measured up, went away and sent an exemplary
printed quote. He couldn't do the job for a couple of weeks because
he was going way. He did it when he came back - and while in
conversation it turned out that he was in the same form as one of our
daughters at school
That's irrelevant, just made the whole thing more memorable.

While we're also very pleased with the cavity wall insulation I can't
remember any such details about that company!

Mary



steve


many thanks for your help! Dont s'pose you have any pictures of it you coud
send me? dont put yourself out though.

Cheers!

steve



Mary Fisher September 2nd 05 02:56 PM


"r.p.mcmurphy" wrote in message
news:43182cbb$0$22914$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-

many thanks for your help! Dont s'pose you have any pictures of it you
coud send me? dont put yourself out though.


I could take some but you wouldn't be any wiser, it just looks like, well,
guttering.

Neverthelss, I'll take the old shoebox outside now.

see you lter.

Mary

Cheers!

steve





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