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raden August 9th 05 01:05 AM

Ping pong balls - the fixing of!
 
In message , dave
writes
How do you get the two halfs of a ping pong ball back together again after
prising them apart? This is a serious question - my kids want to know!

I think the best answer is that you don't. Even if you tried, you'd end
up with a bit of a naff, unbalanced sphere with no bounce

Aren't they made of some form of cellulose? - they burn well, that will
entertain them for a few minutes

You could always give them a golf ball to unravel, that would last a few
minutes more

--
geoff

[email protected] August 9th 05 10:02 AM

Rivets, obviously.

Iron snap-heads for preference


Paul Andrews August 9th 05 10:15 AM

"dave" wrote in message
...
How do you get the two halfs of a ping pong ball back together again after
prising them apart? This is a serious question - my kids want to know!


Fill with concrete then marry both halves together..



Mr Fizzion August 9th 05 10:39 AM

On Mon, 08 Aug 2005 23:47:21 GMT, dave wrote:

How do you get the two halfs of a ping pong ball back together again after
prising them apart? This is a serious question - my kids want to know!


Use as lampshades for very bright LEDs?


John Schmitt August 9th 05 11:02 AM



raden wrote:

How do you get the two halfs of a ping pong ball back together again
after
prising them apart? This is a serious question - my kids want to know!


I think the best answer is that you don't. Even if you tried, you'd end
up with a bit of a naff, unbalanced sphere with no bounce


The balls are moulded monolithically, and repair is not really feasible.

Aren't they made of some form of cellulose? - they burn well, that will
entertain them for a few minutes


Celluloid. This is based on cellulose nitrate, which as you say burns
like blinko. Very old film stock was made of celluloid and if it jammed
in the projector was prone to ignite from the heat of the lamp. A number
of accidents in cinemas occurred, probably the most heart-breaking being
the incident in Paisley.

http://www.glencinema.org.uk/

Nitrate Stock film is also unstable and slowly turns to dust, an ongoing
problem for the National Film Archive. It can also combust
spontaneously. They are transferring what is left onto acetate stock
which is non-flammable but also temporally unstable. The degradation is
auto-catalytic, the acetic acid released hastening the degradation.

You could always give them a golf ball to unravel, that would last a few
minutes more


Beware! The bladder at the core contains fluid at high pressure and
puncturing this can result in injury. Not being a spoilsport, but I
remember a rained-off Wednesday (sports day) afternoon when my class,
out of boredom, proceeded to dismantle a golf ball. Someone stuck a
compass into the core and the goo inside easily made the ceiling.
Shooting yourself in the eyes with that will at best be very unpleasant.

To provide hours of fun, buy a cat and a supply of ping-pong balls. An
alternative way to entertain both the children and the cat is a laser
pointer, but be sure the children do not point it into the cat's eyes
but merely give it something to chase. I don't think this is animal
cruelty, cats like to chase things and if the become bored they will
give up and probably take a pre-prandial nap, as they are wont to do.

John Schmitt


news August 9th 05 11:46 AM

wrote:

Rivets, obviously.

Iron snap-heads for preference


TiG welding also works



Rob Morley August 9th 05 12:59 PM

In article , "John Schmitt" John49
@mdx.ac.uk says...
snip
To provide hours of fun, buy a cat


Does anyone buy non-pedigree cats? In my experience they just turn
up one day and decide to move in.

John Laird August 9th 05 01:36 PM

On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 11:02:29 +0100, John Schmitt wrote:

raden wrote:

You could always give them a golf ball to unravel, that would last a few
minutes more


Beware! The bladder at the core contains fluid at high pressure and
puncturing this can result in injury. Not being a spoilsport, but I
remember a rained-off Wednesday (sports day) afternoon when my class,
out of boredom, proceeded to dismantle a golf ball. Someone stuck a
compass into the core and the goo inside easily made the ceiling.
Shooting yourself in the eyes with that will at best be very unpleasant.


You'll be doing well to find a "wound" golf ball these days, and even then
there's little guarantee it would have an old-fashioned liquid centre. All
are solid construction, one way or another.

The goo was only under pressure due to the rubber wound around it. If you
removed all of that, only a fairly floppy sack remained.

[Sign of mis-spent youth. I'll get me coat.]

--
I have a plan so cunning, you could put a tail on it and call it a weasel

Mary Fisher August 9th 05 04:38 PM


"Rob Morley" wrote in message
t...
In article , "John Schmitt" John49
@mdx.ac.uk says...
snip
To provide hours of fun, buy a cat


Does anyone buy non-pedigree cats? In my experience they just turn
up one day and decide to move in.


Mine too.

Mary



raden August 9th 05 08:14 PM

In message , John Schmitt
writes

You could always give them a golf ball to unravel, that would last a
few minutes more


Beware! The bladder at the core contains fluid at high pressure and
puncturing this can result in injury. Not being a spoilsport, but I
remember a rained-off Wednesday (sports day) afternoon when my class,
out of boredom, proceeded to dismantle a golf ball. Someone stuck a
compass into the core and the goo inside easily made the ceiling.
Shooting yourself in the eyes with that will at best be very unpleasant.

Castor oil IIRC (at least acco4rding to the quiz in one of the
Indonesian chatrooms)

We used to pull them apart as kids - I don't remember any injuries

--
geoff

Mary Fisher August 9th 05 08:18 PM


"raden" wrote in message
...
In message , John Schmitt
writes

You could always give them a golf ball to unravel, that would last a few
minutes more


Beware! The bladder at the core contains fluid at high pressure and
puncturing this can result in injury. Not being a spoilsport, but I
remember a rained-off Wednesday (sports day) afternoon when my class, out
of boredom, proceeded to dismantle a golf ball. Someone stuck a compass
into the core and the goo inside easily made the ceiling. Shooting
yourself in the eyes with that will at best be very unpleasant.

Castor oil IIRC (at least acco4rding to the quiz in one of the Indonesian
chatrooms)

We used to pull them apart as kids - I don't remember any injuries


Had golf been invented then?

Mary

--
geoff




Rob Morley August 9th 05 08:58 PM

In article , "Mary
Fisher" says...

"raden" wrote in message
...
In message , John Schmitt
writes

You could always give them a golf ball to unravel, that would last a few
minutes more

Beware! The bladder at the core contains fluid at high pressure and
puncturing this can result in injury. Not being a spoilsport, but I
remember a rained-off Wednesday (sports day) afternoon when my class, out
of boredom, proceeded to dismantle a golf ball. Someone stuck a compass
into the core and the goo inside easily made the ceiling. Shooting
yourself in the eyes with that will at best be very unpleasant.

Castor oil IIRC (at least acco4rding to the quiz in one of the Indonesian
chatrooms)

We used to pull them apart as kids - I don't remember any injuries


Had golf been invented then?

I think maybe they were still using leather balls stuffed with
feathers :-)

raden August 9th 05 09:04 PM

In message , Mary
Fisher writes

"raden" wrote in message
...
In message , John Schmitt
writes

You could always give them a golf ball to unravel, that would last a few
minutes more

Beware! The bladder at the core contains fluid at high pressure and
puncturing this can result in injury. Not being a spoilsport, but I
remember a rained-off Wednesday (sports day) afternoon when my class, out
of boredom, proceeded to dismantle a golf ball. Someone stuck a compass
into the core and the goo inside easily made the ceiling. Shooting
yourself in the eyes with that will at best be very unpleasant.

Castor oil IIRC (at least acco4rding to the quiz in one of the Indonesian
chatrooms)

We used to pull them apart as kids - I don't remember any injuries


Had golf been invented then?

Watch it grandma !

--
geoff

Mary Fisher August 9th 05 09:52 PM


"raden" wrote in message
...


We used to pull them apart as kids - I don't remember any injuries


Had golf been invented then?

Watch it grandma !


Well, in 1764 weplayed at St Andrews but I was but a youngster, golf had
been played for some time before then - you might know more about it than I
do ...

Mary

--
geoff




Rod August 9th 05 10:00 PM

"Mary Fisher" wrote in
. net:


"raden" wrote in message
...


We used to pull them apart as kids - I don't remember any injuries

Had golf been invented then?

Watch it grandma !


Well, in 1764 weplayed at St Andrews but I was but a youngster, golf
had been played for some time before then - you might know more about
it than I do ...

Was that the 22 hole course?

--
Rod


raden August 9th 05 10:43 PM

In message , Mary
Fisher writes

"raden" wrote in message
...


We used to pull them apart as kids - I don't remember any injuries

Had golf been invented then?

Watch it grandma !


Well, in 1764 weplayed at St Andrews but I was but a youngster, golf had
been played for some time before then - you might know more about it than I
do ...

In this case, I will defer to my elders

--
geoff

John Schmitt August 10th 05 10:42 AM

raden wrote:

[golf ball cores - this thread is veering past OT!]


Castor oil IIRC (at least acco4rding to the quiz in one of the
Indonesian chatrooms)



I have a dim and distant memory of honey being one of the fillings,
although the web tells me that corn syrup (a sort of US golden syrup
type thing) and saline were used. It appears that the liquid filling
made the ball more stable, although solid cores made for longer strokes,
i.e. further into the rough.

http://www.learnaboutgolf.com/beginner/balltypes.html

will provide the relevant information for those who have not yet died of
boredom.

At some point I might actually have the combination of enough money and
enough leisure time simultaneously to take up the sport. A man can
dream, can he not?

John Schmitt



John Laird August 10th 05 11:37 AM

On 10 Aug 2005 10:14:41 GMT, (Huge) wrote:

John Schmitt writes:

[20 lines snipped]

At some point I might actually have the combination of enough money and
enough leisure time simultaneously to take up the sport [golf].


You forgot "an enormous tolerance for boredom and oddly dressed ******s".


Oi, I resemble that remark !

:o)


Minor saving grace...

--
Hell hath no fury like a queen without a hairdryer

John Schmitt August 10th 05 12:05 PM



Huge wrote:

[golf]

Serves you right for playing the world's dullest game. :o)


Are you aware that you can now watch televised *fishing*? Compared with
that, removing artex carries a certain appeal.

John Schmitt


Mary Fisher August 10th 05 02:15 PM


"Huge" wrote in message
...


Unlike golf, which has none. A walk in the country, spoiled. Or a walk in
the spoiled country, either will do.


Both unoriginal.



John Laird August 10th 05 02:50 PM

On 10 Aug 2005 10:43:05 GMT, (Huge) wrote:

(golf)
A walk in the country, spoiled. Or a walk in
the spoiled country, either will do.


Ah, those hoary old chestnuts, trotted out with regularity by those who
almost inevitably found the level of skill required to play, far far beyond
them ;-))

[It's terribly wasteful of land, I'll admit. But looking at what farmers
get up to as so-called custodians, I won't feel too guilty.]

--
Your superior intellect is no match for our puny weapons!

Mary Fisher August 10th 05 03:21 PM


"Rod" wrote in message
. 4...


Well, in 1764 weplayed at St Andrews but I was but a youngster, golf
had been played for some time before then - you might know more about
it than I do ...

Was that the 22 hole course?


Eleven out, eleven in, that's (um gets out abacus) YES! Twenty two. But ...
'WAS???'

Mary



Mary Fisher August 10th 05 03:33 PM


"John Laird" wrote in message
...
On 10 Aug 2005 10:43:05 GMT, (Huge) wrote:

(golf)
A walk in the country, spoiled. Or a walk in
the spoiled country, either will do.


Ah, those hoary old chestnuts, trotted out with regularity by those who
almost inevitably found the level of skill required to play, far far
beyond
them ;-))

[It's terribly wasteful of land, I'll admit. But looking at what farmers
get up to as so-called custodians, I won't feel too guilty.]


I think it's a good use of land. Our Glorious Leader's Sidekick would have
thousands of rabbit hutches built on them at a stroke, given the chance.
It's green, it's well maintained, it's good for wildlife, it's not
objectionable to look at. The clubs afford pleasure to some and employment
to many both directly and indirectly.

For example, 'wits' who devise shallow epithets and those who repeatedly
roll them out, monotonously.

Mary



John Schmitt August 10th 05 03:42 PM



Mary Fisher wrote:

(golf)


[It's terribly wasteful of land, I'll admit. But looking at what farmers
get up to as so-called custodians, I won't feel too guilty.]


I think it's a good use of land. Our Glorious Leader's Sidekick would have
thousands of rabbit hutches built on them at a stroke, given the chance.


I remember walking along a right of way which crossed a golf course. I
actually found a lost ball, I knew it was lost because the guy was
searching for it.

John Schmitt


Owain August 10th 05 05:07 PM

John Schmitt wrote:
At some point I might actually have the combination of enough money and
enough leisure time simultaneously to take up the sport. A man can
dream, can he not?


Ach, it's just a nice walk, spoilt.

Owain



Owain August 10th 05 05:09 PM

John Laird wrote:
[It's terribly wasteful of land, I'll admit. But looking at what farmers
get up to as so-called custodians, I won't feel too guilty.]


It's a fine use for Highland land that's too bumpy to put a craft centre
on, and not bumpy enough for a ski centre.

Owain



Owain August 10th 05 05:10 PM

John Schmitt wrote:
I remember walking along a right of way which crossed a golf course. I
actually found a lost ball, I knew it was lost because the guy was
searching for it.


That was fortunate, I hope you handed it in at the club house.

Owain



Owain August 10th 05 05:13 PM

Mary Fisher wrote:
I think it's a good use of land. Our Glorious Leader's Sidekick would have
thousands of rabbit hutches built on them at a stroke, given the chance.
It's green, it's well maintained, it's good for wildlife, it's not
objectionable to look at. The clubs afford pleasure to some and employment
to many both directly and indirectly.


That is very true, and there are few enough green spaces in urban areas,
especially as school playing fields are being sold off for housing.

Anyway these days if your house backs on to a school you probably have
to have frosted glass on all the windows or be labelled a peedofile, innit.

Owain


Mary Fisher August 10th 05 06:05 PM


"John Schmitt" wrote in message
...


Mary Fisher wrote:

(golf)


[It's terribly wasteful of land, I'll admit. But looking at what farmers
get up to as so-called custodians, I won't feel too guilty.]


I think it's a good use of land. Our Glorious Leader's Sidekick would
have thousands of rabbit hutches built on them at a stroke, given the
chance.


I remember walking along a right of way which crossed a golf course. I
actually found a lost ball, I knew it was lost because the guy was
searching for it.


Do you know the story of the butcher who displayed a couple of golf balls in
his window?

Mary

John Schmitt




Mary Fisher August 10th 05 08:53 PM


"Owain" wrote in message
...

Anyway these days if your house backs on to a school you probably have to
have frosted glass on all the windows or be labelled a peedofile, innit.


You've just reminded me of another reason I'm glad to live in this area. No
schools for half a mile around.

No golf course either but sacrifices have to be made ...

Mary

Owain




Mary Fisher August 10th 05 08:53 PM


"Owain" wrote in message
...
John Laird wrote:
[It's terribly wasteful of land, I'll admit. But looking at what farmers
get up to as so-called custodians, I won't feel too guilty.]


It's a fine use for Highland land that's too bumpy to put a craft centre
on, and not bumpy enough for a ski centre.


Not cold enough either, these days ...

Mary

Owain





raden August 10th 05 09:28 PM

In message , John Schmitt
writes
raden wrote:

[golf ball cores - this thread is veering past OT!]


Castor oil IIRC (at least acco4rding to the quiz in one of the
Indonesian chatrooms)



I have a dim and distant memory of honey being one of the fillings,
although the web tells me that corn syrup (a sort of US golden syrup
type thing) and saline were used. It appears that the liquid filling
made the ball more stable, although solid cores made for longer
strokes, i.e. further into the rough.

http://www.learnaboutgolf.com/beginner/balltypes.html

will provide the relevant information for those who have not yet died
of boredom.

At some point I might actually have the combination of enough money and
enough leisure time simultaneously to take up the sport. A man can
dream, can he not?

I got a hole in one on my 6th time out (Absolute sheer fluke of course)
then got bored and haven't played since

--
geoff

raden August 10th 05 09:28 PM

In message , Mary
Fisher writes

"John Schmitt" wrote in message
...


Mary Fisher wrote:

(golf)


[It's terribly wasteful of land, I'll admit. But looking at what farmers
get up to as so-called custodians, I won't feel too guilty.]


I think it's a good use of land. Our Glorious Leader's Sidekick would
have thousands of rabbit hutches built on them at a stroke, given the
chance.


I remember walking along a right of way which crossed a golf course. I
actually found a lost ball, I knew it was lost because the guy was
searching for it.


Do you know the story of the butcher who displayed a couple of golf balls in
his window?

Was there a hole in one ?

--
geoff

Owain August 10th 05 10:14 PM

Mary Fisher wrote:
You've just reminded me of another reason I'm glad to live in this area. No
schools for half a mile around.
No golf course either but sacrifices have to be made ...


And you're quite close to Harrogate which is about the second best place
to live in the country, according to Channel 4 last night.

Owain


Andy Dingley August 10th 05 11:52 PM

On 10 Aug 2005 10:43:05 GMT, (Huge) wrote:

Serves you right for playing the world's dullest game. :o)


Oh come on! Golf's hardly the worst of all those out there. No-one ever
bothered to describe cricket as "A good sit-down, spoiled" - at least
golf is a pleasant wander through a somewhat over-manicured park.


Mary Fisher August 11th 05 10:15 AM


"raden" wrote in message
...


Do you know the story of the butcher who displayed a couple of golf balls
in
his window?

Was there a hole in one ?


No, a customer asked if he'd killed a golf.

Mary

--
geoff




Mary Fisher August 11th 05 10:18 AM


"Andy Dingley" wrote in message
...
On 10 Aug 2005 10:43:05 GMT, (Huge) wrote:

Serves you right for playing the world's dullest game. :o)


Oh come on! Golf's hardly the worst of all those out there. No-one ever
bothered to describe cricket as "A good sit-down, spoiled" - at least
golf is a pleasant wander through a somewhat over-manicured park.


I'm not a lover of any competitive sport but I'd rather watch cricket than
football any day. Each to his own though, if everyone were like me the world
would be a very dull place. I used to play snooker but even that palled ...

Mary




Mary Fisher August 11th 05 11:39 AM


"Owain" wrote in message
...
Mary Fisher wrote:
You've just reminded me of another reason I'm glad to live in this area.
No schools for half a mile around.
No golf course either but sacrifices have to be made ...


And you're quite close to Harrogate which is about the second best place
to live in the country, according to Channel 4 last night.


I was in Harrogate yesterday. You need a LOT of money to live there ...

Where we live isn't regarded as desirable but houses rarely go up for sale
except after an owner's death, we've lived here for 42 years and can't see a
reason for moving..

Mary

Owain




Owain August 11th 05 12:11 PM

Andy Dingley wrote:
Oh come on! Golf's hardly the worst of all those out there. No-one ever
bothered to describe cricket as "A good sit-down, spoiled" - at least
golf is a pleasant wander through a somewhat over-manicured park.


Ah, but with cricket you can read a book - and you get a good tea.

Owain



raden August 11th 05 08:35 PM

In message , Owain
writes
Mary Fisher wrote:
You've just reminded me of another reason I'm glad to live in this
area. No schools for half a mile around.
No golf course either but sacrifices have to be made ...


And you're quite close to Harrogate which is about the second best
place to live in the country, according to Channel 4 last night.

Prolly from "Best and Worst Places to Live in the UK"

Which was shown on CH4 at 8 pm on Tuesday

--
geoff


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