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Mr Fizzion
 
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I'm thinking of running pipes down one wall of my bathroom. There will
be 5 pipes: hot water, cold water, gas, CH flow and CH return.

I also have a Grohe bath/shower mixer which needs to be wall mounted.

My idea is to make a tiled "box" 2.5 metres high (the height of the
room), one bath width wide and one tile width deep. The pipes run
inside the box and the shower mixer is attached to it.

Do you think this is a good idea? Do you think it would look silly?
:-)

TIA

Mr F

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Mr Fizzion wrote:
I'm thinking of running pipes down one wall of my bathroom. There will
be 5 pipes: hot water, cold water, gas, CH flow and CH return.

I also have a Grohe bath/shower mixer which needs to be wall mounted.

My idea is to make a tiled "box" 2.5 metres high (the height of the
room), one bath width wide and one tile width deep. The pipes run
inside the box and the shower mixer is attached to it.

Do you think this is a good idea? Do you think it would look silly?


If I understand your configuration correctly, yes it's a good idea, and
no it will look fine. I did just that myself last week... in my case
the bath sits in an alcove about 6" longer than the bath, and I boxed in
the 6" floor-ceiling, with all pipework inside.

David
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Mr Fizzion wrote:
I'm thinking of running pipes down one wall of my bathroom. There will
be 5 pipes: hot water, cold water, gas, CH flow and CH return.

I also have a Grohe bath/shower mixer which needs to be wall mounted.

My idea is to make a tiled "box" 2.5 metres high (the height of the
room), one bath width wide and one tile width deep. The pipes run
inside the box and the shower mixer is attached to it.

Do you think this is a good idea? Do you think it would look silly?
:-)

TIA

Mr F

Sounds neat, but will you ever need access to the back of the shower
unit? Could you make a section of the boxing removable?
Phil

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"Mr Fizzion" wrote in message
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I'm thinking of running pipes down one wall of my bathroom. There will
be 5 pipes: hot water, cold water, gas, CH flow and CH return.

I also have a Grohe bath/shower mixer which needs to be wall mounted.

My idea is to make a tiled "box" 2.5 metres high (the height of the
room), one bath width wide and one tile width deep. The pipes run
inside the box and the shower mixer is attached to it.

Do you think this is a good idea? Do you think it would look silly?
:-)

TIA


Fundamentally; that's what I did ... only my box was rather more
than one tile 'deep' but from the bath's end to the room wall.
Some things you might want to consider;-
The tiling will be onto plaster-board?
If so you'll need substantial timbers 3"x3" (?) to attach
the timbers to . smaller sections of timbers are too flexible to
mount plasterboard.
As I see it; you're making an 'ell' of vertical posts: - two
will be attached to walls ~ but the third(return) will be
dangling in space and need bracing; you need to think this through;
also consider carefully where any extra vertical posts should go
considering the routing of your pipes and valves/outlets.

If using plasterboard : - give a few coats
of PVA before applying tiles.

You'll need to 'noggin' the timbers to provide support for
the shower connections.

In my case the plastic bath panel is detachable; so I brought
the water pipes down in a U loop then up towards the shower
bath taps - I placed full bore close-off valves on each of these
water-lines - 'just in case': I can detach the bath-panel, reach
in and cut off the water. { I've never had to invoke this
'in anger'; but what the hell!.)

BTW: Coming from a long line of cowards - I plumbed up and
connected everything before I clad the structure and subsequently
tiled - it was weird having a bath facing a collection of
struts and noggins with copper pipes on view - but nothing leaked.
it made the job take much longer - until the next weekend -
but 'I'm testing it, Dear" sufficed.

--

Brian





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On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 10:13:51 +0100, Mr Fizzion
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I'm thinking of running pipes down one wall of my bathroom. There will
be 5 pipes: hot water, cold water, gas, CH flow and CH return.

I also have a Grohe bath/shower mixer which needs to be wall mounted.

My idea is to make a tiled "box" 2.5 metres high (the height of the
room), one bath width wide and one tile width deep. The pipes run
inside the box and the shower mixer is attached to it.

Do you think this is a good idea? Do you think it would look silly?
:-)

TIA

Mr F


I have a similar thing, if you have a shower screen it hides that the
box is even there.

Its mich better than the old 6x6 box in the corner.

Rick



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"Mr Fizzion" wrote in message
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I'm thinking of running pipes down one wall of my bathroom. There will
be 5 pipes: hot water, cold water, gas, CH flow and CH return.

I also have a Grohe bath/shower mixer which needs to be wall mounted.

My idea is to make a tiled "box" 2.5 metres high (the height of the
room), one bath width wide and one tile width deep. The pipes run
inside the box and the shower mixer is attached to it.

Do you think this is a good idea? Do you think it would look silly?
:-)

TIA

Mr F


It sounds like a fine idea, just make sure you know the position you want
your shower before you plasterboard/plyboard it. Put in some cross beams to
firmly attach your shower to.

If you think you may need access to the pipes/shower you may want to have a
removeable panel, this wouold also need suitable cross pieces to make sure
it's firm once in.

I have a removeable panel on my soil box, I tiled the panel so that when in
place the tiles line up with the ones on the wall, but instead of grouting
the edges of the panel, I filled the gap with white silicone sealant. So if
I ever need to remove it, I can slice the silicone with a knife, remove the
retaining screws and the panel comes away. When you re-fit it, the silicone
fits back together quite nicely.

HTH


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Brian Sharrock wrote:
"Mr Fizzion" wrote in message
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My idea is to make a tiled "box" 2.5 metres high (the height of the
room), one bath width wide and one tile width deep. The pipes run
inside the box and the shower mixer is attached to it.

Do you think this is a good idea? Do you think it would look silly?


Some things you might want to consider;-
The tiling will be onto plaster-board?
If so you'll need substantial timbers 3"x3" (?) to attach
the timbers to . smaller sections of timbers are too flexible to
mount plasterboard.
As I see it; you're making an 'ell' of vertical posts: - two
will be attached to walls ~ but the third(return) will be
dangling in space and need bracing; you need to think this through;
also consider carefully where any extra vertical posts should go
considering the routing of your pipes and valves/outlets.


Much better to use a sheet of Aquapanel (search the ng archives for lots
of info on this) - it's waterproof and far stiffer than plasterboard so
ideal for this purpose. I used 3x2 timbers for the framework, with no
need for any extra support behind the panel across the 27"(?)width of
the bath, which made life easier too. Firm as a rock.

David
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Brian Sharrock wrote:
"Mr Fizzion" wrote in message
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My idea is to make a tiled "box" 2.5 metres high (the height of the
room), one bath width wide and one tile width deep. The pipes run
inside the box and the shower mixer is attached to it.

Do you think this is a good idea? Do you think it would look silly?


Some things you might want to consider;-
The tiling will be onto plaster-board?
If so you'll need substantial timbers 3"x3" (?) to attach
the timbers to . smaller sections of timbers are too flexible to
mount plasterboard.
As I see it; you're making an 'ell' of vertical posts: - two
will be attached to walls ~ but the third(return) will be
dangling in space and need bracing; you need to think this through;
also consider carefully where any extra vertical posts should go
considering the routing of your pipes and valves/outlets.


Much better to use a sheet of Aquapanel (search the ng archives for lots
of info on this) - it's waterproof and far stiffer than plasterboard so
ideal for this purpose. I used 3x2 timbers for the framework, with no
need for any extra support behind the panel across the 27"(?)width of the
bath, which made life easier too. Firm as a rock.


I don't disagree - Aquapanel is a better choice than Plaster-board
for something that will accept water fixings and tiles.
I've used both - mainly because when I did the first installation
I wasn't aware of Aquapanel. {BTW; 'Top Tiles' sell it].
However it's what's known as bl**dy heavy. A panel of the size
mentioned is probably a two-man lift - and the structure needs to
be capable of supporting it. Once affixed though, it'll be as
solid as a rock - and forms an ideal surface for tiling.

--

Brian


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Brian Sharrock wrote:

I wasn't aware of Aquapanel. {BTW; 'Top Tiles' sell it].
However it's what's known as bl**dy heavy. A panel of the size
mentioned is probably a two-man lift


I've only ever seen it sold in one size - 900x1200mm, which is pretty
manageable - although I believe they also make 900x2400 too; though I
wouldn't want to try using that!

David
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