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We're buying a new carpet and the salesman asked if we'd be wanting to
have it "stainguard" treated. We're getting a lightish blue 80/20 (new
wool & nylon) for the stairs and landing (with Cloud 9 7mm underlay).

Has anyone any stories to tell about stainproofing carpets?

Jonathan
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We're buying a new carpet and the salesman asked if we'd be wanting to
have it "stainguard" treated. We're getting a lightish blue 80/20 (new
wool & nylon) for the stairs and landing (with Cloud 9 7mm underlay).

Has anyone any stories to tell about stainproofing carpets?

Jonathan

For heavy use areas, like stairs and hallways, it is a good idea to have the
stainguard applied.


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BigWallop wrote:
"Jonathan" wrote in message
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We're buying a new carpet and the salesman asked if we'd be wanting to
have it "stainguard" treated. We're getting a lightish blue 80/20 (new
wool & nylon) for the stairs and landing (with Cloud 9 7mm underlay).

Has anyone any stories to tell about stainproofing carpets?

Jonathan


For heavy use areas, like stairs and hallways, it is a good idea to have the
stainguard applied.



Thanks - just checking to make sure I didn't get a chorus of "forget it"
so I think I'll give it whirl.



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"Jonathan" wrote in message
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BigWallop wrote:
"Jonathan" wrote in message
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We're buying a new carpet and the salesman asked if we'd be wanting to
have it "stainguard" treated. We're getting a lightish blue 80/20 (new
wool & nylon) for the stairs and landing (with Cloud 9 7mm underlay).

Has anyone any stories to tell about stainproofing carpets?

Jonathan


For heavy use areas, like stairs and hallways, it is a good idea to have

the
stainguard applied.



Thanks - just checking to make sure I didn't get a chorus of "forget it"
so I think I'll give it whirl.




Be careful, extra treatments that manufacturers haven't deemed necessary can
be detrimental to the wear life, and may (I stress may) invalidate any
guarantee.
80% wool/20% nylon carpets should not require "stainguarding"; wool is
naturally resistant to staining, providing you follow the manufacturers
spillage guide.
I have sold many thousands of square metres to hotels, casinos, nightclubs,
cinemas etc that have not had added treatments, and there haven't been
complaints about soiling on any untreated carpets.
Stain-Guard, Scotch Guard and other "Brand Names" or well-known treatments
that protect carpets are normally expensive. However, they are all just
water proofing treatments designed to stop anything spilled from actually
getting onto the fibres, by coating them in a protective seal. Some affect
the colour and feel of the finished carpet.
You are spending good money on the carpet so check with the manufacturer and
get their point of view, it could just be an extra profit stream for the
retailer.

Visit http://www.comebacktocarpet.com/care.htm for care info.



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80/20 wrote:
"Jonathan" wrote in message
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BigWallop wrote:

"Jonathan" wrote in message
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We're buying a new carpet and the salesman asked if we'd be wanting to
have it "stainguard" treated. We're getting a lightish blue 80/20 (new
wool & nylon) for the stairs and landing (with Cloud 9 7mm underlay).

Has anyone any stories to tell about stainproofing carpets?

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Be careful, extra treatments that manufacturers haven't deemed necessary can
be detrimental to the wear life, and may (I stress may) invalidate any
guarantee.
80% wool/20% nylon carpets should not require "stainguarding"; wool is
naturally resistant to staining, providing you follow the manufacturers
spillage guide.
I have sold many thousands of square metres to hotels, casinos, nightclubs,
cinemas etc that have not had added treatments, and there haven't been
complaints about soiling on any untreated carpets.
Stain-Guard, Scotch Guard and other "Brand Names" or well-known treatments
that protect carpets are normally expensive. However, they are all just
water proofing treatments designed to stop anything spilled from actually
getting onto the fibres, by coating them in a protective seal. Some affect
the colour and feel of the finished carpet.
You are spending good money on the carpet so check with the manufacturer and
get their point of view, it could just be an extra profit stream for the
retailer.

Visit http://www.comebacktocarpet.com/care.htm for care info.




Now THAT sounds like good advice! Thanks!




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Jonathan wrote:

We're buying a new carpet and the salesman asked if we'd be wanting to
have it "stainguard" treated. We're getting a lightish blue 80/20 (new
wool & nylon) for the stairs and landing (with Cloud 9 7mm underlay).

Has anyone any stories to tell about stainproofing carpets?

Don't know specifically about after-market treatments, but it is also
possible to get carpets that come stain-protected from the factory; we
bought a whole house of the stuff. It seemed cheaper this way than
having the stuff applied by the fitters, and is probably better and more
consistently applied.

We did *not* have the stuff because we thought it would keep the carpets
pristene, nor because we thought we'd ever be claiming on the warrantee.
The loops you have to jump through before even thinking about claiming
are incredible, but the style of carpet we wanted in the colour we
wanted was available with this stuff pre-applied at a price that was
within our budget, and with two small children and the front door
opening directly into a carpeted area (no porch), as they say, "every
little helps".

To be fair, the carpet has been extremely well-behaved in the (nearly)
12 months since it was installed. It is only the section by the front
door which is consistently dirty enough to need a bit of a scrub rather
than the Hoover but, so far, a bit of a scrub (according to the
manufacturer's strict instructions) has been sufficient to get it
looking pretty good again.

Regarding the Cloud 9, we had it (we were buying so much carpet the
company "upgraded" us for free) and it certainly feels much nicer
underfoot than normal underlay. Whether it is as hard-wearing as the
promises I'm not so sure, and it certainly seems not to recover from
point-loads (heavy furniture legs) quite as well as I remember the old
stuff doing.

Hwyl!

M.

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Jonathan wrote:

We're buying a new carpet and the salesman asked if we'd be wanting to
have it "stainguard" treated. We're getting a lightish blue 80/20 (new
wool & nylon) for the stairs and landing (with Cloud 9 7mm underlay).

Has anyone any stories to tell about stainproofing carpets?

Don't know specifically about after-market treatments, but it is also
possible to get carpets that come stain-protected from the factory; we
bought a whole house of the stuff. It seemed cheaper this way than
having the stuff applied by the fitters, and is probably better and more
consistently applied.

We did *not* have the stuff because we thought it would keep the carpets
pristene, nor because we thought we'd ever be claiming on the warrantee.
The loops you have to jump through before even thinking about claiming
are incredible, but the style of carpet we wanted in the colour we
wanted was available with this stuff pre-applied at a price that was
within our budget, and with two small children and the front door
opening directly into a carpeted area (no porch), as they say, "every
little helps".

To be fair, the carpet has been extremely well-behaved in the (nearly)
12 months since it was installed. It is only the section by the front
door which is consistently dirty enough to need a bit of a scrub rather
than the Hoover but, so far, a bit of a scrub (according to the
manufacturer's strict instructions) has been sufficient to get it
looking pretty good again.

Regarding the Cloud 9, we had it (we were buying so much carpet the
company "upgraded" us for free) and it certainly feels much nicer
underfoot than normal underlay. Whether it is as hard-wearing as the
promises I'm not so sure, and it certainly seems not to recover from
point-loads (heavy furniture legs) quite as well as I remember the old
stuff doing.

Hwyl!

M.

--
Martin Angove: http://www.tridwr.demon.co.uk/
Two free issues: http://www.livtech.co.uk/ Living With Technology
... I used to be indecisive. Now I'm not so sure.


Underlays come in many qualities, thicknesses and firmness.
A poor quality underlay under a good carpet is a waste of money - the old
maxim "An expensive carpet deserves a good underlay, but a cheap carpet
needs one" still hold true today.

The firmer the underlay the better the recovery, but it will not feel a nice
to walk on. "You pays yer money and makes yer choice".


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Hi Jonathan
Has anyone any stories to tell about stainproofing carpets?


As a carpet cleaner in a former life, yes it's well worth it. There are
however two types; silicone and fluorocarbon. Silicone is cheap but I
wouldn't recommend it at all. Go for fluorocarbon.

However, the carpet seller will view stain guard as a huge profit centre.
Get alternative quotes from carpet cleaning companies - they will quote a sq
ft price and compare. Even if you just use the quote to get a better deal
from the carpet supplier.

Dave



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