In article ,
"Woodspoiler" writes:
which will jam the machine. Only grease when it is most needed
and not
every time you use the machine.

I don't know if other SDS drills are different, but this one has
a wide screw cap on the top with a grease chamber above what
could be the hammer action mechanism. I only refill when empty,
but it empties quickly - say 2 hours of heavy use. ISTR the
instructions say to expect 5 hours. However, I'm using it for
chiselling all the time. It probably uses most grease in that
mode and less with a more normal mix of drilling and chiselling.

Do the more expensive SDS drills usually need regreasing, or are
any sealed for life? So far it's the one real bugbear in what has
otherwise been a satisfactory machine for the price.

My Metabo (AFAIR) doesn't have any means to regrease it.
I always apply a small smear of grease to the splines on the bits,
and clean it off when I take them out. I think this was suggested
in the instructions or by the shop for long life of the chuck.

--
Andrew Gabriel

In article ,
Christian McArdle wrote:
You are joking aren't you? I have heard of SDS drills that don't chisel
but never seen one, even in a shop.

They *used* to be the norm, but I'd think you'd have to try hard to find
one these days.

--
*I speak fluent patriarchy but it's not my mother tongue

Dave Plowman London SW 12
RIP Acorn

In article ,
Dave Plowman writes:
In article ,
Christian McArdle wrote:
You are joking aren't you? I have heard of SDS drills that don't chisel
but never seen one, even in a shop.

They *used* to be the norm, but I'd think you'd have to try hard to find
one these days.

I bought my SDS drill just before they entered the DIY market.
There were two cheaper ones available then (i.e. under £100),
possibly aimed at DIY use, which I did look at. One didn't have
rotary stop, and the other did have rotary stop but didn't lock
the chuck against rotation, and it would tend to move round whilst
you were using it. I didn't pursue them and don't remember the makes
now. With fully functional SDS drills now available sub-£50 for
DIY use, I can't imagine these products exist anymore.

--
Andrew Gabriel

"Christian McArdle" wrote in
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[Practically] All SDS machines have _hammer_ stop i.e. drill without
hammer, relatively few have roto stop i.e. hammer without drill.

You are joking aren't you? I have heard of SDS drills that don't
chisel but never seen one, even in a shop.

Christian.

No, right now I'm using Norman next door's Bosch UBH 2/20 SE to put pipe
through a wall, and it's the dog's. but it hasn't got a roto stop

Mike R

chris French wrote in message ...
In message , capnahab
writes
Is it worth paying the extra for the 'chiselling' action as well as
the rotary hammer action of SDS drills. ?. I havent got loads of
chasing to do but may want to eg lift floor tiles.
Nick

Yes, it's jolly useful.

I don't know about the cheap ones they sell these days but I wouldn't
bother with one that didn't have all these things plus a reverse.

They go in fast and can get stuck quick!

Is it just me or is it now common to have two SDS drills?

#1 A cheap 3 in 1 type, same machine but any brand, nearly always left on
chisel setting, which are great for breaking things into small pieces, but
weigh a ton, don't have a slip clutch, need greasing, have a too short
cable, smell funny after hard work, die within the guarantee enabling you
get a full refund then buy a replacement.

#2 A brand name quality piece for drilling now you have all those lovely
bits, a long cable, good case, comfortable grip, slip clutch for those
'moments', no need for grease chambers, usable up a ladder without arms like
Popeye etc.

I never realised how great the diffference would be until the shed thought
it would be a good plan to price the £120 DeWalt at £49 until they rapidly
sold out, wonder why?

Toby.

"Mike Ring" wrote in message
52.50...
"Christian McArdle" wrote in
. net:

[Practically] All SDS machines have _hammer_ stop i.e. drill without
hammer, relatively few have roto stop i.e. hammer without drill.

You are joking aren't you? I have heard of SDS drills that don't
chisel but never seen one, even in a shop.

Christian.

No, right now I'm using Norman next door's Bosch UBH 2/20 SE to put pipe
through a wall, and it's the dog's. but it hasn't got a roto stop

Mike R

and that particular drill and the others like it.. DeWalt 563.. no roto
stop.. Makita 2400 etc... what they do have versus any of the cheap ****e
is a safety clutch....

Now when you say go buy one from Argos then try and drill a big hole in one
go.. don't say you weren't warned when it nearly breaks your wrist...
(speaks from experience)

IanJH

Dewalt 566, Makita HR3000C and an old cheapy ****e used for chiselling only