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[email protected] May 22nd 05 11:09 PM

Garden Lighting
 
We have some mini garden lighting. It consists of 4 lights. Each light
runs off 12 volts and is rated at either 20 or 30 watts.

We would like to change the colour of the lights. We have tried using
filters fitted around the bulbs but these just don't seem to work.

Is there any paint that is designed for use at high temperatures? We
were thinking of spraying the bulbs or the glass surroud that goes
over the bulbs.

I realise that the paint might insultate some of the heat and reduce
the life of the bulbs but this is something that we can live with.

Any suggestions for a type of paint that is designed to work with
higher temperatures?

Thanks,
Graham



Rick May 22nd 05 11:29 PM

On Sun, 22 May 2005 22:09:05 GMT, wrote:

We have some mini garden lighting. It consists of 4 lights. Each light
runs off 12 volts and is rated at either 20 or 30 watts.

We would like to change the colour of the lights. We have tried using
filters fitted around the bulbs but these just don't seem to work.

Is there any paint that is designed for use at high temperatures? We
were thinking of spraying the bulbs or the glass surroud that goes
over the bulbs.

I realise that the paint might insultate some of the heat and reduce
the life of the bulbs but this is something that we can live with.

Any suggestions for a type of paint that is designed to work with
higher temperatures?

Thanks,
Graham


Have you tried proper profesional photographic colour filters ?
Some are plastic, some are glass.

Im my first job we used to stick these on everything ........

Rick


Andrew Gabriel May 22nd 05 11:45 PM

In article ,
writes:
We have some mini garden lighting. It consists of 4 lights. Each light
runs off 12 volts and is rated at either 20 or 30 watts.

We would like to change the colour of the lights. We have tried using
filters fitted around the bulbs but these just don't seem to work.


If they are MR16's, they are available in coloured versions.

Is there any paint that is designed for use at high temperatures? We
were thinking of spraying the bulbs or the glass surroud that goes
over the bulbs.


I don't think this would work with bare halogen capsules, if that's
what you're using. They run at around 350C.

I realise that the paint might insultate some of the heat and reduce
the life of the bulbs but this is something that we can live with.

Any suggestions for a type of paint that is designed to work with
higher temperatures?


Ideal question for a theatre lighting group such as
rec.arts.theatre.stagecraft who will be familiar with
the current state of the art of high temperature filters.

--
Andrew Gabriel

[email protected] May 23rd 05 12:17 AM

wrote:
We have some mini garden lighting. It consists of 4 lights. Each

light
runs off 12 volts and is rated at either 20 or 30 watts.

We would like to change the colour of the lights. We have tried using
filters fitted around the bulbs but these just don't seem to work.

Is there any paint that is designed for use at high temperatures? We
were thinking of spraying the bulbs or the glass surroud that goes
over the bulbs.

I realise that the paint might insultate some of the heat and reduce
the life of the bulbs but this is something that we can live with.

Any suggestions for a type of paint that is designed to work with
higher temperatures?

Thanks,
Graham


Bulb painting can be done with the paints from stained glass kits, also
yellow headlamp paint. CFLs are low temp enough to be painted with
anything seethrough.

But if youve got bare halogen capsules, forget painting them, or
putting anything close, they run at very high temps.

Theater gels are also available, but are steeply priced considering the
other options.

NT


[email protected] May 23rd 05 12:19 AM

wrote:
We have some mini garden lighting. It consists of 4 lights. Each

light
runs off 12 volts and is rated at either 20 or 30 watts.

We would like to change the colour of the lights. We have tried using
filters fitted around the bulbs but these just don't seem to work.

Is there any paint that is designed for use at high temperatures? We
were thinking of spraying the bulbs or the glass surroud that goes
over the bulbs.

I realise that the paint might insultate some of the heat and reduce
the life of the bulbs but this is something that we can live with.

Any suggestions for a type of paint that is designed to work with
higher temperatures?

Thanks,
Graham


Bulb painting can be done with the paints from stained glass kits, also
yellow headlamp paint. CFLs are low temp enough to be painted with
anything seethrough.

But if youve got bare halogen capsules, forget painting them, or
putting anything close, they run at very high temps.

Theater gels are also available, but are steeply priced considering the
other options.

NT

Forgot to mention, some other no cost filters:
red flexible plastic trays that cakelets come in, eg kiplings etc
green plastic 2l bottles, use 2 or 3 layers.
bottles of other colors
sweet wrappers for tiny lights

But none of thee are fireproof, so must be fixed with due caution.

NT


Tim Mitchell May 23rd 05 10:07 AM

In article , Andrew Gabriel
writes
In article ,
writes:
We have some mini garden lighting. It consists of 4 lights. Each light
runs off 12 volts and is rated at either 20 or 30 watts.

We would like to change the colour of the lights. We have tried using
filters fitted around the bulbs but these just don't seem to work.


If they are MR16's, they are available in coloured versions.

Is there any paint that is designed for use at high temperatures? We
were thinking of spraying the bulbs or the glass surroud that goes
over the bulbs.


I don't think this would work with bare halogen capsules, if that's
what you're using. They run at around 350C.

I realise that the paint might insultate some of the heat and reduce
the life of the bulbs but this is something that we can live with.

Any suggestions for a type of paint that is designed to work with
higher temperatures?


Ideal question for a theatre lighting group such as
rec.arts.theatre.stagecraft who will be familiar with
the current state of the art of high temperature filters.

As a resident of rec.arts.theatre.stagecraft I can tell you that the
best way would be to buy coloured MR16 lamps. Maplin sell them, amongst
others.

Theatre colour filter would work, but even the latest high temp stuff
fades over time and needs replacing. The coloured lamps use dichroic
filter which lasts for ever. If you want to pursue the theatre colour
filter idea, your local disco shop will probably sell you some.
--
Tim Mitchell

[email protected] May 23rd 05 07:34 PM

On Sun, 22 May 2005 22:29:52 GMT, Rick wrote:


Have you tried proper profesional photographic colour filters ?
Some are plastic, some are glass.


Tried it.

It doesn't seem to give a very good effect.

Graham



[email protected] May 23rd 05 07:35 PM

On 22 May 2005 22:45:34 GMT, (Andrew
Gabriel) wrote:

In article ,
writes:
We have some mini garden lighting. It consists of 4 lights. Each light
runs off 12 volts and is rated at either 20 or 30 watts.

We would like to change the colour of the lights. We have tried using
filters fitted around the bulbs but these just don't seem to work.


If they are MR16's, they are available in coloured versions.


In fact they are 10 watts.

I managed to find a company that does the clear bulbs. However, I
can't see anyone doing them in colours.

http://www.bulbdirect.com/catalog.as...showprevnext=1


Graham



dennis@home May 23rd 05 07:49 PM


wrote in message
...
We have some mini garden lighting. It consists of 4 lights. Each light
runs off 12 volts and is rated at either 20 or 30 watts.

We would like to change the colour of the lights. We have tried using
filters fitted around the bulbs but these just don't seem to work.


Can you use these?

http://www.ultraleds.co.uk/default.p...b2 1b04579c55



[email protected] May 23rd 05 07:55 PM

On Mon, 23 May 2005 18:49:09 GMT, "dennis@home"
wrote:


wrote in message
.. .
We have some mini garden lighting. It consists of 4 lights. Each light
runs off 12 volts and is rated at either 20 or 30 watts.

We would like to change the colour of the lights. We have tried using
filters fitted around the bulbs but these just don't seem to work.


Can you use these?

http://www.ultraleds.co.uk/default.p...b2 1b04579c55


I have emailed them.

Thanks,
Graham



[email protected] May 27th 05 11:42 PM

On 22 May 2005 16:17:33 -0700, wrote:


Theater gels are also available, but are steeply priced considering the
other options.


We originally tried using a "sky blue" blue coloured gel. We wrapped
the gel closely around the bulb but found that it gave a poor result.

We have tried again, but this time we have put the gel up against the
inside of the garden lights holder / shield and it looks really good.

The garden lights had a black plastic cap. We have found that we can
increase the quality of the lighting by putting a thin strip of silver
foil in the cap to reflect the light back down.

It looks really good. The whole garden is covered in "sky blue" light.

I found a company that produces a whole range of gels. £5 per roll +
£5 for delivery. The roll is large and could do a substantial number
of lights.

http://www.sabre-international.com/f.../cpti.231/rp.1

Graham




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