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Lobster April 18th 05 07:33 PM

Fitting new first-floor window
 
I've got to fit a new upstairs window soon, which I'm just trying to get
my head round.

I was hoping to support the brickwork (cavity wall) above using
strongboy + acro prop; however, the centre of the window (where the
strongboy needs to go) is over a stairwell, so the acro prop would need
to stand on a stair, about 10 feet below. (see ASCII art below -
however the window is further to the right than shown, and the bulkhead
at a shallower angle, so the centre of the window will in fact be over
the angled bulkhead). That doesn't sound strong enough to me? Or on the
ground outside, which is even further down?

There are only 2-3 brick courses above the window before the wall plate
upon which the ceiling joists/roof rafters sit (perpendicular to the
wall). Would I be able to just remove the bricks above altogether -
would the wallplate take the load OK? New window will be 650mm from
corner of house, and about 900mm wide.

Thanks
David

| |bulkhead tba
| ________ |
| | new | |
| | window | |
| |________| /
| /
| /
|____________/
| raised floor over
| stairwell
| _________1st floor_______
| __|
| __|
| __|
| __|
| __|
| __|
|_| Ground floor



[email protected] April 19th 05 06:11 AM


Lobster wrote:
I've got to fit a new upstairs window soon, which I'm just trying to

get
my head round.

I was hoping to support the brickwork (cavity wall) above using
strongboy + acro prop; however, the centre of the window (where the
strongboy needs to go) is over a stairwell, so the acro prop would

need
to stand on a stair, about 10 feet below. (see ASCII art below -
however the window is further to the right than shown, and the

bulkhead
at a shallower angle, so the centre of the window will in fact be

over
the angled bulkhead). That doesn't sound strong enough to me? Or on

the
ground outside, which is even further down?

There are only 2-3 brick courses above the window before the wall

plate
upon which the ceiling joists/roof rafters sit (perpendicular to the
wall). Would I be able to just remove the bricks above altogether -
would the wallplate take the load OK? New window will be 650mm from
corner of house, and about 900mm wide.

is this a new window or a replacement? if a replacement the lintel
should support the wall above, if its a new window or there is no
lintle fitted one way of supporting the bricks is to cut away the
mortar from the course above and insert a length of steel angle iron
across the opening with a 6'' overlap at each side.


Lobster April 19th 05 05:23 PM

wrote:
Lobster wrote:

I've got to fit a new upstairs window soon, which I'm just trying
to get my head round.


snip

There are only 2-3 brick courses above the window before the wall
plate upon which the ceiling joists/roof rafters sit (perpendicular
to the wall). Would I be able to just remove the bricks above
altogether - would the wallplate take the load OK? New window will
be 650mm from corner of house, and about 900mm wide.


is this a new window or a replacement?


A new one.
if a replacement the lintel
should support the wall above, if its a new window or there is no
lintle fitted one way of supporting the bricks is to cut away the
mortar from the course above and insert a length of steel angle iron
across the opening with a 6'' overlap at each side.


Now *that* sounds a hell of an idea, especially as I am simultaneously
facing the task of fitting a load of replacement windows which I know
don't have lintels already :-(

Some of my existing windows are as much as 2.3m wide (that's a
downstairs one). Would this angle iron trick work there too, while I
fit lintels, do we think? What grade/strength/thickness of angle iron
can you get? Logic rather tells me this would be indadequate in the
case of a downstairs 2.3m span, but then again, the timber window is
holding it all up OK at the moment! We're only talking outer leaves
too; the inner leaves (which presumably support the joists etc) already
have lintels.

David


[email protected] April 20th 05 07:20 AM

The suggestion to use angle iron was only intended for the 900mm
opening on an upstairs window, anything much larger and the brickwork
will have to be supported using needles,props etc. How old is your
house, as it was built with cavities it's suprising there are no
lintles on the outer leaf, are the windows showing signs of bowing?
personally i would get professional help installing a lintel for a 2.3m
opening.
i used 2" x 1/4" angle iron which did the trick , i also wedged it in
at both ends to prevent it falling out.



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