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Scott July 26th 04 11:28 AM

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Hi
Not sure if this is appropriate for this group but its as close as I could
find.
I have had an electricity bill that I think is to high. On switching
everything off on the consumer unit, the disk on the meter continues to
spin.
The meter has 6 numerical vertical counters and underneath a disk that spins
horizontally.
It is the disk that continues to spin. It takes 13 minutes and 33 seconds to
do a complete revolution.
Is this correct?
Next to the meter (on the exit side) is a switch. This looks like where the
electric enters the house. When I switch this off the disk continues to spin
at the same rate.
I have spoken to the supplier who has told me to take meter readings every
day then they will do a meter accuracy test. what does this involve.

Regards
Scott



wanderer July 26th 04 11:49 AM

Electricity Meter
 
On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 11:28:24 +0100, Scott wrote:

Hi
Not sure if this is appropriate for this group but its as close as I could
find.
I have had an electricity bill that I think is to high. On switching
everything off on the consumer unit, the disk on the meter continues to
spin.
The meter has 6 numerical vertical counters and underneath a disk that spins
horizontally.
It is the disk that continues to spin. It takes 13 minutes and 33 seconds to
do a complete revolution.
Is this correct?


No. No load and the disk should stop. Are you sure everything is
switched off? I understand your comments about the switch - it's not
unknown for circuits to be tacked on wrongly, although in fairness, some
meters can take perhaps as many as 80 to 160 revolutions of the disk to
register 1kwh, so your 13 minutes seems like a very small load - more
like one of the check magnets inside the meter is wrongly set.

Next to the meter (on the exit side) is a switch. This looks like where the
electric enters the house. When I switch this off the disk continues to spin
at the same rate.
I have spoken to the supplier who has told me to take meter readings every
day then they will do a meter accuracy test. what does this involve.


'Phone them again and tell them you want someone to come and check the
meter ASAP. Don't let them fob you off with a delay.

The check they will (used to) do is to connect a known load to the meter
and check how long it takes to complete a set number of revolutions.

Set Square July 26th 04 08:36 PM

Electricity Meter
 
In an earlier contribution to this
,
Scott wrote:
Hi
Not sure if this is appropriate for this group but its as close as I
could find.
I have had an electricity bill that I think is to high. On switching
everything off on the consumer unit, the disk on the meter continues
to spin.
The meter has 6 numerical vertical counters and underneath a disk
that spins horizontally.
It is the disk that continues to spin. It takes 13 minutes and 33
seconds to do a complete revolution.
Is this correct?
Next to the meter (on the exit side) is a switch. This looks like
where the electric enters the house. When I switch this off the disk
continues to spin at the same rate.
I have spoken to the supplier who has told me to take meter readings
every day then they will do a meter accuracy test. what does this
involve.

Regards
Scott


With everything switched off, the disc shouldn't move at all - so there
seems to be something (albeit very small) still being used. If your meter is
like mine, the disc will rotate 250 times per kW.Hr (unit). At the spin rate
you quote, you are consuming power at the rate of about 17 watts - and will
use a unit every 56 hours or so, or about 38 units (probably about 3 quid)
per quarter.

Is there *anything* which could still be running with everything switched
off - like a time clock for off-peak power, for example?

There is usually a charge for testing a meter. If it is found to be faulty,
the supplier pays. If it is found to be ok, and *you* requested the test,
*you* pay.
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Colin Wilson July 26th 04 08:41 PM

Electricity Meter
 
"creep" is a known problem - as the other poster says, get them round
there to sort the damn thing out.

See if you can tell from the rating plate on the meter how many
revolutions per kwh, and see if you can work out how much its been
registering above what it should.

You`ll probably find its not that much overall, but still annoying :-}

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troubleinstore July 26th 04 09:04 PM

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"Set Square" wrote in message
...
In an earlier contribution to this
,
Scott wrote:
Hi
Not sure if this is appropriate for this group but its as close as I
could find.
I have had an electricity bill that I think is to high. On switching
everything off on the consumer unit, the disk on the meter continues
to spin.
The meter has 6 numerical vertical counters and underneath a disk
that spins horizontally.
It is the disk that continues to spin. It takes 13 minutes and 33
seconds to do a complete revolution.
Is this correct?
Next to the meter (on the exit side) is a switch. This looks like
where the electric enters the house. When I switch this off the disk
continues to spin at the same rate.
I have spoken to the supplier who has told me to take meter readings
every day then they will do a meter accuracy test. what does this
involve.

Regards
Scott


With everything switched off, the disc shouldn't move at all - so there
seems to be something (albeit very small) still being used. If your meter

is
like mine, the disc will rotate 250 times per kW.Hr (unit). At the spin

rate
you quote, you are consuming power at the rate of about 17 watts - and

will
use a unit every 56 hours or so, or about 38 units (probably about 3 quid)
per quarter.

Is there *anything* which could still be running with everything switched
off - like a time clock for off-peak power, for example?

There is usually a charge for testing a meter. If it is found to be

faulty,
the supplier pays. If it is found to be ok, and *you* requested the test,
*you* pay.
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Cheers,
Set Square


I requested a meter check and all was ok in the end. The electricity company
didn't charge me.
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[email protected] July 26th 04 11:44 PM

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In misc.industry.utilities.electric troubleinstore wrote:

| I requested a meter check and all was ok in the end. The electricity company
| didn't charge me.

Some states require electric companies to give one free meter check if
requested every N years.

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Dave Liquorice July 31st 04 10:13 PM

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On 26 Jul 2004 22:44:26 GMT, wrote:

Some states require electric companies to give one free meter check
if requested every N years.


This side of the pond electricity meters are routinely replaced every
ten years.

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G&M July 31st 04 11:23 PM

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"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message
ll.com...
On 26 Jul 2004 22:44:26 GMT, wrote:

Some states require electric companies to give one free meter check
if requested every N years.


This side of the pond electricity meters are routinely replaced every
ten years.


Which side of the pond is this ?

Until recently we had two and one looked to be about fifty years old at
least.



Charlie Perrin August 1st 04 12:32 AM

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On Sat, 31 Jul 2004 23:23:37 +0100, G&M wrote:

"Dave Liquorice" wrote:


On 26 Jul 2004 22:44:26 GMT, wrote:


Some states require electric companies to give one free meter check
if requested every N years.


This side of the pond electricity meters are routinely replaced every
ten years.


Which side of the pond is this ?


It looks like the UK.

Until recently we had two and one looked to be about fifty years old at
least.


IIRC, meters usually register slower and slower as they age.


wanderer August 1st 04 07:25 AM

Electricity Meter
 
On Sat, 31 Jul 2004 22:13:51 +0100 (BST), Dave Liquorice wrote:

On 26 Jul 2004 22:44:26 GMT, wrote:

Some states require electric companies to give one free meter check
if requested every N years.


This side of the pond electricity meters are routinely replaced every
ten years.


Err, unless things have changed recently, it rather depends on the type
of meter, some are a 10 year certification, others are a 20 year
certification.
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Andrew Gabriel August 1st 04 10:26 AM

Electricity Meter
 
In article om,
"Dave Liquorice" writes:
On 26 Jul 2004 22:44:26 GMT, wrote:

Some states require electric companies to give one free meter check
if requested every N years.


This side of the pond electricity meters are routinely replaced every
ten years.


Not that I've ever come across. Mine's 20 years old, and my parents'
is 40 years old.

When I was working on a meter project some time back, meters were
supplied against tenders which required a low failure rate in the
first 40 years.

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Colin Wilson August 1st 04 02:11 PM

Electricity Meter
 
Some states require electric companies to give one free meter check
if requested every N years.

This side of the pond electricity meters are routinely replaced every
ten years.


As someone else mentioned, the period between meter changes is variable
depending on the type of meter and tariff.

Not that I've ever come across. Mine's 20 years old, and my parents'
is 40 years old.


That may be perfectly correct, but they will probably have been
recertified in the interim (at least the 40 yr old one)

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Dave Liquorice August 1st 04 05:29 PM

Electricity Meter
 
On 1 Aug 2004 09:26:38 GMT, Andrew Gabriel wrote:

This side of the pond electricity meters are routinely replaced
every ten years.


Not that I've ever come across. Mine's 20 years old, and my parents'
is 40 years old.


Had two meters at different locations (and RECs) replaced after ten
years. Both letters sent to make the appointment for the swap
definately implied that it is a routine ten year replacement.

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wanderer August 4th 04 06:55 PM

Electricity Meter
 
On Wed, 4 Aug 2004 12:50:38 -0500, Michael Stemper wrote:

snip

What does "REC" stand for in the UK?


Regional Electricity Company - in essence the outfits that own the
cables and wires. They *may* not be the supplier of energy to a
property. A supplier of energy pays a percentage to the RECs for using
their wires to supply energy to a property.

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