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I managed to miss tonights program with "the boys" (was watching Top
Gear instead and did not notice is was on until too late!). Hence was wondering what their suggestions were going to be for things to do to devalue your property. SWMBO and I guessed that stone cladding and avacado bathroom suites would be there somewhere in the list, but what else did they have to say? -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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"John Rumm" wrote
I managed to miss tonights program with "the boys" (was watching Top Gear instead and did not notice is was on until too late!). Hence was wondering what their suggestions were going to be for things to do to devalue your property. SWMBO and I guessed that stone cladding and avacado bathroom suites would be there somewhere in the list, but what else did they have to say? See http://www.five.tv/home/frameset/?content=6542036 Go to the programme, then click "20 ways". Barbara |
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List, in order, I'm sure you can guess which way up !
Not dealing with structural disasters Bad extensions Smoking (including smells and dirt) Swimming Pools Bad taste exteriors Artex UPVC (especially in period properties) Animals Bad DIY Avocado bathroom suites Nightmare neighbours Bad layout Pine Gigantic sofas, oversized furniture and clutter Overgrown gardens Fake features Dizzy decor Cheap laminate flooring Themed rooms Carpet in the bathroom |
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"Simon" wrote in message om... List, in order, I'm sure you can guess which way up ! Not dealing with structural disasters Bad extensions Smoking (including smells and dirt) Swimming Pools Bad taste exteriors Artex On walls? On ceilings? UPVC (especially in period properties) Animals Bad DIY Avocado bathroom suites Nightmare neighbours Bad layout Pine Gigantic sofas, oversized furniture and clutter Overgrown gardens Fake features Dizzy decor Cheap laminate flooring What exactly is cheap? There are some expensive photo laminate floors about that look good. Themed rooms Carpet in the bathroom |
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writes List, in order, I'm sure you can guess which way up ! Not dealing with structural disasters Bad extensions Smoking (including smells and dirt) Swimming Pools Bad taste exteriors Artex UPVC (especially in period properties) Animals Bad DIY Avocado bathroom suites Nightmare neighbours Bad layout Pine Gigantic sofas, oversized furniture and clutter Overgrown gardens Fake features Dizzy decor Cheap laminate flooring Themed rooms Carpet in the bathroom Don't forget: Wearing too much makeup Dying your hair from mouse to fair highlights Shouting at the camera Showing waaaay too much flesh Liberal sprinkling of camp innuendo etc . . . . . . Oh sorry that's a list from how to succeed in low budget television, their next series . . . . -- fred |
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"Andy Hall" wrote in message ... On 26 Jul 2004 09:44:25 GMT, (Huge) wrote: (Simon) writes: List, in order, I'm sure you can guess which way up ! [14 lines snipped] Gigantic sofas, oversized furniture and clutter Bizarre, given that the old owners will take all this away with them. They are confusing marketing the property with things that really would reduce value. Having said that, having too much/too large furniture in a smallish room makes it look smaller. It's a question of whether buyers can see past that or not. Most can't as the property progs clearly indicate. |
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On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 10:36:17 +0100, "IMM" wrote:
Cheap laminate flooring What exactly is cheap? There are some expensive photo laminate floors about that look good. Read "any". ..andy To email, substitute .nospam with .gl |
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Andy Hall wrote:
- old chestnuts like animals which may or may not offend the punter So what are you suppsoed to do, shoot them? (Not saying which) If you're selling an 'equestrian property' surely it would tend to come with horses. -- Chris Green |
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In article , Huge wrote:
Gigantic sofas, oversized furniture and clutter Bizarre, given that the old owners will take all this away with them. A trick used by housebuilders is to furnish a house with small furniture to make the house look bigger. -- Tony Bryer SDA UK 'Software to build on' http://www.sda.co.uk Free SEDBUK boiler database browser http://www.sda.co.uk/qsedbuk.htm |
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"Simon" wrote in message om... List, in order, I'm sure you can guess which way up ! snippage Cool! So my 'woodchip throughout' is ok then! |
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Andy Hall wrote:
Having said that, having too much/too large furniture in a smallish room makes it look smaller. It's a question of whether buyers can see past that or not. given the "vision" of many people - probably not ;-( -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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I am dubious as to how many of the minor ones really affect property value, though. Turn off if there are choices of other properties, perhaps..... As you said in another post - much of this is to do with marketing the property rather than actaully altering its value as such. Having said that, as was demonstrated in the million pound property experiment, they were able to make quite dramtic changes to the sale prices of the places simply by "dressing" the property to sell. In reality the only reall value issues they list seem to be:- Hard / costly to fix: * Not dealing with structural disasters * Bad extensions * Bad layout Impossible to fix (by acceptable means!) * Nightmare neighbours Potentially expensive to fix depending on level: * UPVC (especially in period properties) * Bad DIY * Pine * Bad taste exteriors You could include the bathroom suite in there since the colour may be an indication of it being old enough to want replacing anyway. The rest seems to be floor / decore / furnishing issues which are easy enough to resolve. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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See http://www.five.tv/home/frameset/?content=6542036 Go to the programme, then click "20 ways". Barbara Could not see much from the link above. More on this one http://money.guardian.co.uk/housepri...266300,00.html I am very surprised to see laminate flooring is at no. 18! |
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I saw most of it and couldn't work out where they got their 'devalue'
figures from. Supposedly a badly placed downstair toilet can devalue your house by 6k! Maybe Carol Vorderman should join them. |
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John Rumm wrote:
I managed to miss tonights program with "the boys" (was watching Top Gear instead and did not notice is was on until too late!). Hence was wondering what their suggestions were going to be for things to do to devalue your property. SWMBO and I guessed that stone cladding and avacado bathroom suites would be there somewhere in the list, but what else did they have to say? What a load of ******** this programme was, all you need is a bit of common sense not two prancing puffs spouting crap. Before anybody gets all PC on me I have a prancing puff for a brother so I know what I am talking about. Yes having certain things will stop you being able to ask full whack for your house but not by the ridiculous amounts they were talking about. John |
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See http://www.five.tv/home/frameset/?content=6542036 Go to the programme, then click "20 ways". Barbara Could not see much from the link above. More on this one http://money.guardian.co.uk/housepri...266300,00.html I am very surprised to see laminate flooring is at no. 18! Thanks. Yes, me too: really the only surprise in that list. Given that I'm planning refurbishment, and likely to sell in couple of years, it's worth knowing. But I wonder just how much that particular item depends on the target market? I can see it still being attractive to many young professionals. Barbara |
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wrote in message ... See http://www.five.tv/home/frameset/?content=6542036 Go to the programme, then click "20 ways". Barbara Ohmygawd - it's THEM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How on earth have this pair of incompetants conned another TV station to allow them to ponce around throwing wobblies at the slightest problem ? |
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"Huge" wrote in message ... (Carpets in bathrooms are another. I was also suprised to see that the Guardian list had laminate floors as a no-no. Well if you can't have carpet in the bathroom, and can't have wood, what are you supposed to have if you don't like cold tiles and regard vinyl as a modern version of lino. |
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"John Smith" wrote in message ... . Before anybody gets all PC on me I have a prancing puff for a brother so I know what I am talking about. Not as prancing as this pair I hope. The quiet one is ok but Justin brings out the Texan I didn't know was in me. |
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John Rumm wrote: What a load of ******** this programme was, all you need is a bit of Yes having certain things will stop you being able to ask full whack for your house but not by the ridiculous amounts they were talking about. Yes I agree, having experienced some of these issues and had professional valuations that returned a fraction of the price adjustments they mentioned. But its TV... the more they talk **** the more attention they get. Its how tv works. If they quoted a more realistic 20% of those figures we wouldnt be talking about it so much. The one that continues to surprise me is pine. Pine furniture continuse to be considered preferred goods, plenty of people are quite keen on pine. And of course some arent. Some may not like it, but many certainly do. Well I scored 5/20... but the estate agent thought 2 of those increased value, and I agree. Regards, NT |
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On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 20:37:20 +0100, "G&M" wrote:
"Huge" wrote in message ... (Carpets in bathrooms are another. I was also suprised to see that the Guardian list had laminate floors as a no-no. Well if you can't have carpet in the bathroom, and can't have wood, what are you supposed to have if you don't like cold tiles and regard vinyl as a modern version of lino. Laminate floors != wood. Why not real wood in a bathroom - it'd look very nice if suitably finished to protect it. Chuck a couple of nice rugs down to walk on in your bare feet and bob's your uncle. -- Success is just a matter of luck. Ask any failure. Mail john rather than nospam... |
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The REAL bottom line is.
Leaving out stone cladding swimming pools (I'm sure that 99% of viewers were discussing that for hours after the prog ended) Such properties that have many of the other 18 'features' are often 10-15% below market price. All of these problems can be erased for the outlay of a few hundred. I would be tempted to target these properties to buy a place for 10-20% less than its worth. Arthur "Simon" wrote in message om... List, in order, I'm sure you can guess which way up ! Not dealing with structural disasters Bad extensions Smoking (including smells and dirt) Swimming Pools Bad taste exteriors Artex UPVC (especially in period properties) Animals Bad DIY Avocado bathroom suites Nightmare neighbours Bad layout Pine Gigantic sofas, oversized furniture and clutter Overgrown gardens Fake features Dizzy decor Cheap laminate flooring Themed rooms Carpet in the bathroom |
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On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 20:37:20 +0100, "G&M"
wrote: "Huge" wrote in message ... (Carpets in bathrooms are another. I was also suprised to see that the Guardian list had laminate floors as a no-no. Well if you can't have carpet in the bathroom, and can't have wood, what are you supposed to have if you don't like cold tiles and regard vinyl as a modern version of lino. Stone or ceramic tiles? These can easily be warmed. ..andy To email, substitute .nospam with .gl |
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"Andy Hall" wrote in message ... On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 20:37:20 +0100, "G&M" wrote: "Huge" wrote in message ... (Carpets in bathrooms are another. I was also suprised to see that the Guardian list had laminate floors as a no-no. Well if you can't have carpet in the bathroom, and can't have wood, what are you supposed to have if you don't like cold tiles and regard vinyl as a modern version of lino. Stone or ceramic tiles? These can easily be warmed. Can't stand them ! Reminds me of school showers. We have a fitted carpet which we replace every now and then but why people find this such a no-no is beyond me. And in any case when you are buying a house, furniture is removed so shouldn't affect the price, and carpets can be. Really can't see why one has to fit what you think others *might* like just to get a sale. |
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"N. Thornton" wrote in message m... John Smith wrote in message ... John Rumm wrote: What a load of ******** this programme was, all you need is a bit of Yes having certain things will stop you being able to ask full whack for your house but not by the ridiculous amounts they were talking about. Yes I agree, having experienced some of these issues and had professional valuations that returned a fraction of the price adjustments they mentioned. But its TV... the more they talk **** the more attention they get. Its how tv works. If they quoted a more realistic 20% of those figures we wouldnt be talking about it so much. The one that continues to surprise me is pine. Pine furniture continuse to be considered preferred goods, plenty of people are quite keen on pine. And of course some arent. Some may not like it, but many certainly do. Well I scored 5/20... but the estate agent thought 2 of those increased value, and I agree. Regards, NT Pine?!!? I think poofs are into stainless steel, this year. And I don't think that stone cladding is due to be camp for another 3 years or so, ducky :) Arthur. |
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On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 13:56:57 +0100, Andy Hall
wrote: OTOH, (and I guess this is what the program people meant), if you walk into a house and it smells of cat pee because the owners haven't trained the cat, that's a turn off and there may be a cost implication of addressing it. Even worse might be if you viewed a house and it smelled of pee, and they don't have a cat..... ;) Andrew --- http://www.ukdiy.org.uk |
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"Arthur" wrote in message ... The REAL bottom line is. Leaving out stone cladding Stone cladding on a detached house can look really god and give kerb appeal. Having it on a semi or terraced is the pits. List, in order, I'm sure you can guess which way up ! Not dealing with structural disasters Bad extensions Smoking (including smells and dirt) Swimming Pools Bad taste exteriors Artex UPVC (especially in period properties) Animals Bad DIY Avocado bathroom suites Nightmare neighbours Bad layout Pine Gigantic sofas, oversized furniture and clutter Overgrown gardens Fake features Dizzy decor Cheap laminate flooring Themed rooms Carpet in the bathroom |
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On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 21:53:37 +0100, "G&M"
wrote: "Andy Hall" wrote in message .. . On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 20:37:20 +0100, "G&M" wrote: "Huge" wrote in message ... (Carpets in bathrooms are another. I was also suprised to see that the Guardian list had laminate floors as a no-no. Well if you can't have carpet in the bathroom, and can't have wood, what are you supposed to have if you don't like cold tiles and regard vinyl as a modern version of lino. Stone or ceramic tiles? These can easily be warmed. Can't stand them ! Reminds me of school showers. Depends on what you choose. We have a fitted carpet which we replace every now and then but why people find this such a no-no is beyond me. Carpet in an environment that is going to range from damp to wet is not good. Curiously, the UK seems to be about the only country in Europe that does it. And in any case when you are buying a house, furniture is removed so shouldn't affect the price, and carpets can be. Really can't see why one has to fit what you think others *might* like just to get a sale. That's certainly true.... ..andy To email, substitute .nospam with .gl |
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On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 12:34:54 +0100, "IMM" wrote:
"Andy Hall" wrote in message .. . On 26 Jul 2004 09:44:25 GMT, (Huge) wrote: (Simon) writes: List, in order, I'm sure you can guess which way up ! [14 lines snipped] Gigantic sofas, oversized furniture and clutter Bizarre, given that the old owners will take all this away with them. They are confusing marketing the property with things that really would reduce value. Having said that, having too much/too large furniture in a smallish room makes it look smaller. It's a question of whether buyers can see past that or not. Most can't as the property progs clearly indicate. I'm not sure that I would take the abilities of people on TV, either as presenters or as audience as indicative of the populace as a whole. Having said that, on the very rare occasion when I visit a town centre (any town centre) on a Saturday, I am reminded that it probably is. ..andy To email, substitute .nospam with .gl |
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John Rumm wrote in news:410507cf$0$31511
: Potentially expensive to fix depending on level: * UPVC (especially in period properties) My in-laws recently rejected a house from consideration for "not having UPVC soffit boards". I know, I know, but what can you say ? Victoria |
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Victoria Clare wrote:
My in-laws recently rejected a house from consideration for "not having UPVC soffit boards". I know, I know, but what can you say ? I think uPVC facias / soffits seem to be one of those things that for some are a real turn off, and others a "must have" feature. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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writes "John Rumm" wrote I managed to miss tonights program with "the boys" (was watching Top Gear instead and did not notice is was on until too late!). Hence was wondering what their suggestions were going to be for things to do to devalue your property. SWMBO and I guessed that stone cladding and avacado bathroom suites would be there somewhere in the list, but what else did they have to say? See http://www.five.tv/home/frameset/?content=6542036 Go to the programme, then click "20 ways". "Property Experts" ???? Lucky I wasn't drinking coffee at the time, the monitor survives another day How did these two ever get on the TV ? No don't answer that -- geoff |
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In message , Huge
writes John Rumm writes: I managed to miss tonights program with "the boys" (was watching Top Gear instead and did not notice is was on until too late!). AOL Hence was wondering what their suggestions were going to be for things to do to devalue your property. SWMBO and I guessed that stone cladding and avacado bathroom suites would be there somewhere in the list, but what else did they have to say? Yes, did anyone watch it? (Carpets in bathrooms are another. I was also suprised to see that the Guardian list had laminate floors as a no-no. Quite suprising, given their popularity. We hate them ...) No mention of hot and cold taps the wrong way around then ? -- geoff |
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Smith writes John Rumm wrote: I managed to miss tonights program with "the boys" (was watching Top Gear instead and did not notice is was on until too late!). Hence was wondering what their suggestions were going to be for things to do to devalue your property. SWMBO and I guessed that stone cladding and avacado bathroom suites would be there somewhere in the list, but what else did they have to say? What a load of ******** this programme was, all you need is a bit of common sense not two prancing puffs spouting crap. Before anybody gets all PC on me I have a prancing puff for a brother so I know what I am talking about. Yes having certain things will stop you being able to ask full whack for your house but not by the ridiculous amounts they were talking about. But it doesn't make such good TV does it? -- geoff |
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